I love watching Parelli! I like yelling at the screen and screaming abuse. Its fun
Also for people who are against whips, you can buy a 'carrot stick' and pretend its something special and pretend your horse can tell the difference!
Its great for people who love throwing money away- go buy some parelli DVD's. Then the cowboy scum can tell you 'parelli secrets' that you already know as common sense!
"cowboy scum" is an unnecessarily unpleasant comment IMO.
To each their own. There are some useful concepts that Parelli use, particularly some of the cues from the ground. Take what you like and forget the rest, same as the BHS/Monty/etc..
I wouldnt say I do any parelli in the slightest but some of the basics is just common sense really. I've seen a few of the programmes on H+C tv and think a lot of it is rubbish like using a big green ball and a carrot stick. I dont want my horse to fear a big stick and move away from it. I have also tried stopping my horse who likes to tank in canter by stopping my body and it really doesnt work!
But a good comment about it is they make lots of money. I know how expensive their stuff is. Total rip off really. I worked at their stoneleigh office for a few weeks then they decided they didnt need 2 office juniors and kept the one who did parelli with her horse and sacked me who didnt have a horse at the time. Im not bitter though! Pay was crap and I now have a better job with better pay and was able to buy my pretty pony.
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Post hijaking again, so how is this any different to monty roberts' methods?
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I don't particularly like monty roberts either as I think he's a bit of a cowboy. However, even though she was trained by MR, I find Kelly Marks alot easier to stomach. I don't follow her religiously, but sometimes I have found her books useful....
"To each their own. There are some useful concepts that Parelli use, particularly some of the cues from the ground. Take what you like and forget the rest, same as the BHS/Monty/etc.."
I'm with you Digger. Not all the BHS/Monty etc stuff appeals to me either.........but why should it be all about the riding???? The best trained horses have had hours of groundwork put in as well as ridden work. I kind of agree that most NH is common sense and was taught as "normal" by a lot of the old instructors. Parelli does advocate riding - not just groundwork though, but he insists that you feel safe doing it, which I think is wise. Too many folk are pushed by instructors to do things that they don't feel ready for and then have stupid accidents.
I think his heart is in the right place, am thinking that a better place for his wallet would be in my pocket.....
parelli is just a twat. i much prefer monty tbh because he seems to have actual talent for it instead of just trying to make money.. i would never go for the whole natural horsemanship thing myself tho..
On a real note, not a p**s take one, if you want to give it a go then try borrowing the stuff rather than buying it. I know I'd lend my vids and guide books out , the rope halter will hardly break the bank and the carrot stick could be improvised. Then if it is right for you then you can start to invest, take from it as much or as little as you like and it won't cost you much.
There you go, take a risk and try it, you never know, you might even enjoy it depsite yourself!!! I'd dare you to own up to it though on here. I worked that one out quite quickly.
You want to see an effective marketing machiune, look at the BHS!!
Over £50 for a Riding and Road Safety exam and they don't even pay the examiners. All that money to send a list of entrants to the exam centre than post certificates to those who pass. What a machine!!
If we were to reject every organisiation that made money out of us we'd be on our own. Good for them I say, wish I could do the same.
Monty roberts is based on 'join up' with the idea being to send the horse away from you then get it to want to be with you rather than without, I think (please correct me if I am wrong) whereas parelli is more about teaching subtler communication through pressure and release, ie ask nicely then gradually more until they do what you have asked then release the ask (pressure) and reward by rubbing their favourite spots(friendly game). The idea being that you gradually need to ask less and less and become much more subtle with your communication. A very simplified explanation but one which will do I'm sure. As with any method, you know how you like to work and interact with your horse and you'll know which ones suit or not.
Certainly have your opinions but tone it a little with at least the use of *** to tame it. As regards the talent. They both are phenominally talented horse people and if you have watched either of them you would have to agreee. However, I personally do not like the Monty way as i won't send my horse away unless he has done something wrong so can't imagine starting a training session that way.
I would love to know the answer to that one aswell. They are sooo passionately anti that they must have had some enormously negative experience but all I have really gleaned is that dislike of the money the parelli's have made?
Please feel free to explain folks, I'd be interested to know.
Out of interest, how do you make your horse do something he doesn't want to do?
I'd be amazed if people on here could honestly say they have never hit their horse with their hand, whip, rope etc when it hasn't done what it was asked. Parelli is not different it is just that the 'hitting' part comes late on in a gradually amplifying request. gentle touch to ask the horse to move from the pressure, then prod if no joy and so on until it moves. Once it gets the idea most horses will respond to the much lighter requests and you have a calmer relationship and subtler communication, surely that's what we all want in the end, via parelli or otherwise. Mostly the carrot stick is just an extension of your hand and isn't used to hit with. My boy loves his and the fact it makes a damn fine scratcher! He certainly is not at all afraid of it.
I got involved with Parelli when my horses had to have the winter off with a skin problem. He was bored and so was I so we gave it a try. We both really enjoyed it, never went beyond the ground work on the line but boy did it improve our relationship. I am not saying we didn't get on well before, quite the contrary but I would say it added a huge amount and helped to make the attentive and responsive boy I love to bits.
I certainly don't live my life the parelli way but it has altered the way I work on the ground to some extent and anything that makes you better should be taken on board be it IH, Monty Roberts, Parelli of BHS training or even simply learning by common sense and experience.