Zfdp Grading Atlantic Dancer 1st Premium sons

[Ranbyhall]

Atlantic Dancer has come up trumps again with two of his sons gaining Premiums and part One passes into the Sports horse section at the Zfdp Gradings at Moulton college yesterday.
The four year old Ducal Dancing King was presented by Ian Wills the event rider showing the most fantastic paces and temperament, and I believe is out of a graded Tb mare Ducal Miss Tuesday by Primitive Rising.
The second was the 5 year old Ducal Dancing Comet who has already graded in the UK with top notch scores I am trying to find out with whom and what were the results.
This young stallion was very compact and elevated in his movement.
I am not sure of the Zfdp final result but I believe he received some form of elite Premium which is not issued as standard by the German stud books, He must be a very special chap, and to have his English grading endorsed by a top German stud book can only add to his credibility.
Well done to Atlantic Dancer an old boy who is still producing the best for British breeding.

 

[sallyf]

Ducal dancing comet is SPSS graded.
Sounds like a good day all round with lots of stallions getting graded.
Touchwoods Vagabont was also graded

 

[Ranbyhall]

Do you know what grading results Ducal Dancing Comet achieved with SPSS,
I understand he was very highly rated,
The Germans at Zfdp described him as having exceptional quality.
I beleive there were only three 1st into the top sports horse book plus additional 1st into Pinto, Palomino etc.
I wonder if somebody from Zfdp could post the full results.

 

[sallyf]

According to the SPSS website he scored 86.92 to top the gradings and get 3 years permission for covering

 

[Truly]

As far as I know only four stallions that entered were graded into Stud book One of their appropriate Stud book in the ZfdP..the others graded were put into Stud book Two of their appropriate stud books in the ZfdP. Of the four that got into Stud Book One, two were awarded Premium.....Ducal Dancing King (German Riding Horse SB) and Houdini @ Little Uncle (Knabstrupper SB)

It was my first visit to a grading and the venue was very good and well organised

It was a little difficult understanding the comments as they were lost in the translation.

I think there would be some confusion with the stud books within the ZfdP as to how some horses graded higher than others...I would compare this to judging a Mountain and Moorland class where they judge them on the standard of each breed and not against eachother as such.

That was my take of it all and I'm sure one of the organisers will correct me if I've got it wrong.
They were very helpful though and I'll probably take my boys next year now I've seen how it all works

 

[Ranbyhall]

I believed that it was Ducal Dancing Comet that took book One and the premium and that Ducal Dancing King also went into book one.
Who were the other two book one horses.
The Perlino Kinsky horse went into book one but the Palomino stud book.

 

[Truly]

Thanks for the correction

I didn't write the names down of the fianl four and got a little confused with all the 'Ducal' horses...which were all very nice!

It would be good to see the results for who? got what? and which? studbook

 

[Touchwood]

truely has summed it up quite well, it all got a bit confusing at the end with much of the feedback lost in translation! We actually only took vagebont for the assessment class, but were asked by the evaluators to put him forward for grading. He was totally unprepared but a superstar in the loose jumping. He graded into studbook 2, due to his age (7) he needs to be performance tested to upgrade to book 1. I am happy anyway.

 

[DW Team]

Multicolor II a German Warmblood Buckskin (Dun) and White was one of the other four to get into the 1st Stud book.He stands at the Bracken Spa stud who had 3 stallions shown yesterday.
I felt it was a very good day but was let down by not being able to hear the comments at the end and the translation of them. Everyone seemed to have a good day.

 

[madmare22]

Slightly off topic, are the Ducal horses stravinskys owners horses ?

 

[sallyf]

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Slightly off topic, are the Ducal horses stravinskys owners horses ?

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Yes

 

[deskbound]

Hear hear for Ducal Dancing King - he is an absolute dude to deal with day to day, on a busy competition yard with mares, foals, eventers all around, and he is a star. A total credit to Ian Wills and team - FYI they also had the Champion Colt Foal today and the Reserve Champion Filly Foal (both at Moulton).

 

[remizero]

Ducal Dancing Comets dam has produced another premium foal this year at the Zfdp grading at Ranby on Monday this colt is also earmarked as a stallion prospect for the future.

 

[mansan]

erinite was quite right the results were very confusing!!!!!!!! Our young stallion SAMARA FLY graded into studbook two being the youngest stallion to grade in the uk I think maydee it would have been clearer to put a full list of stallions graded and into which studbook in horse and hound. All in all it was a very enjoyable day and i am sure next year the grading will run very well. We will be back next year.

 

[Ciss]

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According to the SPSS website he scored 86.92 to top the gradings and get 3 years permission for covering

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And for those who decry the value of UK gradings and the quality of some of the evalautors, Pual told me that the marks he recieved from the ZfDP graders (0one of whom is a Trak grading judge) were almost identical section by section to those he recived from the SPSS graders. The only difference was that the SPSS gave him a lower mark for his loose jumping (when he was a bit fast, flat and excited) but they had 12 months to work on improving that between the two gradings which probably accounts for the discrepancy. And of course SPSS graders are almost always Futuirty evaluators too

I am just a bit worried about the accuracy and completeness of the HH report though so are the full results up on the ZfDP UK web site yet, and if they are what is the web address?. I ask becuase the printed report does not seem to mention Future Illusion which is odd as I thought he was graded into the sports horse / warmblood section then as well -- but then they didn't mention Perlino Kinsky by name either as they put him in List 1 of the palomino section not the warmblood / sports horse one. Some phone call to the editor of the section for a correction here surely?