Yet another update on the filly!

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Had a call from the ILPH inspector before. He'd been to see the filly and a vet has been out too. They took blood and manure samples and have left antibiotics for her (let's hope she actually gets them!). The blood results will be back tomorrow, the manure will take about 3-4 days.
The inspector was quite funny with me on the phone. Made me feel like a naughty little girl who'd completely over-reacted about everything. He said i'm also not helping by getting other organisations involved (BHS welfare rep). Oh, and he said he'd mentioned the 'vomiting' to the vet (which she's been seen to do on 2 seperate occasions) and the vet said that's impossible and no she never!
The gypsies are still refusing to tell the inspector who the owner is. God knows why.
Feeling a bit disheartened about it all now.
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At least the filly's got food and water now though. And she's been getting hard feed too. Hopefully who ever is feeding her will make sure she gets her antibiotics and they'll make her feel better.
 
Think the word vomiting is the problem , you need to say choke to describe it or a strange noise and discharge from nose / mouth.
You are a star and if you had confidence in them you wouldn't have phoned others.
I bet if she got out and someone found her , an owner would soon appear, strange.
Good luck
 
The vomitting you saw would have been choke.

As for the inspector - well, he sounds like a numpty.

As for not telling him who the owner is - well, if the inspector can't trace an owner then I believe he has the power to remove the horse.
 
Well, I'm a little bit cheered up by that news. I don't think you CAN get too many people aware of the issue! Even if only one of them actually achieves a result, there might be useful lessons learned by others.

What if there were three or more of you, all calling in different organisations, unbeknown to one another?

As for the vomiting thing, no, horses cannot vomit, but if someone said to me, the horse made a strange gurgling noise and food came out of its mouth/nose, even I as an non-vet would take it to mean the horse was likely suffering an episod eof choke.I would investigate possible causes (poor teeth, injured tongue, foreign object lodged in mouth etc) of difficulty in swallowing - if I wasn't there to observe the choke happen directly as a result of, say, a fed carrot.

I do hope you aren't being dismissed as a fluffy-headed bunny hugger!
 
[The inspector was quite funny with me on the phone. Made me feel like a naughty little girl who'd completely over-reacted about everything. He said i'm also not helping by getting other organisations involved (BHS welfare rep). ]

It sounds like sour grapes that's all, you rattled his cage and rather forced him to pull his finger out and do something. He's just taking it out on you. Why do some of these welfare people have to come across as so patronising at times?
There is no law that says that you can't report such a thing to more than one society or whatever is there?

Good Luck.
 
Nope, i'm not aware of any law - i think you're probably right about him being peed off. To be honest though, it's the horse i'm bothered about, not whether or not he's taken offence to me calling to BHS. Forecast to be -4 degrees here tonight - i hope she's not too cold.
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And he is SO wrong if he reckons i'm a bunny-hugger!! I've just spent all day de-beaking 1200 of the xmas turkeys on the yard! A bunny-hugger wouldnt do that - they'd set them free!!
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Ahhh well, just got to wait and see what the blood results say tomorrow.
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at least something is happening. i would imagine this has made him feel a bit stupid for not doing his job properly in the first place. as you say the main thing is her. dont let him bother you, as you have done the right thing with good intention all the way. still keeping every thing crossed long term. do you have any idea who is feeding etc
 
well i do, am tor lous sis. At first it was a nice gypsy from what i can gather, he has one horse who is his pride and joy, you can see that his horse is very well looked after. he has been doing this mare since her real owner is in scotland. When the ilph inspector last came out he went to a yard down r road and spoke to the YO who knows alot of the gypos, she gave him a number of some high up gypsy that apparently the other gypos listen to. so the ilph man phoned him and told him that because she had been moved to another field she needed water and food. the next day it was done. at the moment i think that eithier the nice gypsy is still coming down or the horrible one that wont tell the ilph man who the owner is. the thing is the vet has left antibiotics for her to have, i just hope she is given them.
 
I am so pleased to at last hear there is some good news about this filly. However minor it may be and that she has not yet been removed from these people at least the cat is now out of the bag so to speak and people seem to be finally listening.
So sorry I am late on here again. I didn't get chance to post or read the thread yesterday and last night and today has been the same. Out all day again and just finally sitting down. I'm only explaining because I do really care about this filly and the situation she is in and I didn't want to come across as though I don't because I have not posted since the updated news.
I am glad to hear about the blood and manure samples and the antibiotics that have been prescribed for her. Not to mention the food and water as well. It does seem as though now the ILPH are finally beginning to take the case seriously.
Lou I would not worry about the inspector's tone too much because he was a little 'off' so to speak with me when I reported a horse to him earlier this year. I was made to feel a little like I should not have bothered because he didn't think the horse was that thin and he had seen worse.
Maybe so but that doesn't stop them from investigating the report anyway.
After the intial chat though he was better in his approach and it may well be that at this time it could be a busy period for the inspectors especially as it has been a terrible summer and it looks like the winter is not going to be much better. He may seem a bit abrupt because of this and I wouldn't take too much to heart Lou x
I know in my case he did thank me for bringing the condition of the horse to his attention and I know the RSPCA were also involved because someone else had reported the horse to them as well ( before me in fact).
The horse was released under veterinary supervision but in that horse's case the owners were very co-operative. The horse was elderly and it was perhaps soon its time to go but the owners although deep down knew that had maybe needed a jolt from an outside source just to say heh this horse is not looking so well and is deteriorating.
In your case though Lou the owner is not being co-operative and from what has already been stated about the filly losing a pregnancy it should have perhaps been a welfare case then especially as there is a chance veterinary care was not sought at the time.
Supposition I know but a very big possible that this filly never had any medical intervention at the time.
Her condition is worse than the horse which I saw and she is also a lot younger too and at an age when she should really be fighting fit and not looking like an old and broken horse.
The 'choke' issue should have been dealt with by the owner and it does appear to me on the face of it that this maybe contributing to her condition.
After reading your comments Lou about Animal Cops was it? I could not agree more with you. I am an avid watcher of programmes like that and could not agree more with the fact that this country needs better welfare laws and a specialised force policing those very laws.
I personally think the laws we have in this country are totally indequate however at this time they are the only hope for this filly.
I do want to see this filly rescued from her terrible situation but at the same time not at the expense of losing a possible prosecution against her owner(s).
Let us hope this filly not only gets a new and better start in life but also that those responsible for her sad demise pay for their actions.
Please keep us updated as and when you can Lou and Tor.
best wishes
Caroline x
 
Glad this filly's getting some vet treatment. What are the antibiotics for? Presumably the vet has found some sort of infection? That might be what the "vomiting" was all about - sinus or airway infection? The thing is, if she doesn't get given the anitbiotics, what does the ILPH propose to do? In that instance, surely they'd have grounds to remove her, as the owners have failed to give her medication prescribed by the examining vet. It sounds like the ILPH chap is feeling annoyed that you have drawn attention to the fact that he has not pursued this case properly.

Keep the updates coming!
 
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