XC Confidence (rider, not horse!)

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I'll just say that this is probably going to be a long one, so I apologise in advance...

I'll start with a bit of background on this whole situation. Up until last April, I was happily competing Rosie at BE90, and having successfully done some unaffiliated 1m stuff, and training over novice level, was planning to step us up to BE100 later in the season. I'd happily have a go at most fences, and other than the normal little bit of nerves when trying something a bit scarier or bigger, no real issues. Rosie loved XC, was super bold, heart of a lion, scope to burn, never stopped, was always a really clean jumper XC. Now this is where everything goes wrong. We were doing a BE90 run in April, and had a freak accident on the XC course. Came down to one of the fences (it wasn't especially big, wide or technical) in a good forward rhythm, like we'd had round the whole course so far, pushed for the slightly longer stride (R preferred a long spot), R hesitated momentarily, not like she was going to stop, just like when they put in that extra half stride, we flipped over the fence in a full rotational fall. I've been over that memory so many times in my head and still can't work out exactly what caused it, whether she slipped, we had too much momentum or she just left a leg. I was thrown clear and walked away a bit bruised but basically unhurt. R was gone before the vet even got to her, she died in my arms. Vet said she either broke her neck or had a massive brain haemorrhage from the trauma, we didn't need to know which it was clearly the fall that caused it either way. Everyone who saw it, and everyone I've talked to about it since, has said that it wasn't hers or my fault, and it was just a tragic accident (aka. it wasn't bad riding, or a horse who was unprepared or out of control or anything like that) and that the chances of a fall at that level being fatal to the horse are extremely slim. I also know that eventing can be dangerous and occasionally these things happen, even if we wish they wouldn't. She was my absolute world, my best friend, and my absolute horse of a lifetime.

Now the problem is that while I still wouldn't class myself as a nervous rider, jumping things XC (and also hunting, which I also loved before) now really scare me. All I can think about is what if it happens again? What if I have to lose my horse all over again? And I can just see it happening in my head over and over. But I WANT to do it. I could easily just stick to dressage/SJ, nobody is pushing me to event again, but I miss eventing and I miss enjoying XC/hunting and I want to get back to being able to enjoy it again, even if it is at a lower level than before. As some of you have seen, I now have a lovely new horse who I bought about 4-5 months after I lost Rosie. I was riding in the meantime on friends horses, but found that I really wasn't happy without one of my own. Now riding other peoples horses, I did have some confidence issues, especially to start with, but I was able to overcome it to some extent and I did jump a few bigger (90/1mish) things on my instructors lovely ex point-to-point horse without too many issues. But I seem to have more problems when it's my own horse I'm riding. I'm not sure if that's because he's a bit green and I'm more worried he might make a mistake, or because he feels so different to what I'm used to or simply because he's my own so I'm even more worried about losing him (that sounds awful, but hopefully you know what I mean). I have taken him XC, and he's generally been fab, but as the fences start getting bigger/wider I'm having more and more issues. I'm scared to let him really go forwards to a fence, which I know inside he needs to and I'll get more problems by trying to hold him in too much than by letting him go that bit more forwards, and I have a tendency to chicken out at the last minute and drop him/pull him out, which also is going to cause problems I know. We aren't jumping anything huge, but I'd love to jump him round a 70/80cm ODE before the end of the season. I have actually jumped him some bigger things out hunting, because I gave myself no option by following the jumping group, I was bricking it (and crying) but we had no choice than to follow everyone else! He jumped beautifully, so I know it's not him! He's feeling great at the moment, but it's his rider who needs to sort herself out!

I have a few ideas of my own about what I need to do, but interested to see other suggestions. I think it's going to be a case of time and being scared and doing it anyway, because hopefully the more I do it and nothing goes wrong the more confident I'll get. But if anyone else has any suggestions or experiences, feel free to weigh in!

Tea and cake to anyone who made it the whole way through! :D
 
what a tragic accident. it must have been hell for you and every riders nightmare :( for now though I think you could get a lot of help from a sports psychologist as it does not sound as if you have talked things through with anyone professional and a sports specialist will understand the "want to do" that you are having at the moment. meanwhile please get out and do what jumping and dressage shows you can get to and perhaps just go xc schooling over baby fences rather than a xc event so that you can pick and choose what you jump so that you have good recent memories with your new horse towards the front of your mind for when you do go eventing again
 
I'm not surprised your nerves have been affected by such a horrible experience. I'd 2nd getting help from a sports psychologist. I spoke to one a few years ago when I was struggling and she really helped me. How about going and doing a hunter trial where you can do a 60cm course and then a 70/75cm if you feel like it? Maybe do the pairs class with a friend? Or even some novice team chasing? Hope something helps x
 
I think you are being far too hard on yourself. Of course the accident has had a huge impact on you, I agree with the other posters that a psycologist would surely be a good place to start.

Are you happy with your instructor? Do you feel they take the right approach?

On a practical level you need to try to get to a xc course as often as you possibly can, with someone you trust. Start with the height you are comfortable with, do not progress until you are finding it dull. This could take weeks or months, just keep at it, but make sure you do it really regularly so that it becomes part of your weeks training.
 
So sorry OP. Think my daughter was in the start box at the time of your fall. Horrible day. Also think a sports psychologist specialising in riding would really help you. Jo Davies is great and does face to face and phone consultations.

Echo taking it slowly and building up but best to talk to a professional first.
 
Thanks all. I had considered a sports psychologist type thing, does anyone know if there are any you can do online/over the phone? I have slight logistical issues in that I split my time between home (where horse is) and uni, and when I'm on holiday from uni I have to do a lot of placements, which aren't always near home, and I'm often there 8:30am-6pm (at least!) 5/6 days a week. This makes it hard to commit to anything regular unless it's evenings/weekends and phone/internet based.

I'm very happy with my instructor, she's wonderful and has been teaching me for over 4yrs now, she's helped me a lot with my confidence, but again, with logistical issues and her being very busy, it can be hard to find a time to fit lessons in, but we do what we can! I'm home from uni for the next 3 weeks so hopefully should be able to fit something in...

I have the luxury of having an XC course at home, so it's fairly easy to get out on one often, as long as I can find someone to come down with me or beg and plead with my mum (we aren't meant to jump down there alone) We've only been allowed to ride down there since Saturday, since it shut for winter in October, so hopefully will be able to get out there a bit more in the next few weeks. I feel like having got my confidence up a bit last summer/autumn, having a break from XC hasn't done me much good, but hopefully now everywhere is starting to open again and I can get out more that will help.
 
I was just looking at Helen Rennie's page on Facebook, think she calls herself Rezone Training, she does consults via Facetime she says. I've just bought her book on recommendation. :) Might be worth a look.
 
What an absolutely tragic accident, my heart goes out to you. Don't beat yourself up about the fact that you're lacking confidence at the moment, because you have plenty of reason to!

I also struggle with nerves massively, for slightly different reasons as I was badly injured rather than my horse. But it has been a massive struggle at times! A real low was in 2015, where I cried just warming up to XC school, then rode like a prat before promptly burying my (new) horse into a rolltop and going splat again... I was uninjured that time however I then spent a good half an hour sat in the back of the trailer on my own crying my eyes out as I felt like I would never fulfill my dream of going eventing because I just couldn't overcome these demons.

I actually completed my first 80 (unaffiliated) 3 weeks later, with just one unfortunate stop. I cannot give you a quick fix that has worked for me, but the love for the sport and determination to do it (which is clearly what you have too) has outweighed the nerves and meant that I spent 2016 competing at 80 and even attempting a 90!

Don't put pressure on yourself, would be my biggest tip, there is no pressure to be galloping round jumping huge fences. Keep within your comfort zone, and gradually increase it, time is the only cure here. I always avoid putting myself in a position where it is likely to be too much, but that limit has changed and changed, from jumping 70cm at home to being confident schooling over a metre. This year is the first time that I have managed to XC school over the height that I actually compete over, as my nerves are so bad XC schooling (I can only assume this is because that's how my accident happened).

I also find keeping a record of what we are doing to be a great help, if ever I feel like we are struggling I just look back at where we have come from - which was why I started my blog.

You will get there, and remember you are 3/4 of the way there already because you are out there doing it, and have a determination to do more! :) :)
 
Oh OP, I'm so sorry. You should not beat yourself up over being nervous, it's totally understandable. I've never seen a sports psychologist but I know a couple of people who've found NLP therapy helpful.

I wish you all the best.
 
I'm really sorry that this happened to you. Well done for recognising you need to change something, I haven't read the replies but two things. First of all, stop trying to XC. You are going to cause yourself and your horse long term problems by trying to jump and giving him mixed messages, and trying to push through your (understandable) anxiety clearly isn't working so just leave it alone for now. Secondly, find your self a really good sports psychologist, someone with a horsey background, NLP or CBT training, you need to address your internal dialogue and the effect your subconscious brain is having on you. You are programming yourself to fail currently, which is a self fulfilling prophecy and they will be able to help you get past that. I can't stress enough how important it is that you get that help, and what a massive difference it will make to you.
Also have you considered that R may have had a heart attack? I assume from your post that you didn't have an autopsy since the Vet made different suggestions as to why she died. I mention this because my old employer had a very bad fall up some steps as the horse had a heart attack underneath her and she describes the same feeling of the horse kind of pausing and just not reacting to the question in front of it for no reason, it turns out that was why. Her fall was videotaped and you can see the moment when the horse has kind of checked out mentally, it just stopped functioning and its momentum took it to a rotational fall. The why's and wherefore's probably don't make that much difference but I thought it might be worth mentioning because if you know something physical happened to R that was a freak occurrence it might stop you feeling guilty/questioning yourself.
Almost all of us lose our nerve at some point, mostly without as good a reason as you have. The human brain is a very powerful thing, but the good news is you can retrain it so the power works for you not against you. Best of luck.
 
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I was just looking at Helen Rennie's page on Facebook, think she calls herself Rezone Training, she does consults via Facetime she says. I've just bought her book on recommendation. :) Might be worth a look.

Thank you, I will have a look at her page and see if that could be an option!

I also find keeping a record of what we are doing to be a great help, if ever I feel like we are struggling I just look back at where we have come from - which was why I started my blog.

You will get there, and remember you are 3/4 of the way there already because you are out there doing it, and have a determination to do more! :) :)

Thank you. I find that keeping a record is good too. Part of the reason I love having photos and video, because I can remind myself of how far we've come. I also do love to read other peoples, and your page is one I liked on fb recently! :o

I'm really sorry that this happened to you. Well done for recognising you need to change something, I haven't read the replies but two things. First of all, stop trying to XC. You are going to cause yourself and your horse long term problems by trying to jump and giving him mixed messages, and trying to push through your (understandable) anxiety clearly isn't working so just leave it alone for now. Secondly, find your self a really good sports psychologist, someone with a horsey background, NLP or CBT training, you need to address your internal dialogue and the effect your subconscious brain is having on you. You are programming yourself to fail currently, which is a self fulfilling prophecy and they will be able to help you get past that. I can't stress enough how important it is that you get that help, and what a massive difference it will make to you.
Also have you considered that R may have had a heart attack? I assume from your post that you didn't have an autopsy since the Vet made different suggestions as to why she died. I mention this because my old employer had a very bad fall up some steps as the horse had a heart attack underneath her and she describes the same feeling of the horse kind of pausing and just not reacting to the question in front of it for no reason, it turns out that was why. Her fall was videotaped and you can see the moment when the horse has kind of checked out mentally, it just stopped functioning and its momentum took it to a rotational fall. The why's and wherefore's probably don't make that much difference but I thought it might be worth mentioning because if you know something physical happened to R that was a freak occurrence it might stop you feeling guilty/questioning yourself.
Almost all of us lose our nerve at some point, mostly without as good a reason as you have. The human brain is a very powerful thing, but the good news is you can retrain it so the power works for you not against you. Best of luck.
Thank you. Having talked to my instructor a bit in my lesson today, I think what we've decided is that I won't stop going XC completely, because when I'm in my comfort zone I do still love it and I can ride it confidently, and it's brilliant for Henry. But we've decided to work more on height/width of fences in the school, where I'm more comfortable/confident, theory being that if I can jump a 95cm oxer in the school, I should feel better about jumping a 70cm wider fence XC...

I actually had considered the heart attack theory, and honestly haven't completely ruled it out. Yes, we decided against an autopsy for various reasons. In the moment it kind of felt more like when they think about going for a long stride, reconsider and put one leg down really quickly and then hop their legs over (if that makes sense, I've seen horses do it fairly often) but it was just so quick, so I guess it could easily have been as you describe. Unfortunately, I think I'm the kind of person who will always feel some sense of blame/guilt, but hopefully I can work to lessen that since I've been told so many times it wasn't my fault.

I take some comfort in knowing that whatever happened, she went out doing one of the things she loved the most, she was feeling so fantastic. I have some very precious (but bittersweet) photos that were taken on course at the jump before we had the accident, probably less than a minute before, and her ears are right forward and she looks like she's enjoying it so much. I really hope that Henry will turn out to be half the horse she was, he is also feeling great at the moment and my confidence in him is getting there! We're still working each other out a little at the moment, but I'm sure we'll get there. I did do a 50/60cm hunter trial on him having only had him for 3 weeks in September, so that's a start!

Sorry for the long and late reply, have had a hectic few days and only getting the chance to sit down and reply now!
 
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