wow beautyful horses.

Some beautiful horses. I'm really surprised at all the different colours these days, I'm sure back in the day there was; black, grey, bay,chestnut, dun, strawberry/blue roan and pie/skewbald! Really interesting thread!
I've bought a young horse which I'm calling bay roan - black legs, mane, black tail with white hairs on the dock, grey flecks through brown coat. Is bay roan the correct term?
 
Evie91 said:
Some beautiful horses. I'm really surprised at all the different colours these days, I'm sure back in the day there was; black, grey, bay,chestnut, dun, strawberry/blue roan and pie/skewbald! Really interesting thread!
I've bought a young horse which I'm calling bay roan - black legs, mane, black tail with white hairs on the dock, grey flecks through brown coat. Is bay roan the correct term?
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Possibly, but he could also be bay sabino as sabino causes white flecking through the coat sometimes. Roans tend to have darker heads than their bodies. Does your horse?
 
She does have a dark head, with a small snip, tiny star and small white bit across the bridge of her nose, no flecks on her face though. Her mane is black, her neck and shoulders brown with no white, but flecks of white across her body and most noticeable across her hindquarters - she seems to have developed more flecks this year. From a distance you wouldn't notice, one of the children on the yard thought she was going grey because is she old!! She's only five!!
 
Indy said:
He is just absolutely gorgeous DM. There is another russian horse called the Tersk which has a silvery metallic sheen to it. I saw a picture of one (and the Akhal Teke) in the Enyclopedia of the Horse. My mum bought it for me for christmas - it must have been 1978/79, so most likely not photoshopped. Has anybody still got that book, it was hard back with a black horse gallopng on a beach?
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I'm quite sure i have that book too Indy, & remember the photo of that horse you refer to (although wasn't it Tersky?).

Wagtail ... so often roan & sabino seem to get confused ... darker colour on the head as you say, is a really good indicator. You often also find belly splashes & jagged white leg markings on sabinos.

Evie91 she does sound like she may be a roan - do you have any pics?
 
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ycbm said:
Spring Arising, I think you need to go and do some research into what living with Aspergers is like.

Can you even begin to imagine what it's like to be told to 'go and take a long walk off a short pier' and have to process in your brain whether that is a serious suggestion and you need to find a pier to walk off?

Or the sheer effort, every minute of every interaction with any other person, of having to decide whether comments like 'does my bum look big in this?' should be answered honestly, and stopping yourself from telling the truth even though the truth is all you are programmed for?

Lighten up yourself, Ester is a lesson for all of us in how to relate to people with Apergers. Learn from her.
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We all live with some sort of disability and get regular bullying or nasty comments on here and in life, or live and help friends with a disability.
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If you want to post a link of lovely horse colours why would you not pick one that was at least vaguely accurate? Surely most horse lovers know that a statement such as 'dapple grey is rare' is fairly worrying!
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Is telling me I should not post it unless I can prove it accurate photo's, the grey marbling seemed different to the average dapples and I should know I have a dapple grey. Then it was suggested I did not read it............... big assumption.

Life is never 100% accurate all the time, and many believe what they see or read, and these people should not be shot down for believing or not knowing what the truth is.

Do you know what it is like being there for someone who is losing their sight and is 21 only having tunnel vision and only seeing about 2 meters in front of them, now having lost some of their colours like reds and try to explain what colour it is knowing that at any time their sight will go and does on occasion when the livery says my sight has gone ( for some time scale) 10 minutes or so???

Having to point out things when they miss poo and give them directions in a field as to where their horse is while they are walking?? It’s tough sometimes life and if we cannot always reply in a friendly manner, don't reply.

To tell me i should not post it as the pictures were chopped and it is worrying how someone thinks a grey is not unatural in a manner that suggest they are thick or stupid and putting a? at the end does not necessarily take about the alterior thoughts behind the coment or make it a question, or take away the fact that the post or link should not be posted unless you have the link police check it and permit it to be posted as accurate.
 
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Evie91 said:
She does have a dark head, with a small snip, tiny star and small white bit across the bridge of her nose, no flecks on her face though. Her mane is black, her neck and shoulders brown with no white, but flecks of white across her body and most noticeable across her hindquarters - she seems to have developed more flecks this year. From a distance you wouldn't notice, one of the children on the yard thought she was going grey because is she old!! She's only five!!
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She does sound bay roan then because sabino flecks the face just as much as the body, where as roan doesn't. Sounds lovely.
 
Is telling me I should not post it unless I can prove it accurate
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Actually what it's telling you is that someone with aspergers has a desperate, really desperate, need for things to be true. If you aren't going to put Ester on UI as she has asked you to, then please try to read her comments bearing that in mind, or you will keep on and on arguing with her.

It doesn't mean you shouldn't post. It means it would be easier of you ignore hers if they annoy you.
 
OK you colour freaks. Have I got a sabino chestnut mini then?

Her white hairs are evenly spaced throughout her coat and can't be seen from distance.


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ycbm said:
Actually what it's telling you is that someone with aspergers has a desperate, really desperate, need for things to be true. If you aren't going to put Ester on UI as she has asked you to, then please try to read her comments bearing that in mind, or you will keep on and on arguing with her.

It doesn't mean you shouldn't post. It means it would be easier of you ignore hers if they annoy you.
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As I said Ester is on UI and has been since her last nasty coment to me, the fact I already explained that I saw her coment in a quote from someone else does explain how I saw her post. The quote of hers from above was in a message to you not her
 
Kambarbay, AT stallion one of the most stunning horses around, a product of their environment.

would love mare for breeding
 
ycbm said:
OK you colour freaks. Have I got a sabino chestnut mini then?

Her white hairs are evenly spaced throughout her coat and can't be seen from distance.


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Looks like you have two sabino chestnuts, ycbm (if you are referring to the solid coated one having white flecking). The coloured looks like a sabino chestnut with flaxen.
 
Wagtail said:
Looks like you have two sabino chestnuts, ycbm (if you are referring to the solid coated one having white flecking). The coloured looks like a sabino chestnut with flaxen.
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Its not as simple as just being sabino, theres lots of other genes that can cause it. The chestnut is unlikely to be sabino as it has no other white markings. Not sure its rabicino either as it doesnt look like the top of the tail is white. But it doesnt always have to be. So there could be another gene involved that causes the white ticking on this one.

Are there any white hairs in or around the top of the tail?
 
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T we aren't going to agree, I find your continued hostility even when the situation has been carefully spelled out to you quite distressing so again please use the UI button if you cannot be civil. I have never and will never use the sort of language you have about me on this forum.
If you want to post a link of lovely horse colours why would you not pick one that was at least vaguely accurate? Surely most horse lovers know that a statement such as 'dapple grey is rare' is fairly worrying!
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Is telling me I should not post it unless I can prove it accurate photo's, the grey marbling seemed different to the average dapples and I should know I have a dapple grey. Then it was suggested I did not read it............... big assumption.
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So that others are not left with the wrong impression the above wasn't telling your or anyone else anything! It ended with a questionmark, it was not rhetorical, it was a question, if it was intended in a sarcastic manner I am fairly liberal with smilies to imply intent. There are none in that post. If I was making a statement, or telling someone what to do I would not add a question mark. If you didn't have me on UI generally you would perhaps know that I am careful with the words I use and that 'pedantic with language' is a fairly well documented description of my situation.

I am sorry I assumed wrong that you hadn't read it, I clearly interpreted this comment wrong if that is the case
his link was sent to me with the link on FB there fore don't see things or care if photochopped as I have more important things in life than to spend every minute on computer, sussing it out
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We all live with some sort of disability and get regular bullying or nasty comments on here and in life, or live and help friends with a disability.
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This is all very well but I am not aware of anyone on here being the subject of bullying or nasty comments which pertain to their disability. Whereas you seem to think it is ok to use mine against me? :(
 
wagtail, I suspect sooty is a possibility with him but if so minimally expressed.
ycbm your chestnut probably just has white ticking, it s fairly common in chestnuts.
any better pics of the coloured?
 
Thanks Ester for the clarification on the "silver dapple pinto" :) Colours and genetics etc are still somewhat of a mystery to me lol.
Can I also say that, without meaning to sound patronising in any way, I read your posts always with interest and until this post I hadn't twigged you have Aspergers and Im pretty well aquainted with the Autism spectrum!! You present yourself incredibly clearly x
 
special interest ;), though probably only because it links with what I do for work a bit too. Nowhere near as special as hooves! :D, I do genuinely get quite excited when someone sends me hoof pics. I blame ycbm for that one really. Was a why child that wanted to know how stuff worked, now a why adult. Was most distressed when someone elsewhere suggested limiting their why child's questions during the day :eek3:, I pointed out it was at least easier to find the answers these days not get the encyclopaedia brittanica out!

I meant to say whether you remember the little mini on here stinkbomb's inky? he was silver + black too. It's quite common in minis, very common in haflingers incidentally but it has no effect on red based coats so you don't see it. This thread has pics of him clipped an in full coat, and also demonstrates why I will not give equi a definitive answer on her currently clipped mini!
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ycbm I am still waiting for a mini pic :p I wouldn't like to say from that one that she's not silver bay instead of chestnut

If anyone is generally interested I would suggest the white horse productions page for the basics, equine tapestry for the more complicated stuff (written but a proper expert!) and for a good page on the specifics of duns grullablue.com is excellent with it's descriptions.

White markings are always an interesting one, those that would be considered under the general term 'sabino' do not carry the testable form of that gene (this includes the type that appears in clydes/traditional cobs) but they do keep finding new white mutations all the time and introduce new arguments about terminology. I particularly find interesting those that colour shift, both LP (spotties) and sabino where as well as adding the markings they make the base hair colour lighten to.

I have now waffled extensively!
 
ester said:
White markings are always an interesting one, those that would be considered under the general term 'sabino' do not carry the testable form of that gene (this includes the type that appears in clydes/traditional cobs) but they do keep finding new white mutations all the time and introduce new arguments about terminology. I particularly find interesting those that colour shift, both LP (spotties) and sabino where as well as adding the markings they make the base hair colour lighten to.

I have now waffled extensively!
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Right, I'm going to attempt to post a piccie of my micro mare on a new thread and you can suggest what colour you think she may end up :D
 
Sorry Ester, I think you wanted another of Doodle, my little coloured? She's almost identical in color to my big QH, only he has a lot of white hair in his red patches and it's getting more each year.

I don't have any decent pictures but the top of her tail is white and the rest pale chestnut. Her mane isn't white, just very blond.
 
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