Yobs throwing flares at horses

[skewbald_again]

I agree with this. Less students will be beneficial, if I hear the phrase "degrees are worthless" one more time, I may go mad! I just feel that using money to do it isn't the best way. No matter what happens, someone gets hurt. I hope one day there will be a far better system in place. One that isn't elitist in terms of money or "class", but keeps the standards high.

As I see it, University places should be limited to the top 10 - 20 % academically, for everyone else, real training and workplace education should be improved. Does anyone who remembers the old system really think Equine Degrees were ever really *necessary*?

If you qualify to go to University, and your family earns over (x) thousand pounds, they pay for you to go. If they have paid for 13 years of private school, they can pay for three more years, no questions asked.
If your family is truly poor, you should be fully funded.
In between those two extremes, there should be a sliding scale.

It should NOT be beyond us to devise systems which adjust for the advantages some people have over others - we should be fully capable of detecting that the girl from an inner city estate with a B in Biology, is doing better than the lad from Eton with the same grade. It is not, as they say, rocket science.

Anyone funded by the public purse in any way shape or form, who behaves like those animals on tv this evening, should be immediately sent down, and forced to pay back every penny they have. Those post graduates and lecturers taking part should be stripped of their degrees and serve a prison sentence. It's bloody bonkers.

 

[Laafet]

Aside from the whole should we/shouldn't we pay.I was absolutely disgusted with the video and pictures from the protest. The charging mounted policeman certainly were very brave, and I felt very angry at the people beating the horses with their placards.

 

[JJ1987]

Been at work all night, watching the news on tv with no sound so came home to check out BBC News and found this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11962905
Good on the police for doing this but have a look at the amount of rubbish and dangerous things thrown at these hard working men, women and horses as a result!
There seems to be a lot of mention about university and education being a right - to me I'm sure it's more of a privilage to go to university! In all fairness, being a graduate myself, I can safely say that going to university has been no help to me education wise at all. I'm in a lot of debt and the job that I wanted, which was funnily enough as a police officer, I couldn't do because I was part of 2000 new Metropolitan recruits who were never given a start date because they couldn't afford to take us on due to budget cuts. If I had applied for the Met and not gone to uni I'd probably be in the force now and I would hope I'd have been part of those fighting to keep order in London!
University was great for me for life experience and meeting new people but it was a blimmin expensive way of doing it! My advice for these people is that if a degree is not a requirement for the career you wish to do such as doctor or lawyer etc, go and get yourself a job instead. The majority of employers are putting more emphasis on work experience than education nowadays anyway as it seems everyone is going to university and a degree doesn't have as much standing anymore
Ice cream if you get this far!

 

[Caz89]

Once again it will be tax payers who will bare the brunt of their actions paying to replace and repair all the damage they have caused in London I personally think that anybody caught acting like a thug damaging and injuring people and horses should be pulled from the education system all together and forced to get a job !! It's disgusting and shame on this country for letting them get away with it !!! I feel ashamed to be British some times!

 

[Flicker]

As I see it, University places should be limited to the top 10 - 20 % academically, for everyone else, real training and workplace education should be improved. Does anyone who remembers the old system really think Equine Degrees were ever really *necessary*?

If you qualify to go to University, and your family earns over (x) thousand pounds, they pay for you to go. If they have paid for 13 years of private school, they can pay for three more years, no questions asked.
If your family is truly poor, you should be fully funded.
In between those two extremes, there should be a sliding scale.

It should NOT be beyond us to devise systems which adjust for the advantages some people have over others - we should be fully capable of detecting that the girl from an inner city estate with a B in Biology, is doing better than the lad from Eton with the same grade. It is not, as they say, rocket science.

Anyone funded by the public purse in any way shape or form, who behaves like those animals on tv this evening, should be immediately sent down, and forced to pay back every penny they have. Those post graduates and lecturers taking part should be stripped of their degrees and serve a prison sentence. It's bloody bonkers.

Well said!!

 

[spaniel]

^^

This is just how it used to work. You got into Uni because you were more clever than the next guy and were funded partialy or totally depending on your circumstances. It worked well, decent graduates came out the other end and employers were happy to have them because they KNEW they were getting someone a bit special.

Bring back the old days.

 

[1stclassalan]

I see the natives are revolting again! And the voice of Middle England on here is baying for the blood of rioters - all well and good, hanging is too good for horse abusers --- but then why the hell take them to such an afray and use them in such stupid ways! The whole idea of charging with sabres draw might well appeal to some of the mounted branch but the P.C. era has put a block on that years ago so we are left with the sight of poor horses exposed to every kind of abuse without any purpose.

There will of course be a few rioters who turn out to be 17 year old first offenders from good homes ( and these will be the ones given max publicity ) but the hardcore of those guys with the masks beating policemen will be "rentamob" anarchists with an agenda.

Higher education should be free at the point of delivery ..... but for thos who can benefit from it and stay the course - no dropping out after two hard terms of Travel & Tourism!

I don't care a fig if most folk won't pay their loans as proposed - it is the thin end of a long wedge. As it is, most who do well in University will go on to earn well and pay higher rate taxes and thus finance the whole shabang.

Oh, by the way, I paid for private education for both daughters - I didn't get a discount for not using the useless state schools - isn't that a riot!