Enfys
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Zeus this morning, displaying his fiery temperament. NOT.
Your Stallions? Huff and puff or just big softies?
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tigers_eye
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Think he's doing as told - he just knows that cat will dig his/her claws in if he even thinks of getting up! Cat is quite right too - there's snow on the ground!
catza
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Ah what a fab pic!
SSM
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Big wild stallion, to be scared of
Enfys
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Big wild stallion, to be scared of
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Quite terrifying isn't he?
Winter woolies make him look like a cuddly pony, he still has his dapples though, I had always thought they went away in winter.
How is Bumbledog these days?
Big wild stallion, to be scared of
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Quite terrifying isn't he?
How is Bumbledog these days?
MissIndependance
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What a fab picture! Very cute! And yes - he does look like a wild raging beast of a stallion....
ajf
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Ah that is amazing!!!
Def a pic to go on his studcard!!! hehe!!!
Def a pic to go on his studcard!!! hehe!!!
Anastasia
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LOL.........great picture..............yes he is definately fierce looking........
suebingham
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Adorable pic! And absolutely would figure significantly in my decisions to breed a mare to him or not!
htobago
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Awwwww! He looks so sweet!
I think most stallions are big softies underneath all the macho bravado...
Although I have to admit one practically never sees my boy lying down (he's not even very good at standing still), let alone with cats sleeping on him!
He does love anything small, though - ponies, dogs, cats, children - he goes all gooey-eyed over them, and gets frightfully excited trying to get them to play with him...
I think most stallions are big softies underneath all the macho bravado...
Although I have to admit one practically never sees my boy lying down (he's not even very good at standing still), let alone with cats sleeping on him!
He does love anything small, though - ponies, dogs, cats, children - he goes all gooey-eyed over them, and gets frightfully excited trying to get them to play with him...
PapaFrita
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Scary-looking stally indeed!!
Enfys
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My scary looking stallion snap was one of four choosen for the days contest and came second in his competition on equusite! Beaten by a Jackass!
Epona, is that photo good or bad as an advertisement for his temperament? I don't know if he'll be going public or not, there are so many stallions about and he doesn't have a show record. I am waiting to see what he throws from two rather different mares I have, one an arab and the other an APHA. He is one of the sweetest tempered horses (colt or not) that I have ever come across though. I just want him as a riding horse, and he will, in all probability make a better gelding, we'll see.
hTobago, photos I have seen of your boy always make me think of a rather mischievious, but harmless, schoolboy - "Oh, what's that? What does it do? What if?" Still love him to bits and I need to answer your pm, have questions.
Happy Christmas everyone, from a rather wet, windy and depressing Ontario......bit like being back in Wales.My snow is disappearing infront of my eyes and I have MUD
Epona, is that photo good or bad as an advertisement for his temperament? I don't know if he'll be going public or not, there are so many stallions about and he doesn't have a show record. I am waiting to see what he throws from two rather different mares I have, one an arab and the other an APHA. He is one of the sweetest tempered horses (colt or not) that I have ever come across though. I just want him as a riding horse, and he will, in all probability make a better gelding, we'll see.
hTobago, photos I have seen of your boy always make me think of a rather mischievious, but harmless, schoolboy - "Oh, what's that? What does it do? What if?" Still love him to bits and I need to answer your pm, have questions.
Happy Christmas everyone, from a rather wet, windy and depressing Ontario......bit like being back in Wales.My snow is disappearing infront of my eyes and I have MUD
S_N
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Oh he is AWESOME!!!! As an 'extra' photo for an advert for him, I think that is priceless!!
htobago
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hTobago, photos I have seen of your boy always make me think of a rather mischievious, but harmless, schoolboy - "Oh, what's that? What does it do? What if?" Still love him to bits and I need to answer your pm, have questions.
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Mischievous schoolboy sums him up perfectly. He may be a big macho breeding stallion, but really he's just this cute little schoolboy - I always say that if Tobago had pockets, they would have conkers in them! - all wide-eyed and eager and looking for fun, noisy games to play.
And constantly demanding attention - "Look at ME! See how fast I can go! Look, if I stand bolt upright I can touch the ceiling with my nose! Hey - I said look at ME!" Typical male - always showing off!
Does your chap do this - in between cat-naps, I mean LOL? Maybe he's a bit older and wiser...
Can't wait to see your boy's foals!
(P.S. Will check my PMs!
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hTobago, photos I have seen of your boy always make me think of a rather mischievious, but harmless, schoolboy - "Oh, what's that? What does it do? What if?" Still love him to bits and I need to answer your pm, have questions.
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Mischievous schoolboy sums him up perfectly. He may be a big macho breeding stallion, but really he's just this cute little schoolboy - I always say that if Tobago had pockets, they would have conkers in them! - all wide-eyed and eager and looking for fun, noisy games to play.
And constantly demanding attention - "Look at ME! See how fast I can go! Look, if I stand bolt upright I can touch the ceiling with my nose! Hey - I said look at ME!" Typical male - always showing off!
Does your chap do this - in between cat-naps, I mean LOL? Maybe he's a bit older and wiser...
(P.S. Will check my PMs!
suebingham
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Epona, is that photo good or bad as an advertisement for his temperament? I don't know if he'll be going public or not, there are so many stallions about and he doesn't have a show record. I am waiting to see what he throws from two rather different mares I have, one an arab and the other an APHA. He is one of the sweetest tempered horses (colt or not) that I have ever come across though.
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Absolutely a HUGE PLUS! I'm having E bred this spring to a local Cremello QH -- he's OK looking but not real Knock-Yer-Socks-Off Gorgeous (IMHO) but he's got a kind personality. Obviously, their are other considerations too but a sweet nature is a must-have criterion since I'll be raising this foal in my backyard.
Epona, is that photo good or bad as an advertisement for his temperament? I don't know if he'll be going public or not, there are so many stallions about and he doesn't have a show record. I am waiting to see what he throws from two rather different mares I have, one an arab and the other an APHA. He is one of the sweetest tempered horses (colt or not) that I have ever come across though.
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Absolutely a HUGE PLUS! I'm having E bred this spring to a local Cremello QH -- he's OK looking but not real Knock-Yer-Socks-Off Gorgeous (IMHO) but he's got a kind personality. Obviously, their are other considerations too but a sweet nature is a must-have criterion since I'll be raising this foal in my backyard.
Tia
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That's a lovely photo Enfys. Zeus sounds exactly like my Ezzy; just perfect manners ALL THE TIME; quite a joy really. Ezzy was and still is, the most gentle and quiet horse; a tiny child could lead him around and he would be perfect with them.
QH's and APHA's really do seem to be in a league of their own, when it comes to being docile. REALLY looking forward to seeing his offspring - I have been so pleased with Ezzy's foals and I hope you are with Zeus'.
QH's and APHA's really do seem to be in a league of their own, when it comes to being docile. REALLY looking forward to seeing his offspring - I have been so pleased with Ezzy's foals and I hope you are with Zeus'.
Enfys
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Does your chap do this - in between cat-naps, I mean LOL? Maybe he's a bit older and wiser...
Can't wait to see your boy's foals!
Hi,
Christmas morning, animals fed, child bouncing about because her father won't wake up and she is slobbering with anticipation at the presents under the tree.
Everyone is busy with RL today!
I think Zeus and Tobago are much the same age, he is 4 in June.
Zeus is, as Tia says, incredibly laid back, the QH mentality is totally at the other end of the scale from an arab, I am still getting used to it. He quite happily shares his field with mares and the foal and I am completely happy about going in and doing anything I like without worrying I am going to get a rampant stallion on my back.
He does have his "He man" moments obviously, but only when he's chatting up the Ladies and getting their phone numbers, he had a week or so of teenage tantrums where he would rear when being led, but we soon nipped that in the bud. Occasionally ridden horses pass by and he does the prancy thing then.
After years of dealing with arab stallions, much as I adore them, he is very peaceful to be around.
Does your chap do this - in between cat-naps, I mean LOL? Maybe he's a bit older and wiser...
Hi,
Christmas morning, animals fed, child bouncing about because her father won't wake up and she is slobbering with anticipation at the presents under the tree.
Everyone is busy with RL today!
I think Zeus and Tobago are much the same age, he is 4 in June.
Zeus is, as Tia says, incredibly laid back, the QH mentality is totally at the other end of the scale from an arab, I am still getting used to it. He quite happily shares his field with mares and the foal and I am completely happy about going in and doing anything I like without worrying I am going to get a rampant stallion on my back.
He does have his "He man" moments obviously, but only when he's chatting up the Ladies and getting their phone numbers, he had a week or so of teenage tantrums where he would rear when being led, but we soon nipped that in the bud. Occasionally ridden horses pass by and he does the prancy thing then.
After years of dealing with arab stallions, much as I adore them, he is very peaceful to be around.
htobago
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Ah - he's actually younger than Tobago, then, as Tobago is 4 in March!
But as you say, the QH temperament is different, and Zeus is exceptionally laid-back and easy-going. I think Arabs can be just as gentle - and perhaps even more affectionate? - but they do tend to be rather more demonstrative and fizzy, which I know some people find a bit tiresome.
Your boy sounds admirably wise and sensible for his age, whereas mine is still somewhat excitable and over-enthusiastic about everything (or indeed about nothing lol)!
I really don't mind this, as long as the stallion is basically sweet-natured and gentle and has good manners. There's a big difference between a stallion that prances along beside you, all bouncy and excited but still respecting your space and doing as he's told, and one that barges and nips or pulls and tanks off!
The 'excitable but sweet/mannerly' type can be, for me, just as much of a pleasure to be around as a really laid-back, easygoing, quiet stallion. In fact I prefer the former. But I do totally understand that many people would prefer the quieter and less fizzy type. It must be a bit strange for you to get used to the lack of histrionics and drama, though?!
Do I remember correctly that your OH has banned you from having an Arab stallion, even if you wanted one? (Sorry if I've got that completely wrong.)
But as you say, the QH temperament is different, and Zeus is exceptionally laid-back and easy-going. I think Arabs can be just as gentle - and perhaps even more affectionate? - but they do tend to be rather more demonstrative and fizzy, which I know some people find a bit tiresome.
Your boy sounds admirably wise and sensible for his age, whereas mine is still somewhat excitable and over-enthusiastic about everything (or indeed about nothing lol)!
I really don't mind this, as long as the stallion is basically sweet-natured and gentle and has good manners. There's a big difference between a stallion that prances along beside you, all bouncy and excited but still respecting your space and doing as he's told, and one that barges and nips or pulls and tanks off!
The 'excitable but sweet/mannerly' type can be, for me, just as much of a pleasure to be around as a really laid-back, easygoing, quiet stallion. In fact I prefer the former. But I do totally understand that many people would prefer the quieter and less fizzy type. It must be a bit strange for you to get used to the lack of histrionics and drama, though?!
Do I remember correctly that your OH has banned you from having an Arab stallion, even if you wanted one? (Sorry if I've got that completely wrong.)
alleycat
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Interested because I once went to a stallion parade where there was an unusually large number of QHs (for Britain) all displayed under saddle; they were without exception so well mannered that they didn't attract the attention of the crowd as much as the strutting, preening stallions of the other breeds; but you had to admit, what a useful temperament for a riding horse.
However I get the impression that if they are upset they will bottle it up and become very unhappy indeed; I'm thinking of a half QH mare I knew who went into a total decline when her foal was weaned & sold on- made herself ill- wouldn't eat, wouldn't leave her box- she was such a quiet gentle creature, your heart ached for her. Is this true of the breed?
However I get the impression that if they are upset they will bottle it up and become very unhappy indeed; I'm thinking of a half QH mare I knew who went into a total decline when her foal was weaned & sold on- made herself ill- wouldn't eat, wouldn't leave her box- she was such a quiet gentle creature, your heart ached for her. Is this true of the breed?
Tia
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Yes Alleycat, I think you have hit the nail on the head generally with QH's. They do tend to just quietly go about their business, and unfortunately some people will take advantage of their quiet nature and they end up bullying them. The breed-type is not one to fight back but rather just get on with whatever is required of them.....well at least the working cattle stock are most definitely like this.
A few of mine have come from a cowboy who is renowned for being very tough with his horses and the ones I have bought from him do certainly take a while to come around and learn to become happy horses again, but still with the lovely gentle nature. They do remember their experiences though, and they remember the person who did "things" to them and you know this because they will not cause any ruckus but they will quietly shy away from the person.
There are many different breed types within the QH breed though - I only have working cattle bred ones and they are definitely the more laid back of all the types.
A few of mine have come from a cowboy who is renowned for being very tough with his horses and the ones I have bought from him do certainly take a while to come around and learn to become happy horses again, but still with the lovely gentle nature. They do remember their experiences though, and they remember the person who did "things" to them and you know this because they will not cause any ruckus but they will quietly shy away from the person.
There are many different breed types within the QH breed though - I only have working cattle bred ones and they are definitely the more laid back of all the types.
Enfys
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Tia,
A question or two please.
As you know, I am still on a huge learning curve about QH's and the types within the breed (much like the arabs really), what would you class as a working cattle bred horse?
Is this a particular type?
Specific bloodlines?
Or just progeny from horses that have actually worked!?
Thanks.
A question or two please.
As you know, I am still on a huge learning curve about QH's and the types within the breed (much like the arabs really), what would you class as a working cattle bred horse?
Is this a particular type?
Specific bloodlines?
Or just progeny from horses that have actually worked!?
Thanks.
alleycat
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Have you seen Ninjagrinch's recent post? That's the sort of quiet bottling up of troubles that I meant...If QH wasn't so unusual here I'd wonder whether she could be a QH-native cross.. She's a nice little mare & can certainly move.
Tia
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Oh Enfys I am only a learner too where this QH lark is concerned, but this is pretty much the measure of it; you have a breed society which has a few totally different breed lines running through it. Going back to the very beginning, all started from the original Arabs and then came the TB's and then the native stock. Horses were bred in the same fashion of today - bit of trial and error, trying to find the perfect horse to do whichever job was required of them.
Some of the branches were racehorse lines, showing quality lines, reining lines and the mixture of many different working lines. Each of these lines are distinct and rarely similar to the others.
The cattle ones which I go for, all come from particular sires and dams. I know enough about this sub-species of the QH breed to know that you are almost guaranteed of a horse who will do exactly what you want from it, if it has been bred with all of these specific dams and sires in it's lineage. It becomes complicated though as within this working cattle sub-species, there are a number of sire and dam lines which also are working cattle bred lines, but they are not the ones for me. The ones I have all come from large prizewinner descendants with good, stable demeanors, all bred to win and be the best at what they have been bred for; it's this lineage that I have/desire, because working is in their blood; it's what they are here to do; it's a state of mind, a genetic-trait if you like - they intrinsically know what to do....
I guess my very best way of describing what I have is to liken them to ISDS collies. They are bred to work - this is their purpose in life; and once again, most of these dogs come from particular bloodlines which have proven time and time again that the offspring will do the job asked of them. A few likely fall through the net, but in the main, they don't; they do exactly what it says on the tin, lol!
Some of the branches were racehorse lines, showing quality lines, reining lines and the mixture of many different working lines. Each of these lines are distinct and rarely similar to the others.
The cattle ones which I go for, all come from particular sires and dams. I know enough about this sub-species of the QH breed to know that you are almost guaranteed of a horse who will do exactly what you want from it, if it has been bred with all of these specific dams and sires in it's lineage. It becomes complicated though as within this working cattle sub-species, there are a number of sire and dam lines which also are working cattle bred lines, but they are not the ones for me. The ones I have all come from large prizewinner descendants with good, stable demeanors, all bred to win and be the best at what they have been bred for; it's this lineage that I have/desire, because working is in their blood; it's what they are here to do; it's a state of mind, a genetic-trait if you like - they intrinsically know what to do....
I guess my very best way of describing what I have is to liken them to ISDS collies. They are bred to work - this is their purpose in life; and once again, most of these dogs come from particular bloodlines which have proven time and time again that the offspring will do the job asked of them. A few likely fall through the net, but in the main, they don't; they do exactly what it says on the tin, lol!