yet more drama......

N

noodle_

Well-Known Member
Joined
29 October 2010
Messages
5,083
Location
Earth...
Visit site
honest to god im going to kill this pony of mine when i get my mits on her....

My darling little **** of a pony lives away on basically full grass livery...shes two, bolshy - and knows it.

Before she left, she kicked me in my stomach after a feed bucket...lesson learned etc and said where she went FGS do not go into the field with a bucket (they dont....but i was honest)!


Apparantly the little arse of a pony has kicked one of the girls on the yard, she spun and kicked (definately meant it)!...naturally concern is for the poor girl who has been kicked (im mortified).... she said shes ok but it still gives me an issue. Last time i visited one of the other yard girls told me in passing my pony had kicked someone else too...i was fuming (at pony)but different situation

So now my issue is - do i bring pony back? handle her properly daily (meaning brush/bond etc) atm shes just a pony in a field, eats, drinks and shits.... was when i had her too - she NEEDS manners - and wont get it living out 24.7 as ive now learnt.....


I really could do without this so close to xmas....i have no stable (btw shes NOT been kicked off but i fully agree with YO staff come first and i would understand if my pony got 7 days.... im fuming at my stupid horse...)



Thoughts please?

and no to selling....she will be a lovely thing with manners and a good hiding if she does it again.:rolleyes::rolleyes::(:(:(:(:(

this is a lovely yard - with lovely people/staff and owners - last thing i want is to have a bad reputation for a kicking pony and anyone getting hurt - they are very experienced but this isnt fair on them!
 
Your pony sounds like a real character, but unless you put the time in she will never learn manners, I think you said she was two, if so it could equally be her age, either way she needs time spent.
Our 18 yr old mare was an ex broodmare and she was bargy, food aggressive and basically rude, she still needs reminding sometimes, but she now knows what I expect of her
 
Yup, you're going to need to work with her fairly quickly. Nothing worse than one that let's those legs fly whenever they want. Even worse when she lives on a livery. What is her company situation? Lots of horses or one or two? Is she the boss? She sounds like she doesn't get put in her place very much either way. Thing is when she kicks out it really does need nipped in the bud instantly. And of course everyone's opinion varies on this, but I do not tolerate kicking. So I would be going in and out of field with a dressage whip. I also would catch her immediately and then do what needs doing including feeding. Any attempt to kick at me would be swiftly delt with by a smack on the butt and a growl. Then you carry on as normal. But it has to be instant. No getting yourself together and then after its done no standing there looking at her. Carry on as normal. Personally I'd have a a field safe head collar on this one until she got better about things. This doesn't sound like a one time incident. It seems to be escalating so yeah, you need to nip it in the bud.

Thing is on livery it's very hard for you and a horse like this. Because consistency is the key to her learning her boundaries. Different people all going in and out is going to be difficult.

She needs baby boot camp and now. If it can be done she could use some company that won't hurt her but will firmly put her in her place. She needs you and one or two other people who know what they're doing going in and out of the field. You can bring her in for brushes or even for her feeding but don't overdo things either. But you definitely need to sort boundaries in a field situation.

Just to add, I'm not a fan of hitting horses but I think kicking and lashing out are completely unacceptable. It needs sorting as soon as it starts. A well timed smack on the butt while out of the firing line, is better than a person in the hospital. When I feed my group of mares in the field I take my whip. They all know the scoop but at the same time they're convinced they're starving all the time and so manners can sometimes go out the window. They see little me with dressage whip and they just go to their pots and wait patiently. I think Abba is the only one that has ever needed a smack. That and changing her company when she was a yearling. She was never put in her place and walked all over her same age friends and me. Her older sister and brother sorted that rather quickly. She's 6 now and will always be in company where she will be put in her place.

Terri
 
As above, pull out of the field everyday. If she needs feeding bring her out of the field. Start bitting her so she wears a bridle and lunge line to be led in and make sure you wear a hat and someone is around to help you get through the gates.
 
Ditto Terri m'duck

Time to bring the young lady closer and start working on the manners. I'd wearing a hat, gloves and bp, just in case one if those kicks sends you flying. Only two and a bit weeks 'till Christmas, so if nowhere to put her leave 'till afterwards, but then really crack on.

As to your 'reputation' for having a kicker, fret not, she's young. Some just go through that stage, the thing is to start getting it sorted :)
 
Thanks guys! I was in tears last night as its such bad timing as I have no stable! Am on the hunt today

Circumstances she's turned round when the girl was turning her back out and it's always she boots in the field! She's reliable out of the field/once head collared

Feel terrible for the girl and owners :-(
 
Yup am afraid you're gonna have to do some work with the little so and so! If it's any comfort my two year old is currently being a complete a**e and he's handled daily so I do think there's something in the air but if she's kicking and getting away with it I'm afraid by the time she gets much older (or bigger!) she's going to be a bit of a nightmare to put it mildly!
 
Exactly what happened tho. Did she turn out correctly and the horse turned round to boot her. Or did she just let walk through the gate and let her go and the horse booted her?
 
Fw - I don't know I wasn't there she just said she turned her out and my horse turned round and booted her,

I had her 4 months before I sent her away and she did kick me once but that was my own stupid fault of going to the field with a feed bucket!

I have to go on what I'm told I wasn't there x
 
nope ^ this is why i sent her so far away - there is no such thing as grass livery where i live...believe i, i spent the best part of 2 years looking



im looking for a stable which is a task in itself!...
 
Hope you get it sorted out soon. I learnt the hard way by taking feed into a field as I got double barrel kicked and nearly died from it!! 6 weeks in icu. 6 months off work as I had a pancel cryst as it spilt it was hanging on and leak out rubbish which left me with a cryst!! I also nearlylost some of my other orgins too. I now wont go into a field if I know its a kicker!!
 
omg ^^ :o !!

this is why i want to nip this in the bud now - shes NOT a nasty pony she just knows no different

and the longer she gets away with it the easier it is for her

livin gout dosent suit her right now as she isnt gettin gthe attention I need to give her,,, so i need to handle/brush and walk her daily
 
Try and find a field where you can turn her out with other youngsters (who will assume a pecking order) and you don't need to handle her for at least 6 months - let the herd sort her out - not a mere human!
 
One of ours was like this when she came to us aged 18 months. We didn't have a stable at the time but did have a field shelter.

I'd work with her in and out of the field. So if you are going to feed her take her out of the field and do it - we made a tie ring on one of the fence posts outside of the field and worked with ours there, grooming etc.

Other than that everything that Terri said. If this pony were mine I'd be wanting to deal with it myself rather than risk someone else being hurt. Also if at all unsure wear a hat/bp whilst working around the pony.
 
She's just being a young horse (as someone else said). This isn't a horse problem, its a handler problem. It would be better if she had a regular handler, experienced with youngsters and firm but calm to turn her out.
It does need nipping in the bud before little one discovers how clever she is, and before one of the handlers gets a ruptured spleen.

You've done good in finding grass livery for her, but stuck between a rock and a hard place because of the travelling time for you, you could try having a word with the YO about who handles her and ensure they are competent enough to do so.
 
I should update this thread as i do not want my horse tarred with a nasty brush..


i spoke to the groom myself, who said that apparantly this particular incident occured as my horse was having a hoon with others, something (dont know which horse) knocked into the groom and she was basically stuck in the mud (as we all know how easy that is...)

mine then went past and flybucked in excitement and caught her - all very bad luck but a very reasonable explanation.... groom was very nice about it and didnt seem bothered however i did appolosise to her face as i didnt know who it was.


so my horse isnt really to blame.... i had just assumed the worse that she had targetted the groom - but it really wasnt the case at all

just to clear it up :)

ive had many a near miss over the years so i know how easy it is...



shes also now home, quiet as a mouse and i think its the best thing i could do for her....not really me!! just her :)
 
Thank you - me too to be toally honest but i wasnt there i couldnt say otherwise....


glad i spoke to the groom myself though and although no-ones fault i did appologise and wish them well etc... :)


i feel sad though - they know her better than me!...she gives kisses now apparantly which they have taught her lol.... know her inside out in regards to leading. etc

i had her 4 months - them 2 - but in all honesty her job with me was a companion nothing else so i didnt spend much time with her at all

thats about to change!
 
Yes but you were under a lot of stress with your other one at the time weren't you. This will be like a new horse has just arrived and you will get to know her in her own right I think. Enjoy :)
 
Definitely. ! I've groomed her this morning, picked out all 4 feet and changed her rugs etc, she's lovely in the stable which is definitely what she needs :-)
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top