WoW saddle. Can someone translate for me please.

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Sunjunkieme

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Hi, I’ve just purchased a 15hh Connemara. He is proving to be a fabulous chap. He‘s not your standard flat backed native, more athletic type. Has some topline to develop and will fill out, living as we do on the South Downs.

Im going to buy a myself a wow saddle. I’ve seen one advertised that looks ideal and done my research on the wow site (I have a good local fitter) but I’m still a bit confused. Can any of you experts please translate?

17" deep seat. SD panels. No. 2 Headplate currently fitted. SDWG with tab, size 1. Flaps VSDF. Curved leather tree.

thank you!
 

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Your boy looks lovely.

17”/size 1 panels means it is smaller size saddle, suitable for a rider upto size 12-14.
The seats and flaps are dressage, but I think not the extreme dressage - very deep seat and giant block type. The SD means the flaps are standard length ( i had a WOW for a 13 2 pony and the flaps were -1”).
I have never really understood the panel specs: tab/ no tab, stichline/no stichline and what the differences are.
Headplate may be too narrow for a Connie but your fitter will let you know and you can buy secondhand head plates for about £20
I had similar seat, panels and flap and while they are dressage biased I found them fine for general riding. You may not find ideal if you want to do a lot of jumping.
Hope that helps
 
CMcC said:
Your boy looks lovely.

17”/size 1 panels means it is smaller size saddle, suitable for a rider upto size 12-14.
The seats and flaps are dressage, but I think not the extreme dressage - very deep seat and giant block type. The SD means the flaps are standard length ( i had a WOW for a 13 2 pony and the flaps were -1”).
I have never really understood the panel specs: tab/ no tab, stichline/no stichline and what the differences are.
Headplate may be too narrow for a Connie but your fitter will let you know and you can buy secondhand head plates for about £20
I had similar seat, panels and flap and while they are dressage biased I found them fine for general riding. You may not find ideal if you want to do a lot of jumping.
Hope that helps
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Such a help and validated what I understood. Thanks. ?
 
SDWG panel is a slightly less common panel. It is thinner than the most commonly used panel, the DWG, which has a deeper and more versatile air bag, but sits you a bit further off the horse. WG is for wide gullet. The tab is at the top of the panel in the pommel, it leaves more room for the wither and is a much more popular option than a panel without a tab.

Deep seat is not hugely deep but it's not the best choice if you also want to jump, when a shallow or a flat (which isn't flat!) is often a better option because there is more scope to slide back a bit, especially on the flat one.

Flaps are VSD fixed block, they have a big knee block on them. They are not as straight as dressage, but not as forward cut as GP, but you can alter the angle to make them more one way or the other.

Curved tree is the most curved they do, there are 3. It fits most horses.

Leather tree is the second version. It's a lot lighter than the first version, which was resin, but it is still heavy and a lot heavier than the current version, which is plastic. Your leather one is at least four years old, they have been making them in plastic for four years at least.

Size 1 seat and panel are 17 inch. If the panel is too long you can use size 0 on a size 1 seat, but they are rare and difficult to find second hand.

Hope that helps.



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Some horses can feel the airbag overlap, and some are even marked by it if they are very sensitive. For that reason, I never use my WOW saddles (I have three in regular use) without a wool/ sheepskin or padded saddle cloth.


Smart boy!

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ycbm said:
SDWG panel is a slightly less common panel. It is thinner than the most commonly used panel, the DWG, which has a deeper and more versatile air bag, but sits you a bit further off the horse. WG is for wide gullet. The tab is at the top of the panel in the pommel, it leaves more room for the wither and is a much more popular option that a panel without a tab.

Deep seat is not hugely deep but its not the best choice of you also want to jump, when a shallow or a flat (which isn't flat!) is often a better option because there is more scope to slide back a bit, especially on the flat one.

Flaps are VSD fixed block, they have a big knee block on them. They are not as straight as dressage, but not as forward cut as GP, but you can alter the angle to make them more one way or the other.

Curved tree is the most curved they do, there are 3. It fits most horses.

Leather tree is the second version. It's a lot lighter than the first version, which was resin, but it is still heavy and a lot heavier than the current version, which is plastic. Your leather one is at least four years old, they have been making them in plastic for four years at least.

Size 1 seat and panel are 17 inch. If the panel is too long you can use size 0 on a size 1 seat, but they are rare and difficult to find second hand.

Hope that helps.



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Thank you that is so helpful! Really very much appreciated. Helen
 
ycbm said:
Some horses can feel the airbag overlap, and some are even marked by it if they are very sensitive. For that reason, I never use my WOW saddles (I have three in regular use) without a wool/ sheepskin or padded saddle cloth.


Smart boy!

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Great advice, thank you. I’ve only had him a week, he hasn’t put a hoof wrong, looks, brains and manners, I must have done something right in a previous life! ☺️
 
Can’t beat a dun Connie
 

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ycbm said:
SDWG panel is a slightly less common panel. It is thinner than the most commonly used panel, the DWG, which has a deeper and more versatile air bag, but sits you a bit further off the horse. WG is for wide gullet. The tab is at the top of the panel in the pommel, it leaves more room for the wither and is a much more popular option that a panel without a tab.

Deep seat is not hugely deep but its not the best choice of you also want to jump, when a shallow or a flat (which isn't flat!) is often a better option because there is more scope to slide back a bit, especially on the flat one.

Flaps are VSD fixed block, they have a big knee block on them. They are not as straight as dressage, but not as forward cut as GP, but you can alter the angle to make them more one way or the other.

Curved tree is the most curved they do, there are 3. It fits most horses.

Leather tree is the second version. It's a lot lighter than the first version, which was resin, but it is still heavy and a lot heavier than the current version, which is plastic. Your leather one is at least four years old, they have been making them in plastic for four years at least.

Size 1 seat and panel are 17 inch. If the panel is too long you can use size 0 on a size 1 seat, but they are rare and difficult to find second hand.

Hope that helps.



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Huge help. Thank you!
 
Have you had your fitter out to measure him for what would suit? I think it's unlikely that a curved tree with SD panels would fit a connie TBH even a sporty type but difficult to say without trying.

You are more likely to need a flat or semi curved tree then the SD panels might work depending on how much muscle there is around the wither and mid-back

Tabbed panels are generally for horses with well developed thoracic trapezius muscles otherwise the saddle can move around.

There are so many different variations from wow that it's worth trying several options and then buying what you need. This particular saddle may end up with only the flaps being suitable
 
Wheels said:
Have you had your fitter out to measure him for what would suit? I think it's unlikely that a curved tree with SD panels would fit a connie TBH even a sporty type but difficult to say without trying.

You are more likely to need a flat or semi curved tree then the SD panels might work depending on how much muscle there is around the wither and mid-back

Tabbed panels are generally for horses with well developed thoracic trapezius muscles otherwise the saddle can move around.

There are so many different variations from wow that it's worth trying several options and then buying what you need. This particular saddle may end up with only the flaps being suitable
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Thank you. I’m buying 2nd hand, so starting with imperfect and will work up to what I need. Accept I’m unlikely to find perfect for him.
 
Sunjunkieme said:
Thank you. I’m buying 2nd hand, so starting with imperfect and will work up to what I need. Accept I’m unlikely to find perfect for him.
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I understand that but you can ask the fitter to come out and measure up what you need so that you can source the parts 2nd hand. Most fitters will do that for a fee and when I did my training with wow they said that was quite common although I only ever fitted new or ex demo as that's what most people wanted
 
Sunjunkieme said:
Question. I’m 5’5” with a 30” inside leg. 26” leathers?
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Depends how long you ride. I wear m&s and sainsbury long jeans and use 32 for dressage and 28 to hack. I won't pay for WOW leathers though, I bought Heather Moffat ones last time. Not as good but less than half the price.

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