WTF?? Video on you tube

Watch the long version - before the horse freaks. It does four minutes of perfect work with her moving the plastic about and wearing it like a cloak. It is to teach the horse about flag carrying in parades/rides I think.
 
Oh my god - that had me
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Lovely horse though!!

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Just what I thought
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I wouldn't be able to ride it if it acted like that though, I'd be on the floor numerous times
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wat a fu****g idiot shame she didnt come off nd hurt herself as that would have taught the silly bitch a leson!!!!

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Abit harsh I think... although its not something you see often because its done in training at home how else do you think they train horses to be desensitised to things for jobs such as the police, parades, flag carrying, drum horses..., do you think these horses just magically learn to do these things, it takes alot of time, patience and practise, I didn't see them beating the horse or being cruel, which would have been unacceptable, infact when the horse stopped broncing, she was very calm and not cross at all.

Personally I think wishing someone to fall off and hurt themselves is not a very nice at all!!
 
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wat a fu****g idiot shame she didnt come off nd hurt herself as that would have taught the silly bitch a leson!!!!

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Harsh words. She's obvisously working on de-sensitising the horse. As said, the rider sat calm and quiet, no shouting or aggression.
 
De-sensitising is one thing. Scaring the [****] out of the horse is another. That horse was TERRIFIED and he calmed down very quickly once he realised the danger thing was gone. That is not the way to do it, somebody (horse or rider) is going to get hurt.
 
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De-sensitising is one thing. Scaring the [****] out of the horse is another. That horse was TERRIFIED and he calmed down very quickly once he realised the danger thing was gone. That is not the way to do it, somebody (horse or rider) is going to get hurt.

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De-sensitising is all about stopping the horse from being scared. As said elsewhere on this thread, how do you think the police and other such organizations get their horses used to the scary stuff?
 
I wish I could stay on that well.
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I think I'd have taken a bit of a 1-rein stop, would have probably made things a bit easier. Maybe dropped the plastic sooner too...
I can see what she was trying to do, my thought is that maybe she could have done more work on the ground first. I'm 99% sure she hasn't got this sorted on the ground, or the horse wouldn't have got so upset. On the ground makes the experience easier on the horse, because you can approach and retreat.
 
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De-sensitising is one thing. Scaring the [****] out of the horse is another. That horse was TERRIFIED and he calmed down very quickly once he realised the danger thing was gone. That is not the way to do it, somebody (horse or rider) is going to get hurt.

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De-sensitising is all about stopping the horse from being scared. As said elsewhere on this thread, how do you think the police and other such organizations get their horses used to the scary stuff?

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Gradually!! Forcing a horse into a situation it is scared of won't de-sensitise it.
 
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De-sensitising is one thing. Scaring the [****] out of the horse is another. That horse was TERRIFIED and he calmed down very quickly once he realised the danger thing was gone. That is not the way to do it, somebody (horse or rider) is going to get hurt.

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De-sensitising is all about stopping the horse from being scared. As said elsewhere on this thread, how do you think the police and other such organizations get their horses used to the scary stuff?

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Gradually!! Forcing a horse into a situation it is scared of won't de-sensitise it.

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Did you watch the longer version, taken BEFORE the horse threw a fit? It worked nicely for a fair while, and she did start gradually. I suspect they did start on the ground or the horse would not have looked so comfortable in the longer video.

The rider was very good I thought, very calm throughout and sat extremely well, I cannot imagine someone with her obvious experience did not do things properly.
 
Yes, I watched the fulll video, which was irrelevant as it didn't show the lead up to the horse freaking out, it showed the horse accepting the plastic - which could have been weeks later for all we know. In which case the plan had worked, but not in a way I would condone, and I would never subject any of my young horses to that sort of 'lesson'.

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De-sensitising is one thing. Scaring the [****] out of the horse is another. That horse was TERRIFIED and he calmed down very quickly once he realised the danger thing was gone. That is not the way to do it, somebody (horse or rider) is going to get hurt.

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De-sensitising is all about stopping the horse from being scared. As said elsewhere on this thread, how do you think the police and other such organizations get their horses used to the scary stuff?

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Gradually!! Forcing a horse into a situation it is scared of won't de-sensitise it.

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Did you watch the longer version, taken BEFORE the horse threw a fit? It worked nicely for a fair while, and she did start gradually. I suspect they did start on the ground or the horse would not have looked so comfortable in the longer video.

The rider was very good I thought, very calm throughout and sat extremely well, I cannot imagine someone with her obvious experience did not do things properly.

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Yes, I watched the fulll video, which was irrelevant as it didn't show the lead up to the horse freaking out, it showed the horse accepting the plastic - which could have been weeks later for all we know. In which case the plan had worked, but not in a way I would condone, and I would never subject any of my young horses to that sort of 'lesson'.



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No you are wrong - the longer video shows the horse BEFORE it freaked out, interestingly there is another video of the same horse, with a different riders sans plastic, freaking out again and this time dumping the rider. Also you do not know that this is a young horse, at no time does it state it is a youngster.
 
I have been lucky enough to visit Imber Court where they train the Met Police horses on a few occassions and can say that I saw nothing in the video that raised any concerns for the welfare of this horse, I watched the longer version where he was working happily with the plastic for several minutes before freaking out and certainly nothing in the video that should warrant wishing the rider harm or cause concern. I guess its more alarming to people that haven't seen police horses etc in training and people probably don't realise what training goes on with police horses, parade horses, drum horses and even film horses to get them to the stage where they can do their job. Most places have regular assessments of the animals and how they are coping and if they are deems as not suitable to continue to the next stages of training, they don't and are re-homed to a more suitable job, but I can assure anyone that horses that work on films or for the police don't complete their training without a few hiccups and freak outs on the way, they are after all a flight animal and you are teaching them not to be!
 
I actually think she looks an excellent horsewoman, She seemed a very sympathetic rider and sat calmly and quietly while the horse did his utmost to unseat her, I would of been on the ground straight away
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, I think it's hard to make a judgement on what we see in a short video as we don't know the back ground to this horse but still think she did incredible well to stay on.......wish I could half as well
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