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In my defence it wasn't a girl that drove the master's pickup into a ditch, nor was it a girl that wrecked a dutch barn with the hunt lorry, nor was it a girl who trashed the topper, or who broke the tractor window on a gatepost...
 

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On the other hand Tony, if you choose to drink and drive secretly then you are nothing more than a nefarious tawdry little criminal and deserve no respect whatsoever. In that instance I hope you end up in the nearest ditch as soon as possible.
 

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I drink drive all the time. The local police officer knows - I often give him a lift back from the pub! He knows we don't pay any attention to the ban as well. Doesn't seem to bother him - he's in the hunt too! (We club together and pay his cap.)

Where's the harm in drink driving? There's no building between the pub and my house other than the staff building and they're expendable anyway.
 

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Mind you I have to say I might have been a little over the limit coming back from the neighbour's at half two last week, still a little hypocrisy isn't such a bad thing and it was across the fields in the old 4X4.
 

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Where's the harm in drink driving?
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*bites tounge* I will not respond, I WILL not respond, I will NOT respond!
 

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Give me your name and a signed statement and I'd take you seriously. I'd be happy to do that regarding my constant breeches of the Hunting Act. Although it might be a little pointless as the chief constable knows any way.

I think the difference between you and I Tony is that for all your bluff, I can get away with it, but you can't.

Let's put it to the test.
 

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The next time you're over the limit and preparing to drive home from a neighbour's, you will of course alert the police first, won't you? You wouldn't want to behave like a nefarious tawdry little criminal!
 

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If drink driving's your game, have a few beers, get in the car and call the police.

Hunting's mine I'd be happy to hunt deer with my dogs in front of the police, they won't do anything to stop me.
 

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If you want to take a public stand against the drink driving laws then let me know when you're drunk in charge of a vehicle and yes I'll give them a ring for you.

I'm going to break the Hunting Act this weekend, will you call the police?

Your personna is slipping Tony, a few comments about menial peasants are needed.
 

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"If drink driving's your game, have a few beers, get in the car and call the police."

So we can pick and choose which is our game? Brilliant. Drink-driving's not my game, nor is wife-beating, environmental pollution, speeding, paying taxes, hiring illegal immigrants as well, of course, as hunting.

Great! I don't have to call the police now when I do these things. I love being a libertarian!
 

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As a libertarian I couldn't care less what you're doing - that's up to you. Similarly, if I choose to drink drive that's up to me. It's called freedom. I don't agree with drink drive laws so I will flout them and it's up to me whether I tell the police about it or not.
 

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Every one can pick and choose what laws they obey. It's then up to the authorities whether they choose to stop them.

Don't blame me if they have laws that they are not prepared to fully enforce.

In mjmy opinion they shouldn't pass laws that they are not prepared to enforce.

I wouldn't shoot people for no good reason because the law says I have to and I won't shoot the animalos I flush out just because the law says I have to. The law is wrong if they aren't prepared to enforce it they either have to put up with people breaking it or change it.
 

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If I want to pour gallons of chemicals used for treating mange in hounds into the local river, as the Beaufort hunt did a few years back, killing 10,000 rare crayfish in the process, I bloody well will do! It's called freedom. No, I won't call the police and tell them about it, because I'll probably get away with it.

I'll do what I want to do as long as I can get away with it. I don't care about anything or anyone except myself.
 

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I'm sure we've all committed the odd misdemeanour, however the difference between the drink driving laws and the Hunting Act is that a large part of the hunting act, such as the prohibition on not shooting flushed out animals, they simply are not prepared to enforce. That's a bad law.
 

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I think you'll find that the only laws that you can repeatedly break publiccly are laws that have something technically wrong with them or one's which the authorities are embarrassed about the consequences of.
 

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"As a libertarian I believe people should be free to drink and drive."

I think your libertarian political theory needs a bit of revision my townie friend !!!!!

The libertarian alliance might be able to help you !!

Being a Libertarian does not mean you can kill people.

But you can do a lot of things that do not harm others.

Try Waterstones.

If you need any more help just ask.
 

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Don't worry - anyone living within the borders of the M25 considers Hampstead Heath to be the countryside. Nobody realised that anywhere outside the M25 really exists. They certainly don't realise that most of the countryside is an open air factory, they think it is some sort of giant play area.
 
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