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Roasted Chestnuts

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So today Faran had his first negative dog experience.

We are building up to solo hacking. So we are long lining out then I’m hopping on and hacking back. Today was the first time I’d hopped on alone.

Anyway before I could even get on I came round a corner in the local forest and from the bottom of a very long hill I saw two GRs at the top of the hill and not an owner in sight. I stopped Faran and was waiting to see if any owners appeared. Just as we did that one of them spotted us, the puppy it turned out. Of course it immediately, just as the owners, a man and a woman, came over the brow of the hill, started running down barking. Faran wasn’t too fussed at this point and I’d come to his head and was standing. The woman was shouting and shouting and the dogs weren’t really doing what they were asked. She did have a chance to grab the older dog but didn’t. Then the older one joined in in the advance and both started barking and running towards us. I didn’t want them getting behind him.

I swished my whip at them as they came closer, the puppy stopped but the older one didn’t and that’s when a Faran spooked and pulled me backwards. The woman was screaming that he’s just a puppy. I said that my horse was only four and he could have killed your dogs.
The man then shouted to me that I had no business being in the forest I told him I had every right to be there and that their dogs should have been under control. I also told them their dogs were in camera running at me. They high tailed it away quick as you like.

I just don’t get the entitlement to tell me where I can ride when my horse was under control when their dogs weren’t. It’s a public space not a dog park and if you don’t have recall then I don’t believe your dog should be off leach in a public place.

Im glad I had my helmet cam on, I’ve only recently started wearing it again. I was so proud of Faran as other then the big spook and pulling me backwards he was calm not long after whilst I sort out out the lines I’d had to drop when I went to his head.
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Sorry to read that happened, sounds like Faran did a pretty good job handling given all that was going on. Some dog owners are so entitled it really is unbelievable. I can't (but unfortunately sort of can) believe they tried to blame you! It's bad enough letting the dogs do it in the first place, let alone being anything other than majorly apologetic.

If the horse I share was not so good around dogs, our hacks would be a nightmare because there are so many dogs and more than once have they been around her legs. She's used for a dog training class to help the dogs learn how to behave around horses so is particularly good but seriously could not blame any horse for responding in some of the situations with dogs.
 

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I hope you gave them both barrels of your gob. :mad:

It was very very tempting to do that. I kept my cool which normally isn’t like me when folk are cheeky and entitled however I wasn’t wanting to upset him more by me roaring the heads off two idiots so I kept it low key for Faran. I use my voice a lot to control Him and he knows my tones ??
 

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Welcome to my world. Luckily, our horses are very desensitized to dogs and only react to ones they believe are a threat (and if the horse spooks, they usually are!).

The other week, my friend and I were trotting along a track, me in front, her behind, and suddenly, her horse accelerated and came alongside mine. My friend was puzzled, as her horse normally stays put behind whoever, and I looked down to see a border terrier jumping at the mare's back legs and hanging onto her tail. We slammed on the brakes. Owners uselessly called dog, and eventually they caught it after it had darted around the horses' legs for a couple more minutes. We said they were lucky the mare didn't boot it into next week.

"He's usually good. He's never done that before." My favourite line.
 

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Thanks folks. That learning curve could have been the last for one or both of those dogs if they had gotten behind or went for him. I wouldnt have liked to have tested it out any further ?

Exactly. Owners learnt that they needed to take action quicker, and Faran had an experience with dogs rushing up to him that he dealt with without panic.

(I had a horse that killed a dog. Not nice for anyone involved).
 

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Exactly. Owners learnt that they needed to take action quicker, and Faran had an experience with dogs rushing up to him that he dealt with without panic.

(I had a horse that killed a dog. Not nice for anyone involved).

Kia was like that. Only whilst loose however he minded his manners inhand or ridden unless he got the go ahead from me to do what came naturally to him. It wasn’t pleasant I will admit to watch.
 

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Well handled over all. Unfortunately I feel our horses all have to get used to rude dogs, so I let them meet my own terriers first ;) ... More seriously, we have the same problems on our main bridleway. A few years ago, two dogs went for a pony and child. Mother was lead reining. Pony reared and fell over, then bolted with the two dogs in pursuit. Dog owners ran off, also in pursuit. Mother obviously had to tend to fallen child. Pony was retrieved at the yard gate with several bite marks; owners were never located despite massive local facebook support and the police were out and about for weeks on the bridleway as they took it very seriously. Who runs away from a fallen child?
We've had other, similar incidents (once a dog came out of the hedge and spooked a pony on a wet steep road, pony slipped, dog ran away, and TWO CAR SWERVED AROUND THE FALLEN PONY AND RIDER before someone stopped.) ... Rant over.
Your horse did fab !!!
 

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I just think it’s more about being respectful that it’s an open space. If you aren’t sure about your dogs behaviour keep it in a leash or pay the fiver and go to the run free dog park. Or go the free massive dog park that’s local ?

I’m glad he behaved and seems none the worst for his experience. Hopefully going to try again tonight and see how we go ????
 
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