Yellow lead?

Cinnamontoast said:
Then you're very fortunate. In my local area, over four years this is, a mastiff type killed a greyhound. An Akita killed a papillon, I think it was, in our favourite park. An Akita cross bit one of my dogs, cost nearly a grand to fix the resultant infection. The same Akita cross then attacked a rough collie and bit the owner who ended up in A&E, police involved. A staffie attacked a chihuahua in the park round the corner, cost the owner £2k to fix, I'm actually amazed it survived. Then a 'pit bull' type attacked and seriously hurt another small dog a couple of months ago. We're in a very residential area. Generally, I don't have hassle, but I've made a point of being sociable while the OH trains the boys and I always tell other owners they don't like being interrupted.



Yes, but then you risk being reported for having a known aggressive dog in public. (Admission and all that)

A large young dog did a missile impression at mine this morning. He got a big shock when both of them had a proper go at him. The owner then said it will teach him a lesson, but it's not up to my dogs to train hers not to approach, SHE needs to put in the time and training.

I've also experienced the 'Mine is friendly/just wants to play I have put in zero training and cannot recall ohshitohshitohshit' so many times. Mine bloody doesn't! I've also had the entitled 'Well, my dog can do as he likes, no I won't recall', notably from the owner of the dog that attacked mine. My three were straining to get to hers!
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If I have a dog aggressive dog on a short lead & a dog approaches & hassles him/her then woe betide it (the dog g) & the owner (me). I would not allow a dog aggressive dog off lead in a public place but I would like to think I have still got the right to walk it peacefully & under my control in public without aggravation from disobedient dogs, idiot owners & the local authorities.
 
I agree, Blazingsaddles, with the bit about a dog approaching yours on lead. I had this happen the other day yet the other owner said I was at fault (for having my aggressive dog on a lead and trying to get away from his out of control youngster who went under my dog.) I completely agree that everyone has the right to walk without being hassled by other owners/dogs.

If only there was some way of showing other owners from a distance that their dog shouldn't approach mine! Oh, hang on....😀

Actually, it doesn't matter what colour or sign we use because other owners might not have trained their idiot youngsters and don't think they need to control them or have basic dog walking etiquette and that is the problem.

Re someone reporting you, a bloke near me had 3 dogs removed from him. I saw it happen on my way out one day. He had failed to put a muzzle on a known biter and had all 3 taken by the police. Never mind the local authorities, I don't want the cops turning up and incarcerating my dog because another idiot owner couldn't control their dog whilst I can.
 
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Aha, but I had a plan in case the boys in blue showed up😀 Not that this particular dearly departed dog ever did anything to warrant it - but the potential was there, her nickname was (tongue in cheek) The Slayer!😮
 
Blazingsaddles said:
If I have a dog aggressive dog on a short lead & a dog approaches & hassles him/her then woe betide it (the dog g) & the owner (me). I would not allow a dog aggressive dog off lead in a public place but I would like to think I have still got the right to walk it peacefully & under my control in public without aggravation from disobedient dogs, idiot owners & the local authorities.
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There does seem to be a line of thought ( a little odd I find!) that owners with aggressive or reactive dogs should only walk in the pitch black or in areas where no one else or their pooch frequents. As if having such a dog makes you an outcast. If everyone had control of their own animals there wouldn't be any issues.
 
Moobli said:
There does seem to be a line of thought ( a little odd I find!) that owners with aggressive or reactive dogs should only walk in the pitch black or in areas where no one else or their pooch frequents. As if having such a dog makes you an outcast. If everyone had control of their own animals there wouldn't be any issues.
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I think aggressive dogs should have no place on our over crowded island, there are too many incidents with them and with dogs that bite once I would say they cannot be out in public again, we are too lenient with minor aggression until it leads to someone being badly hurt. There is a gsd near me that is only walked at night who I met for the first time in ages a few nights ago. We were on a towpath and despite my dog pretending he wasn’t there, the other dog was going crazy and his owner was struggling to hang on to his harness. What happens if he lets go ? What’s the point for the owner or the dog ? This is a big dog that appears to be intent on doing some serious harm and he certainly shouldn’t to out in the day time.
 
Unfortunately IME there are a good few owners of aggressive and highly reactive dogs out there who are openly proud and big up their fierce dog's reputation. I am not just talking about the usual suspects with their boxer swagger and puffed out chest walking their barely under control bull type breeds in spiked collars and harness.

Even among the rest of the dog owning public that happen to have bad tempered and aggressive dogs there is a percentage that seem to have a sense of underlying pride and macho'ism about just how tough their dogs are - how they have to take special measures to keep their dogs from harming anyone and anything........not their fault if their brute savages another dog, its almost always the other dog owner's fault isn't it?:rolleyes:

Sorry but no - if you own an adult dog that is so aggressive and dangerous on or off the lead that you know it has the predisposition to harm another animal or even a child then you did NOT train it sufficiently well and should have had it destroyed as soon as you recognised you could not train that viscous streak out of it. Failing that then keep it safely enclosed on your own property where it does not put any other animals or people at risk.

It is not up to me to pussy foot around out in public with my well trained dogs that come and walk to heel on or off lead no matter what is going on around them. Aren't I lucky I have such good dogs? No I'm not - that 'luck' comes with damn hard work training them when they are pups.
 
MrsJingle said:
It is not up to me to pussy foot around out in public with my well trained dogs that come and walk to heel on or off lead no matter what is going on around them. Aren't I lucky I have such good dogs? No I'm not - that 'luck' comes with damn hard work training them when they are pups.
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If your dogs come to call and walk to heel, then you're not part of the problem, are you? My older dog ignores other dogs until they get up in his face and then he tells them to do one, he is kept on a lead in public and carries his ball and minds his own business, I have nothing to prove in terms of the hours I've put into training over the years, he just doesn't like other dogs bothering him, in the same way that I wouldn't like a complete stranger running up to me and shouting 'hey! hey! hey!' and pointing their finger in my face or coming up behind me and trying to sniff my arse. I doubt that's something anyone could train out of me.
I reserve the right to walk him without him being bothered with other dogs. Obviously I do not put him in silly positions (a busy park on a Saturday for example).
 
skinnydipper said:
Please feel free to start another thread if you wish to discuss dog aggression.

That isn't what this thread is about.

It is about the Yellow Dog Project and if you have read this thread then you should be fully conversant with what this is.
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Just about all threads on here go off at a tangent....I’m not sure anyone has anything else to add about yellow leads, if no one commented the thread would disappear so if you want publicity that’s what’s happening
 
bonny said:
I think aggressive dogs should have no place on our over crowded island, there are too many incidents with them and with dogs that bite once I would say they cannot be out in public again, we are too lenient with minor aggression until it leads to someone being badly hurt. There is a gsd near me that is only walked at night who I met for the first time in ages a few nights ago. We were on a towpath and despite my dog pretending he wasn’t there, the other dog was going crazy and his owner was struggling to hang on to his harness. What happens if he lets go ? What’s the point for the owner or the dog ? This is a big dog that appears to be intent on doing some serious harm and he certainly shouldn’t to out in the day time.
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I know we shouldn’t compare dogs behaviour to humans, but I do wonder that if a stranger came racing up to me whilst I was minding my own business & started touching me all over that I wouldn’t react in an aggressive manner. Luckily, my old bitch was a skinny hound (her strength wasn’t an issue) who was mostly mouth, but I must admit, even though I loved her, her attitude did hinder my enjoyment of her at times.
 
CorvusCorax said:
If your dogs come to call and walk to heel, then you're not part of the problem, are you? My older dog ignores other dogs until they get up in his face and then he tells them to do one, he is kept on a lead in public and carries his ball and minds his own business, I have nothing to prove in terms of the hours I've put into training over the years, he just doesn't like other dogs bothering him, in the same way that I wouldn't like a complete stranger running up to me and shouting 'hey! hey! hey!' and pointing their finger in my face or coming up behind me and trying to sniff my arse. I doubt that's something anyone could train out of me.
I reserve the right to walk him without him being bothered with other dogs. Obviously I do not put him in silly positions (a busy park on a Saturday for example).
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Oops, sorry CC, just noticed you made the same point I was trying to make!
 
Blazingsaddles said:
I know we shouldn’t compare dogs behaviour to humans, but I do wonder that if a stranger came racing up to me whilst I was minding my own business & started touching me all over that I wouldn’t react in an aggressive manner. Luckily, my old bitch was a skinny hound (her strength wasn’t an issue) who was mostly mouth, but I must admit, even though I loved her, her attitude did hinder my enjoyment of her at times.
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Your reply isn’t making much sense, no one, dog or human was doing anything other than existing and I’m sure going anywhere near this dog would result in violence, hes walked at night to try and avoid both dogs and people. I for one, don’t think we should have such dogs in our midst.
 
There is a woman in the estate close to me who has a huge GSD that sounds like the one Bonny is talking about. He is extremely reactive and she walks him at night, usually. She walks him in a harness (I wouldn't) and I always make sure to give them lots of space and vice versa. I don't actually think by the sounds of the barking that he is that bad, it's all noise and bluster. When we have to pass each other I make sure to stay very neutral and speak in a calming way to my dog and to her. I've had short conversations with her when I've been able to put my dog in a down and he chews his ball and her dog has calmed down, I truly believe she was completely miss-sold an unsuitable animal by an unscrupulous breeder and she is making the best of a bad situation. She isn't allowing the dog to run over and bother others, she tries to walk him at quiet times, I feel quite sorry for her.
 
Blazingsaddles said:
Aha, but I had a plan in case the boys in blue showed up😀 Not that this particular dearly departed dog ever did anything to warrant it - but the potential was there, her nickname was (tongue in cheek) The Slayer!😮
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Do tell, sounds interesting!

Moobli said:
There does seem to be a line of thought ( a little odd I find!) that owners with aggressive or reactive dogs should only walk in the pitch black or in areas where no one else or their pooch frequents. As if having such a dog makes you an outcast. If everyone had control of their own animals there wouldn't be any issues.
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I had an interesting incident one day. I had all three on the lead, going back to the car, crossing a narrow footbridge across a stream. A guy on the opposite side let off his collie who ran straight at mine, Bear reacted because she ran straight at him. According to the guy, I was at fault. According to me, he could have waited 20 seconds for me to hobble off the bridge which was just wide enough for three dogs. He said the collie had been attacked whilst on lead so prefers her off lead. 😳 I just don't know what he expected, allowing his dog to pelt at three others who were effectively blocking the way. He told me I shouldn't have an aggressive dog out in public. Bear is not aggressive, he just told her off. I asked him if I should walk on the moon at midnight.
 
bonny said:
I’m sure going anywhere near this dog would result in violence, hes walked at night to try and avoid both dogs and people. I for one, don’t think we should have such dogs in our midst.
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I would be really pissed off at aggressive dogs allowed to come up to mine and was very upset when an aggressive labrador attacked my dog. The trouble is, he was fine with other dogs so the owner blamed me (Jake was submissive, lay crying whilst her dog attacked).

Zak was fine until he was attacked. Should we pts much loved family pets who are fine with everything else? As I keep saying, he's not allowed near other dogs and doesn't approach them. Like CC, I never put him in stressful situations like a crowded park. We've worked out the quiet times and if there are other dogs, we move him.
 
bonny said:
Your reply isn’t making much sense, no one, dog or human was doing anything other than existing and I’m sure going anywhere near this dog would result in violence, hes walked at night to try and avoid both dogs and people. I for one, don’t think we should have such dogs in our midst.
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Well, apart from disliking strange dogs she was a super pet. My husband & I always said if she attacked another dog she would be pts. With careful management though she lived a crime free life until she was 14, when she suffered a stroke.
 
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