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So, I made a mistake. I rushed into buying a pony and he's not suitable at all for either of the jobs he was bought for.

So, the pony came from a riding school that offered little to no turnout and that only had very inexperienced riders and helpers, it was a difficult environment and anything but the most stoic of horses would struggle, he hadn't settled and so they were selling him, I thought that with turnout and 1-2-1 handling he would come good, I spoke to an old owner (not the one that had sold him to the RS) who gave him a glowing review, I did some FB stalking and couldn't find anything bad, I found pictures and clips of him being a good children's pony. I was told he was happy with mares and geldings...

When bought him.... he initially seemed fine with my mare, then I noticed his willy. A lot. They he started chasing and mounting her, both of them were getting scrapes and she came into a MASSIVE season, this was not normal for her. So I separated them and called the vet, bloods were ran and it was found that he was NOT a rig but we started him off on Regumate which seemed to help with his stallion like behaviour, I slowly introduced them back together and they were fine together for 6 weeks and then my mare came into a massive season again (unusual for her) and they started fighting again, the pony was better than before but still interested in my mare (but the amount of piss flying around I'd defy any gelding not to want to sniff), I separated them as I was worried about injury, he had chunks out of his neck and my mare ended up with a puffy leg.

I was contacted by someone who used to be on a yard with him who said that he had mounted her mare so much he had made her sore and once at a show he had sent everything mad calling his head off.

When I ride my mare he calls and isn't settled in the field, even if there are other horses in the next field. I can't bring him onto the yard without her, I couldn't even tie her out of sight to hose her off the other day. I haven't let me son ride him either as whilst he may be fine for a more balanced older child, my son isn't going to be that for many years and I need him to walk calmly out on his own for my son to be able to ride.

So essentially I have a pony that isn't suitable for us ridden wise for many years, he isn't suitable to be turned out with my mare (I cannot risk her being hurt, she's priceless to me) but can't be turned out without her. One option would be to buy two more companions, a mare and a gelding but I can't see that one flying with the husband to be honest. I could sell the pony but a 11hh 16 year old project that cannot be turned out with mares and that I cannot vouch for first hand about being ridden isn't the best of sellers to be honest. I could put my mare on Regumate as well but that's not cheap having two horses on daily medication.

There could be a good home for him out there, there is more likely, a bad home for him out there. I'm really seriously thinking about having him put to sleep. I think it's the only way I can guarantee his future and whilst I do like the pony, I've had him three months and I can't justify paying for him to be on retirement livery potentially for another 15 years!

What would you do in my situation?
 
There are a few horses who can't be turned out with the opposite sex - I would put word out at pony clubs for anyone who's willing to take on a bit of a project.
 
Could you find somewhere that has only geldings, and turn him out with them for a bit and see what happens? Might at least give you a chance to see what he's like under saddle once he is a bit more settled, and might make a (careful) sale possible.

Can the vet suggest anything else?
 
You could spend time trying to find him a suitable project home. Ideally on loan - as you say it is more likely that there are bad homes out there for him and at worst case a child will get hurt. We had a couple like this in our PC days - DD is a very light and very accomplished rider so we took on projects like this. But she's 19 now and in uni. But you might find someone in your local PC who will re-school. (You might have to pay them). You will probably find he isn't suitable for mixed company and never will be. Some are not.

PTS is the ultimate responsibility. As you say he is not an easy sell. He will take time and effort on your part (not to suggest you are not wiling to give that!). You can't really pass him off to a charity to retire - they have enough welfare cases. And a bad pony is just as expensive to keep (and sometimes more so) than a good pony.

I would be thinking the same in your place - although you will get criticism for it. If it were me - I'd see if there is a local PC kid who might take him on a project basis. But if not - I'm afraid I would.
 
some horses cant be turned out with the opposite sex ever I have a gelding that can be difficult with mares or mixed herds, can you not try him in a different turn out set up and see if he settles?
 
I think I'd send to livery with single sex TO and see how he settled. You could have a different, much more saleable pony on your hands (or even useful to you). Worth a punt before PTS.
 
I don't have a different turn out set up to put him into unfortunately and sending him away still leaves me without a companion, we could put my mare on Regumate as well but there are no guarantees that would work and it still leaves me paying a lot of money for a pony I can't put my children on or that I would trust with them for quite a few years, so maybe essentially it does come down to me not wanting to throw more money at the situation, which makes me feel even more guilty.
 
I’d give it a fixed time to find him a loan home, say two months, as a second pony and then think seriously about pts. It may sound harsh but you don’t really owe him anything.
 
I just don’t understand would buy a horse of the different sex to the one they have and just expect them to live together .
It’s way to soon to have him off the regumate the idiot gelding we owned was on it all one summer and through the next winter and then the next summer I then stopped in the next winter and he was ok through that winter and into that summer .
He was never ever turned out with mares again .
 
I just don’t understand would buy a horse of the different sex to the one they have and just expect them to live together .
It’s way to soon to have him off the regumate the idiot gelding we owned was on it all one summer and through the next winter and then the next summer I then stopped in the next winter and he was ok through that winter and into that summer .
He was never ever turned out with mares again .

He is still on the regumate, I haven't stopped it.

Unfortunately I have never had an issue with my mare being out with geldings nor my former gelding being out with mares, nor had I encountered issues with mares and geldings in the preceding years AND a former owner (not the place I got him from but had owned him for 6 years) told me specifically that he was happy out with mares and geldings, so you know, I bought a gelding to go out with my mare, not a mistake I will be making again.
 
Would any of his previous owners before the riding school consider taking him back if they knew he was on the verge of being pts?
 
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An 11hh pony who has proved to be a good childs pony in the past would normally be hens teeth. It's the sort we need. If you're honest with an advert stating rig like behaviour, geldings only I'm sure a suitable home will happen. I'd go down the route of an advert.
 
He just sounds anxious. Being passed from pillar to post can do that to animal. Whilst I don’t think pts is the worst option for any horse I do think it needs to be last case scenario.
 
I have considered that but then I feel a bit like I'm threatening them, take the pony on or he gets it :-/

I think if I had owned him I would like to know before it was too late (if you got to that point) plus knowing the pony they may have more luck having him back selling him from an environment he has previously been more settled in and able to do the job. Obviously gifting him back you'd be loosing the money but you'd also be further out of pocket if you were to pts.
 
I think if I had owned him I would like to know before it was too late (if you got to that point) plus knowing the pony they may have more luck having him back selling him from an environment he has previously been more settled in and able to do the job. Obviously gifting him back you'd be loosing the money but you'd also be further out of pocket if you were to pts.

I agree with this, they may not be able to take him back but it would do no harm to offer, he probably really struggled in the RS and has just lost the plot now, going back to where he was happy could give him a chance, they can only say no.
 
Obviously gifting him back you'd be loosing the money but you'd also be further out of pocket if you were to pts.

To be honest losing purchase/sale price isn't important. I've spoken to the old owner and she is going to see if she can have an extra one at her yard and if so I'm going to give him back to her, she has geldings and is happy for him to live out his days with her. Fingers crossed and breathe held...

I agree that he is anxious and the riding school negatively effected him but I sort of assumed that turnout and 121 handling was what he needed and to a degree it has helped but I wasn't expecting the mare/gelding issues. I physically can't fix that unless I buy another companion for each pony, that just isn't realistic!
 
To be honest losing purchase/sale price isn't important. I've spoken to the old owner and she is going to see if she can have an extra one at her yard and if so I'm going to give him back to her, she has geldings and is happy for him to live out his days with her. Fingers crossed and breathe held...

I agree that he is anxious and the riding school negatively effected him but I sort of assumed that turnout and 121 handling was what he needed and to a degree it has helped but I wasn't expecting the mare/gelding issues. I physically can't fix that unless I buy another companion for each pony, that just isn't realistic!

That sounds like a great outcome, fingers crossed! :) Sadly just one of those things, you weren't to know about the mare/gelding issues until he went into that situation and presumably if little/no turnout with others at the riding school he may not have been observed interacting with others. Hope it all works out.
 
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