5 Stage Vetting - What could be flagged?

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Curious as to what is frequently flagged up in 5 stage vetting? What could a horse "fail" on and what what be an "advisory" sort of thing in this horsey MOT?!

Any stories anyone wishes to share?
 
Lameness, making a noise after fast work... would be fails..

An advisory might be something like a splint, or a blemish, or even needing shod...

Millions more than that too... Just off top of my head.

Fiona
 
My friend had to fork out for hock x-rays when her mare failed a flexion test. Nothing at all to see on the x-rays & buyer waited luckily.

Splint was a fail in another purchase I know of - but it was large and warm, so still active.

On an advisory basis I've seen vision problems documented in an ex-polo horse. Apparently that's quite common due to impact from the mallet and the buyer was from that background so wasn't bothered. That was a mare who'd also had her girlie parts stitched up - that was a new one on me when the vet spotted it. Also a polo thing I was told. Never stop learning!!
 
Sarcoids could either be advisory or a fail depending on location, size, age of horse etc.

They'll make a list of any scars/blemishes/conformational faults (eg. pigeon toes), and they can also comment on weight/condition.

They will take into account the age/type of horse, for example they won't expect an 18yo childs pony to have the same response to flexion tests as a 5yo performance horse, but it will likely be noted on the certificate. A friends was told her pony would have failed on flexion if he'd been younger, but his response was normal for a horse of his age and usage, and likely wouldn't affect him in what he was going to do.
 
Any lameness would be flagged, eyes are checked so they could come up, any issues breathing etc after the horse has been worked could be flagged. Obvious confirmation issues.

J had a splint but he was still 'passed', they also noted his melanomas on the vetting and the fact he was unfit.

ETA: They take into account what you want to do with the horse/what you're expecting to get out of the horse too. So what one horse may fail on for one job, another may pass on as the job that the buyer wants for the horse is difference.
 
Lameness, sarcoids. Asymmetry of many types .
I have just bought a horse, two failed vetting before I found this one ,one failed for what was proberly a pelvic issue but he showed a difference in placeing the inside hind leg in the cater trot transition .
The next one failed for DJD in the hocks which the vet found on X-ray this horse was a just started 5yo and it was a very good call from the vet to X-ray the horse was not lame .
I had blind in one eye horses fail one with a serious heart condition, foot pain after the rest section of the vetting - this is the most gutting way to lose the purchase of a horse you like .
 
SEL said:
That was a mare who'd also had her girlie parts stitched up - that was a new one on me when the vet spotted it. Also a polo thing I was told. Never stop learning!!
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It's called a Caslicks - done on mares with less than perfect confirmation in that area - mostly after they've had a foal. Very common in broodmares who have had a few foals and gone a bit floppy. It's done to prevent infection in bits that shouldn't be quite as exposed to the great outdoors as they are.
Never heard of it being a polo thing before
 
Oh no OP, I thought you hadn't long bought him and he was super from what you were posting? (If I've got the right poster that is!) Sorry to hear you're having to sell but fingers crossed for the vetting if you have the right home lined up. As above, sarcoids, lameness, eye/heart problems etc could all crop up, how much of an impact it has will depend on the horse and what the prospective buyers want to do with him
 
chaps89 said:
Oh no OP, I thought you hadn't long bought him and he was super from what you were posting? (If I've got the right poster that is!) Sorry to hear you're having to sell but fingers crossed for the vetting if you have the right home lined up. As above, sarcoids, lameness, eye/heart problems etc could all crop up, how much of an impact it has will depend on the horse and what the prospective buyers want to do with him
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Long story short, had a bit of a mental breakdown, signed off for a while, then left financially in a horrendous place. Couldn't cope with my job, quit, loaned him out to a lovely man (who unfortunately cant afford to buy him and as much as I wish I could be, I'm not a charity), gone back to college as an adult with the aim of a career change so I'm doing right by him and finding him a wonderful forever home (which this looks to be) so my heart is very invested in this vetting. x
 
I'm sorry you've had such a horrible turn of events OP. I remember how excited you were to have him and also when you posted the link to see what we all made of him how I thought he'd be perfect for my mum! All the best with the sale and career change x
 
chaps89 said:
I'm sorry you've had such a horrible turn of events OP. I remember how excited you were to have him and also when you posted the link to see what we all made of him how I thought he'd be perfect for my mum! All the best with the sale and career change x
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Seconded... sorry to hear you've had a rough time OP, hope everything starts to pick up for you x
 
Oh no! Sorry to hear you've got to sell OP. I too remember you posting about him when you first got him.

Hope things start looking up for you x
 
I had advisories on extreme obesity (which I knew and was prepared for) and probable sidebone, which was more of a surprise. Given the horse's history of lameness on that leg, which the owner had put down to it being a white hoof, I walked away.

Best of luck with the sale and your career change, OP.
 
Auslander said:
It's called a Caslicks - done on mares with less than perfect confirmation in that area - mostly after they've had a foal. Very common in broodmares who have had a few foals and gone a bit floppy. It's done to prevent infection in bits that shouldn't be quite as exposed to the great outdoors as they are.
Never heard of it being a polo thing before
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Yes most likely been at stud and failed to conceive ! Note for future! there would have been no need to cut it.
 
Anything - that is why a buyer pays a vet a good sum of money to give a full examination. Although I suppose that most fails would be lameness problems. And it depends on what the buyer wants, that is why it is examined on the basis of suitablilty for purpose rather than the old fashioned pass or fail.

I was buying a 7 year old pony that failed on a bad heart - I was in tears as she was lovely. Eye problems, sometimes just noted (my eventer had that noted).
 
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