Wow what an unusual cross....

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Nice!

Found her photo here egretflats.com and they call the cross Shirabs. Who knew?!!! Learn a new thing every day, I do :D
 
He does have a lovely sweet face.

The grey cross you've found and posted a picture of is a nice stamp of a horse, seems both breeds cross very nicely from what you can see from the grey, hmmm interesting stuff.
 
Suziq77 said:
LOL - you know how warmblood breeding developed.........
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My favourite comment when my friend says derogatory things about my Clydesdale mare!

Sire might have been the Shire! He's lovely, Shire/Arab cross is not that unusual, though Clyde/Arab is more common.

This is my TB x Clyde as a yearling, she has this beautiful TB head and in winter grows hairy legs and a beard like her darling mum (Avatar)
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She's beautiful - bet she looks like a different horse in the winter as you say! The grey is gorgeous too. Very glad no one thought my comment was rude (it wasn't meant to be!)
 
i worked at a stud and a lady rang saying her large horse (cant remember breed) had been scanned in foal but that she had been running with a 2 yr old section A stallion!! he must have caught her lying down haha.... never got to see the final result but it must have been interesting
 
My OH always joked that we wanted an ArabxArdennes for something pretty but also very safe and comfy for him to learn on! Was surprised to see the ad...
 
 
I have a Shire x Hackney. His Sire was a 15hh Hackney and Dam was a Shire.
He's 17.1hh and nearly 5 :)


That grey has a very pretty face.
 
He is beautiful, I knew of a shire x arab mare called honey, she was ace, story goes that on a dark and stormy night the shire (the sire) broke out of his field and into the neighbours fields where the dam was, honey was at a trekking centre when I rode her and was the apple of my school friends eye, who purchased her when the centre closed, after many years of fun, she then went on to produce a lovely foal herself and stayed with my friend until she was PTS.
 
Tickles said:
My OH always joked that we wanted an ArabxArdennes for something pretty but also very safe and comfy for him to learn on! Was surprised to see the ad...
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He doesn't need to, the Ardennes (Trait Ardennais) has a massive dose of Arab. They added it to make them smaller. Can't you see it in Fany's face? The ears, the nostrils and eyes, she even has a slight dish to her face. It is all just on a much larger scale :eek::D She also has very active paces like an Arab.

ETA- a friend of mine used to have an Ardennes x Shetland, absolutely no idea how but it wasn't AI. Apparently it looked like a miniature Ardennes!

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Both the Grey - who is stunning - and my filly are based on the old tradition of breeding 'Blood over Bone', you then tend to get a quality horse with more substance and the strength coming from the dam. I once knew a breeder in the South Island who had his own TB stallion and three lovely Clydesdale mares - he had a waiting list for the foals - sold in utero!

Bone over blood can produce a nice cross but tends to go to the heavier side. Serenity's first foal was sired by a warmblood and is far heavier in type than his sister - because the genes in his sires pool also had the 'heavier' type from an ancestor and this has come through he is also a lovely horse but not so much quality.

I now only send Serenity to a TB as I want to produce the athletic cross that is really a first cross warmblood. Fantasia is the chestnut filly and is already 16.2 at 2½yrs old her sire was Westminster a UK bred TB sadly now dead. This year Serenity will go to Istidad who has many of his TB progeny competing succesfully in all disciplines. It's quite hard to find a TB stallion for a non-TB mare as there is no Hunter Improvement Society to encourage the owners to offer their stallions to outside mares.

This is the foal by the warmblood at 2yrs old - he has matured a lot heavier now - been slack with the camera over the past year or so!
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and my Clydesdale mare - neither handler is me!
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Fany Du Champ said:
He doesn't need to, the Ardennes (Trait Ardennais) has a massive dose of Arab. They added it to make them smaller. Can't you see it in Fany's face? The ears, the nostrils and eyes, she even has a slight dish to her face. It is all just on a much larger scale :eek::D She also has very active paces like an Arab.

ETA- a friend of mine used to have an Ardennes x Shetland, absolutely no idea how but it wasn't AI. Apparently it looked like a miniature Ardennes!

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LOL! I know of a shire x Dartie locally and I saw our old shire mare, stooping her back end down desperate to be serviced by my dartmoor stallion (approx 11.2!!!!) I might add that this was in no way my attempt at irresponsible breeding ;) he was a youngster that I kept seperate who's balls had just dropped and god knows how the hell he managed it but he jumped a 3ft 9 fence to get to her! Despite her being a tart in the extreme nothing came of it... thank god!
 
seems like there are a few draft arab crosses kicking around especially in the US seen a few on youtube
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percheron x arab i think weren't dartmoor cross something bigger popular once for hunting?
 
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I know several New Forest x Shire crosses (shire sire). They all looked a little 'odd' as youngsters, pony bodies with Shire heads but have matured beautifully. Plenty of bone, sensible looking heads and very hardy. I've been told they are very comfortable to ride too. I'll ask permission from a friend to post a piccy of her lad.
 
Lots of breeds have arab blood from centuries ago! Once the world discovered the Arab horse, practically anything useful was crossed with it...

It's definitely a good thing and I love the crosses..
 
tallyho! said:
Lots of breeds have arab blood from centuries ago! Once the world discovered the Arab horse, practically anything useful was crossed with it...

It's definitely a good thing and I love the crosses..
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Think that because there has been so much hype about warmbloods over the past few years people have forgotten that at one time just about every horse bar the pure Arab, TB and some natives were crosses between Arabs or TB's. There was the era when 'Anglo Arab' was the in horse to have and they were often seriously beautiful horses.
UK has been breeding warmbloods for centuries under the name 'Hunter' of various weights. With origins from the working horses covered by Arabs or TB's.

Does make me laugh the number of people who say they hate Arabs yet it is more than likely that their horse has Arab blood in it.
 
Ah but technically speakng the tb is an arab x originally. It was crossed with two foundation arab sires the Darley, Bryerley Turk and errrrmmmm Godolphin? I've forgotten. Its a purebreed now, as the genetics have been preserved so they are a breed in it's own right. It was crossed with Irish and other european mares. Along the lines they brought in winning barbs and turkish racing horses to improve lines.

So, strictly speaking - tbs are quite a lot arab/turk/barb!
 
tallyho! said:
Ah but technically speakng the tb is an arab x originally. It was crossed with two foundation arab sires the Darley, Bryerley Turk and errrrmmmm Godolphin? I've forgotten. Its a purebreed now, as the genetics have been preserved so they are a breed in it's own right. It was crossed with Irish and other european mares. Along the lines they brought in winning barbs and turkish racing horses to improve lines.

So, strictly speaking - tbs are quite a lot arab!
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Yes - remembered that after I'd posted! :D In fact I wonder how many breeds there are that don't have arab in them - very few I would think. Somewhere I read that there had been Arab in the Exmoor or Dartmoor - breeds that I had previously been led to believe were very pure and unique to their location.
 
Evelyn said:
Yes - remembered that after I'd posted! :D In fact I wonder how many breeds there are that don't have arab in them - very few I would think. Somewhere I read that there had been Arab in the Exmoor or Dartmoor - breeds that I had previously been led to believe were very pure and unique to their location.
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Tis true!!! A few arab stallions were left to run wild with the moorland ponies including the welsh mountain ponies in the 16th century to improve breeds for war....

Nothing quite like an arab eh.... :D:D:D:D
 
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