YOs and DIYers - a question...

[RachelB]

It would depend on the way the yard is run. When I was a "proper" DIYer, YO had ultimate control over which field our horses were in. We were told when to move our horses to a new field, and YO never did anything (mostly because she wants paying for doing others' horses so she stays out of it and tells us what to do). That worked fine and although we didn't have much of a say as to where our horses were, YO managed it well.
Now I am a DIYer of a different sort, in that "YO" just owns the land and a horse and is a total novice herself. Myself and my friend get cheap livery in return for looking after the land and the horse, so we have control over where our horses graze and move all three of them about whenever we want, without YO's consent because she fully accepts that we know better than she does. The horses would never be moved though without it being discussed between myself and the other livery as we "run" the place between us. I would, however, be annoyed if my horse had been moved by someone else here without my consent - especially as I am attempting to avoid my horse coming down with laminitis.
IMO YO has the right to graze horses on their land where they want them, within reason, but it should always be discussed with the owner(s) first and no changes should be made until they are agreed upon.

 

[arwenplusone]

HH and YorksG I do totally agree and said in my OP that a livery yard is not the best place to keep a foal, but that is my decision atm.

I chose my current yard though because there are other youngstock there & YO breeds - actually this has been the only issue we have ever had here.

To me it isn't quite so much that it is the mare and foal (and I stress YO did not move the foal). It is more that I was not asked or consulted in the matter. Just trying to see if that is the norm really! (I'm guessing from replies here that it is not)

HH i do agree though that the YO needs me less than I need her tbh, so I am not one to rock the boat - she has done a lot for me and was a star when Mouse was ill. I also agree that some DIYers think they own the place and I don't want to appear this way

Also, I should have mentioned - I did talk to YO and they are moving back tomorrow.

James _08 - R & M fine - M is fat!

 

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James _08 - R & M fine - M is fat!

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my goodness pics pics,never thought i would hear that mind you grass was hardly lush at the previous place jay is practically horizontal now he so chilled out because he has a full belly all the time we love the new place and F has just put an offer in for a house with land and stables so if you want new livery yard

 

[DiablosGold]

NO! My YO wouldn't do that and I'd be annoyed if she did! We poo pick and de-ragwort our field, and scrub out/refill the water trough.

 

[Persephone]

My YO would phone me to help catch etc if there was a problem. Unless it was a total emergency he would not move the horses on his own. Other than that we all get notice so we can go over and make arrangements for any special needs like laminitics.

 

[allijudd]

no we dont just move unkess there is a valid reason...(i moved the foal and mare yesterday before the owners came up as chris was driving a digger through there field continously.)

however whenever we have the chance we would always ask....

generally unfortunatly the liveries tend to move there own horses without asking and then it confuses me when i go out and count numbers!!

 

[MillionDollar]

I'm a YO- No I would never ever do that, without asking, unless it was an emergency. I wouldn't do it anyway as horses do not like being moved, they like having their own field.

 

[Laafet]

As a YM I only had part liveries so it was up to me where they went anyway and I always told their owners where they would be when they were moved. Sadly my experiences since moving to Norfolk are not so serene. I've been on DIY for 9 years and never had my horses moved without prior warning or a request that I move them myself which is no problem. So consider how I felt when my nervous youngster was 'moved' twice without telling me and on both occaisions was uncatchable for several days afterwards and was not told where he was. At that time it was winter and I came up in the dark wandered to his field to see him and there was no horse. I phoned friend who's horse was with mine, to be told that they had been moved without notice and as they couldn't catch mine, he was herded to the new field. Hence why I couldn't catch him. He was so traumatised by these moving experiences that if the YM approached him on the yard he would shy away from her. Needless to say we left with a lot of other issues mainly the lack of pasture management, over grazing of fields and cr*ppy attitude to DIYers. I took T back to that yard to hack out with a friend that is still there and he got quite upset being asked to go back onto the yard but was completely fine on the hack. So that says it all as to how he felt about the place. So glad I moved.

 

[SO1]

We are on rotated grazing and sometimes the YM does move the horses and calls to say they have been moved. I would rather she moved my pony than left him on his own and waited for me to arrive I work full time so it is difficult for me to come during the day to move him, I really appreciate them for moving him for me.

Sometimes we get to the yard and there is a notice up saying that we will be moving to a different field the next day. The YM always calls everyone to let them know and then anyone who can't come at the moving time will get their horse moved.

However the horses are used to being moved to different fields every few months and it means that the field can get rested and harrowed so is the benefit for everyone.

I think it would be annoying if he got moved and then I was not told as then I might go to the wrong field and get worried if he was not there!

I think I would feel differently if I was maintaining the field myself and doing all the fencing harrowing etc but that is not the case!

 

[amandaco2]

i would be VERY annoyed if someone moved any of mine without asking-unless it was an emergancy and they all had to come in of course.
in fact i would make me consider moving
reasons being-i like to walk a new field first to check there are no big holes or broken fences etc
and also because i dont want any of them on lush or even over good grazing as one had lami last year.
i also like to put some brushing boots on them all first as they often have a hooley about and its better to prevent any nicks and cuts, plus one mare is very stressy and would freak out if she was moved and the others werent and end up laming herself(again)