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[RunToEarth]

Reginald- you seem to be one of these antis that adopts the view that a hunter is part of the aristocracy and out for a good banter. I'm a farmers lass, quite down to earth, have som airs and graces when it suits and for me hunting serves a purpose. This is our countryside, its our sort that have always put the work in, and swap your office job for my dad's on a wet january morning you would be screaming out, this countryisde is managed by the people who know it best, why the likes of others need to get involved is beyond me.

 

[Reginald]

Foxhunting was created by the aristocracy. They found it was fun to chase foxes and so the "sport" was born, and when they ran out of foxes they shipped more in. It has nothing to do with vermin control and all about "fun". The point of this thread is to express the views held by the great majority of country-dwellers that it's possible to appreciate the countryside without trying to kill the creatures that inhabit it.

Having said all that, nowadays a lot of chavs and aristo-wannabes go foxhunting. No class!

I don't have an office-job, but unlike you I don't look down on people who do. Everyone has to make a living so drop the attitude. It's the arrogance of pros like you which results in the type of stories listed on henryhorn's thread elsewhere on this forum.

 

[severnmiles]

Actually reggie, lurchers were a poor mans dog, used for poaching.

 

[RunToEarth]

I am 17years a farmer's daughter, pissing the local landowners off by doing as stated in HH's post is possibly social suicide and being a socialite I find that a grim path to take.
Hunting was brought about but yestercentury, back when we thought the earth was flat and we had no explaination for volcanoes, hell hitler killed all those jews and America dropped that hideous thing on Japan, but that doesn't mean thats how the world works today.
The land is ever changing as are people's views on what is right and what is not, people have to go with that.
Of course I don't hunt because I love to see foxes killed, but then who does. My brother takes his 4/10 down to the farm each night to shoot rats that may lurk there, its not because he has an undying thirst for blood, its because they are a pest and eat the cow's food.
As for looking down on people? No. I am sorry if I came across like that, as I have already said, I am a farmer, and although our farm is pretty decent sized in comparison, farming right now isn't the career to be in, and though I'm only a little un, I wasn't brought up to look down on people, but realise what luxuries I have had and be thankful for them.
I simply worry that you brand us all with the same tar, as I am sure I sometimes do with you. It seems the countryside, rural britain is becoming awfully moulded to something which it shoudlnt be, who is the government to tell the farmers when they can spread their muck??

 

[severnmiles]

Red tape and Defra....the death of farming.

 

[DingDongScabiousOnHi]

Can you understand how people get pleasure from hunting?

 

[Reginald]

As I say in a previous post I can understand how hunters enjoy the scenery, the horses, the hounds etc. What I can't understand is how people like Carreg can enjoy the actual kill.

 

[DingDongScabiousOnHi]

But can you understand how people enjoy the process of using dogs to catch foxes?

leaving aside the actual killing

 

[soggy]

What I can't understand is how people like Carreg can enjoy the actual kill.

The enjoyment comes in all that leads up to the act and all that follows.

The act of killing, pulling the trigger is but a fleeting moment in time. And is neither enjoyed nor regretted.

Just as you neither enjoy or regret the act of swatting a mosquitoes. In fact I would bet that you actually enjoy mossie swatting especially those ones that bite you during the night.

 

[Reginald]

"The enjoyment comes in all that leads up to the act and all that follows."

So let's put this in the context of terrierwork. The terrierman enjoys shoving his dog into a warren etc... then digging down to the fox. The fleeting part he doesn't enjoy is pumping a bullet into the fox's exposed head. Then the enjoyment restarts, retrieving the dog, which may or may not be injured, and filling in the hole, together with the fox's corpse. Yes, you've convinced me: a right fine day out.

 

[soggy]

If thats what you want to believe then go ahead. LOL

As I said the enjoyment comes from all the precedes it and all that follows.

What you have chosen to focus upon are just very small aspects of the day. Which is understandable given your obvious lack of knowledge and particular agenda.

I'm love the use of the dramatic prose. Pump bullets into the exposed heads of foxes )) I'll have to try that one! Do you use a standard bicycle pump or something with a bit more uummmph? I don't fancy having to drag an airline and compressor out to the woods though.

 

[DingDongScabiousOnHi]

Reginald.

Can you really not understand why people enjoy hunting so much.

It isn't just about the scenary. People actually do enjoy hunting animals.

 

[Reginald]

er... ok

 

[DingDongScabiousOnHi]

and....

can you?

just curious..

don't be shy!