Birker2020
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https://www.horsemart.co.uk/2-year-old-all-rounder-mare-17-2-hh-norfolk/Horses/621669
I can't believe a 2 year old is jumping. This is so sad.
I can't believe a 2 year old is jumping. This is so sad.
2 year old horse for sale
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Scotsbadboy
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Why don't you ring them and tell them off?
Trouper
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The advert gives DofB as 2016 and says she has been with them "since" a 2yr old so I am guessing she is 5 now.
Still too young in my book for a large breed like her to be doing all that. Why can't people just let them grow up!!
Still too young in my book for a large breed like her to be doing all that. Why can't people just let them grow up!!
Fleece Navidad
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Description says 2016, which would make her a 5yo, so hopefully they just selected the wrong option from a list. Still quite young for big jumps but not as bad as it seems at first glance.
Birker2020
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Oh that's a bit better then, the advert states twice that she is a 2 year old. Nice looking horse too.
Rowreach
Adjusting my sails
She's five, and there is one photo of her schooling over a not very big fence. And the details say she's been produced slowly.
What on earth is there to worry about?
What on earth is there to worry about?
Birker2020
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Sarcasm is not necessary.
I am just stating that a 2 year old shouldn't be jumping anything, their growth plates (all 32 of them) don't finish closing until around 5 years of age, sometimes it is 2 years later than this with the WB types. It's a shame to potentially ruin a horse by doing too much.
Like the bloke at work that jogs 8 miles a day with his 4 month old German Shepherd puppy by his side.
Birker2020
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Because I didn't realise she was five. I've said twice now that I thought she was two. This is because twice the advert states she is two. They have obviously made a mistake that's all.
shortstuff99
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I actually know this dealer (and have bought from them)! They really don't do that much when they back, just forwards, stop, turn and a little pop then sell, so I wouldn't think it has been over done at all.
Birker2020
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She probably hasn't as she is five and not two
JackFrost
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A question please. When horses are advertised at this time of year, are they stated at their actual age/ rising age/could be either?
Obvs you would check if you were actually buying, but is there a standard practice?
Obvs you would check if you were actually buying, but is there a standard practice?
shortstuff99
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Yes I knew she was 5, but even for a 5 year old I bet she hasn't done much at all.She probably hasn't as she is five and not two
ihatework
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People who know what they are doing will advertise them as their age as of 1st January for the coming year. So 2016 would be a 5yo
Birker2020
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But as horses require passports to be produced when they are sold why do they not sell them as the age stated on their passport? That's what I don't get.
As an example my horses DOB is 08.04.97 so today he is 24.
Once it's past 1st Jan of that year surely you would state 'rising 24 year old?'
AFB
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For competition purposes it's 1st Jan, not passported DOB.
Bellaboo18
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Nice horse....and clearly not 2
Birker2020
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Gosh I bet this causes confusion.
CanteringCarrot
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Gosh I bet this causes confusion.
How?
LEC
Opinions are like bum holes, everyone has one.
not really as always been this way. I hate the term rising. I have an August horse but she is always aged at what age she is on 1st Jan.Gosh I bet this causes confusion.
PSD
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Gosh I bet this causes confusion.
Quite the opposite. It makes every horse the same age from the 1st jan to avoid any confusion when showing and competing. My fells DOB is June but she’s 3 on 1st Jan. that’s why many breeders are breeding earlier in the year now.
JackFrost
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And the people who don't know what they're doing?? ?
I see lots of family horse types advertised, so not competition or racehorses. Very few ads make clear if a '4' year old is say, 3 and nearly 4, or 4 going on 5. As LEC says they aren't all born at the same time. Particularly with young horses, it's useful to know their actual age and a year is a big difference.
sport horse
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Gosh I bet this causes confusion.
ALL horses are deemed to be one year older on 1st January each year and it has been thus for years and years. the only confusion is when people decide for themselves that their horse will not become a certain age on 1st January but wait until its actual date of birth.
Imagine the confusion in sports events and racing if 3 year olds suddenly became 4 randomly throughout the year. What would happen if a 5 year old horse qualified for a 5 yar old championship but ws actually 6 by the time of the championship?!
ihatework
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Well the people who don’t know what they are doing would call a horse born in June 2016 a 4yo!!
I actually don’t have issue with the term rising.
I agree it’s useful to know their age. Which is why it’s useful to have standardised way of advertising their age ie 1st Jan. Then you know a 5yo will be 5 that year and not actually about to turn 6.
JackFrost
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Good point, hadn't thought of that.
The issue I think does have importance. E.g. horse I know with lameness probably caused by being jumped too hard too young, with an estimated passport date based on conventions. Dentist thought was horse was probably much younger than the d.o.b attributed.
sport horse
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Most horses are passported before being weaned from their dams. For any reputable stud book anything pasported after weaning has to have DNA (many require this even when paperwork is done before weaning) so anything that has an 'estimated passport date' whatever that means is probably not a stud book passport and would need careful thought before accepting any of the details contained in that document as fact, rather than fiction.