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With everything going on with my youngster over the summer we decided to park the hunt for the third horse until the new year, with the occasional flick through horsequest. Well, new year is now fast approaching and with both mine due home in February I’m beginning to think I should start getting my ducks in a row.

Currently I have two warmblood boys, my youngster who is unlikely to be more than a light hack/pet now and my 11yo dutchie who truth be told is probably a bit too sharp for me, but was bought after losing my horse in a million so I opted for buying the complete opposite of my usual type as everything was a bit too raw at the time. We’re muddling through and when it’s going right my god does it feel amazing, but I miss carefree hacking and schooling without feeling like I need someone on lookout in case I need peeling off the floor ?

With the horses at home I’ve also found my ridden confidence isn’t quite what it used to be, exacerbated by my current lack of riding fitness which means my old reliable core isn’t quite as quick to engage as I’m used to ? My ridden boy is currently with my trainer and we commence boot camp at the weekend so I’m hoping to be back to my usual confident self by the time we bring the new one home and my trainer has already agreed to a fair bit of handholding to help us on our way when the time comes.

In terms of the third horse, my current thinking is to underhorse myself and err more on the sane/sensible side than my usual neurotic beasties, but go for something younger so I still get the challenge/enjoyment of bringing them on up the levels. I’m thinking something that’s w/t/c and happily hacking but not necessarily much more established than that.

I’m fairly certain I don’t want another warmblood as as much as I adore my vet, I don’t think my heart/bank balance/sanity can take another with soundness issues. I know there are no guarantees with any horses, but I’ve certainly found myself having the vet on speed dial more since I moved to the warmblooded side of life so this time around I’m thinking something with a fair bit of Irish blood with perhaps a dash of WB. My usual type is 15.2/3 and short backed but fairly big moving. My main focus is dressage and having given up my dreams of taking my current youngster up the levels, I’m looking for something that can help fill the void. I like my horses to have a varied life so do plenty of hacking, clinics, pole work and the odd sponsored ride and would love to find someone who might convince me to take my hooves off the ground once in a while.

As an adult I’ve always had warmbloods so I’m a bit lost as to how to start my search now the usual parameters are gone. So if you were looking for something that fit the above with a budget of around £15k what would you look for, who would you speak to etc.?
 

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Ah see, I’d erred away from Welsh x as I thought I’d still end up with something fairly sharp/hot headed and I’m hoping this one might be sane enough to let the odd rusty friend hop on for a hack every once in a while.

You can get sharp in any breed!
Don’t rule them out, some of the best horses I’ve known have been Welsh part bred
 

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Cob or Spanish horse. I would lean more for cob though as a really fun allrounder.

I’ve definitely been tempted by something Spanish, but feel I probably need to sit on one first to see if they’re my cup of tea and don’t feel it’s fair to use a viewing as a test ride. Might need to see if anywhere nearby offers lessons on one.
 

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You can get sharp in any breed!
Don’t rule them out, some of the best horses I’ve known have been Welsh part bred

I know, I know you’re totally right. I’m just feeling a bit lost as I very much have a usual type, it just doesn’t seem to be very good for my sanity/bank balance ?
 

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What about an overheight Connie? You could go over to Ireland for the sales...

I did consider an overheight connie, mainly because I spied a big connie x the other day on one of the sights. Definitely an option but not sure I’d be brave enough to buy through the sales.
 

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I’ve definitely been tempted by something Spanish, but feel I probably need to sit on one first to see if they’re my cup of tea and don’t feel it’s fair to use a viewing as a test ride. Might need to see if anywhere nearby offers lessons on one.
You're Norfolk way aren't you? There are a few studs around there but not sure of lessons. Sylvia Loch is in Suffolk and gives lessons on her advanced lusitano.
 

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Why not simply look for the horse, rather than the breed?

Trust me I am, my question was more what would you look for and where? My breed examples were to give a steer of my usual type and what I’m looking for/to avoid with the new horse. I’m just a bit lost as up til now it’s been a case of if I buy a small German WB of certain breeding I know they’re likely to be my cup of tea and now there’s a whole world of horses out there and it’s all a bit daunting.
 

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I would take a look at Kirsten Mayne Dressage and Peak Performance Horses, they are based Cambridge/Bedford and they both sell/source warmbloods and Iberian horses for dressage and might be worth contacting. I know them both and would say they find some really nice horses.
 

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I'm going to throw Haflinger in the ring ;)

Not for everyone or the faint hearted, but my girl is honestly the easiest and most honest horse I've had. I can do anything with her from cantering bareback up a field full of loose horses or taking her out cross country. Plus she is showing a fair bit of dressage talent as well. The modern Haflingers are taller and have lovely movement, but still hardy enough. Plus you would have a better selection of them in Europe/UK than we do here in Aus.

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ETA: She is my first non-TB. I bought her after losing my beloved mare, and when my current TB started telling me something was wrong. I'm sorry about your youngster, I remember reading when you bought him and how excited you were. Bloody horses o_O
 

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Sounds like a good plan if you’re after something with a steady temperament decent paces but is a bit younger that you are ok to bring on. Should get something less eye wateringly expensive than a finished rock solid unicorn at least! You could get a diamond in the rough that proves to be more than you might initially have thought but if not there is a decent chance you have improved it and could sell it on.
 

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I'm going to throw Haflinger in the ring ;)

Not for everyone or the faint hearted, but my girl is honestly the easiest and most honest horse I've had. I can do anything with her from cantering bareback up a field full of loose horses or taking her out cross country. Plus she is showing a fair bit of dressage talent as well. The modern Haflingers are taller and have lovely movement, but still hardy enough. Plus you would have a better selection of them in Europe/UK than we do here in Aus.

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ETA: She is my first non-TB. I bought her after losing my beloved mare, and when my current TB started telling me something was wrong. I'm sorry about your youngster, I remember reading when you bought him and how excited you were. Bloody horses o_O

Your girl looks lovely, but I have a friend with a haffy that has put me off for life ? (I know, I know I shouldn’t tar everything with the same brush but the few I’ve met have been fairly similar)

I’m beyond devastated about my youngster as he’s honestly the loveliest boy. I’m just so glad I have the option to give him a pampered life as a very handsome lawnmower if needed.
 

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Sounds like a good plan if you’re after something with a steady temperament decent paces but is a bit younger that you are ok to bring on. Should get something less eye wateringly expensive than a finished rock solid unicorn at least! You could get a diamond in the rough that proves to be more than you might initially have thought but if not there is a decent chance you have improved it and could sell it on.

That’s definitely the hope. I really enjoy the process of schooling on, so hoping I can find something a bit saner than my usual type but still with a bit of something about them.
 

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I'm going to throw Haflinger in the ring ;)

Not for everyone or the faint hearted, but my girl is honestly the easiest and most honest horse I've had. I can do anything with her from cantering bareback up a field full of loose horses or taking her out cross country. Plus she is showing a fair bit of dressage talent as well. The modern Haflingers are taller and have lovely movement, but still hardy enough. Plus you would have a better selection of them in Europe/UK than we do here in Aus.

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ETA: She is my first non-TB. I bought her after losing my beloved mare, and when my current TB started telling me something was wrong. I'm sorry about your youngster, I remember reading when you bought him and how excited you were. Bloody horses o_O

i agree with the haflinger. Just bought my second and both of mine have the most amazing temperament. (I did panic after seeing a thread on ‘terrible haflingers’ Just after I bought my second) the first one was super respectful and loved her work. (She was a hack only with me but did endurance in Germany). Second is the sweetest funniest little thing. She probably isn’t the best mover but I see a lot of haflingers doing dressage online now and your budget is far better than mine. Both mine felt very athletic.
@Northern yours is very pretty!
 

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Have to say, I’ve never met an entirely straightforward connemara ?.

Actually one that I lost, Basil, was- but only from the age of about 7. And he was an absolute pig to hunt.

I’d be looking at a Connie x!!

Haha I had a connie many years back and he certainly had an opinion about most things!
 

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Must be something about Haflingers because I've also met a couple that have put me off for life. Pig headed and ornery. However I rode some lovely ones when I was on holiday in Austria.

That was my experience too, but I have friends who love them. I’ve concluded they’re the horse equivalent of marmite.
 

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My nerves/bank balance/age couldn't cope with more WBs. I have a conniexID and am having the time of my life. He is 15'1 and I am 5'2 and I look small on him. I can gallop across open spaces, jump little jumps (he can do big jumps but thats not for me but as I hadn't jumped for 20 years any jump is amazing) and his flatwork is coming on a treat. No more flashy WB for me! Horse in avatar retired at 8yrs:(
 

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i agree with the haflinger. Just bought my second and both of mine have the most amazing temperament. (I did panic after seeing a thread on ‘terrible haflingers’ Just after I bought my second) the first one was super respectful and loved her work. (She was a hack only with me but did endurance in Germany). Second is the sweetest funniest little thing. She probably isn’t the best mover but I see a lot of haflingers doing dressage online now and your budget is far better than mine. Both mine felt very athletic.
@Northern yours is very pretty!

For me I think the paces would be an issue, at least based on the ones I’ve ridden as they’ve felt very ponyish in terms of stride, which I find quite jarring to ride.

My absolute dream would be to eventually get to PSG, but realistically I’m probably looking for something with the potential to school up to at least advanced medium.
 

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My nerves/bank balance/age couldn't cope with more WBs. I have a conniexID and am having the time of my life. He is 15'1 and I am 5'2 and I look small on him. I can gallop across open spaces, jump little jumps (he can do big jumps but thats not for me but as I hadn't jumped for 20 years any jump is amazing) and his flatwork is coming on a treat. No more flashy WB for me! Horse in avatar retired at 8yrs:(

I’m so sorry you’ve had a similar experience. I love the feel of them but after a rough few years of heartbreak I can’t deal with the anxiety they bring. Your boy sounds like exactly the type I’m looking for. Did you find it strange transitioning from a flashy WB to something presumably smaller?
 

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I’m so sorry you’ve had a similar experience. I love the feel of them but after a rough few years of heartbreak I can’t deal with the anxiety they bring. Your boy sounds like exactly the type I’m looking for. Did you find it strange transitioning from a flashy WB to something presumably smaller?
Yes it was a shock but a very pleasant one. A smaller stride is much easier to ride and the lack of air bourne acrobatics is an absolute delight. Highly recommend a native cross with a bit of something about them. Grooming and rugging up much easier too just because he is smaller. I'm glad I had the chance to ride a massive striding floaty horse and the feeling you get is amazing - when its going well........
 

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That was my experience too, but I have friends who love them. I’ve concluded they’re the horse equivalent of marmite.

I think I hit the jackpot with mine, she has never been anything other than willing. However I do think she is a rarity, the majority of Haflingers around here lounge around in paddocks getting fat because unsuitable people buy them expecting them to be easy!
 
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