A question about giving notice at a yard.

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So I gave my YO notice. We do not have any contract in place. We pay monthly. I have already paid up until the end of the month. I am moving because my Horse is quite unhappy there. My YO wants a months notice (so 15th Feb) she then wants an extra £50 (for the first 2 weeks)

I am not asking for this months rent back. I just want out (new yard can take me at the weekend, its her old yard and I can't wait to get her back there so she can chill) however I do not think I should pay the extra £50 considering we don't even have a contract. I also do not want to stay for another month. I can not turn out as shes so distressed. She has now broken out her field twice and last time ran into another field and got kicked.

What would you do?

Just to add, another livery left and she did not give a months notice.
 
I am the worlds most honest person but I still can't see that with no contract in place you are doing anything wrong with leaving now and paying up until the end of the month. She will make money as you have paid for 2 weeks livery you won't use.
 
That was my thoughts. She can rent out the stable and get double. I am not askin for this months rent back. I wouldn't do that. But don't see why I should have to leave an unhappy Horse there for another month and then pay an extra 2 weeks worth:s
 
Will be obvious. My friend is picking me up in her lorry. But its a very busy yard, people are always there! I have a private tack room, but I will be taking my saddle home just incase.
 
If I'm understanding your post correctly you haven't given a months notice, you've given two weeks notice? And the 'extra' £50 isn't extra, it's the payment for the notice period up till 15th Feb?
 
With no contract in place I only ever give YOs a weeks notice. If I've had to pay livery monthly, I give my notice one week before its due to run out. I don't care about the moral rights and wrongs of it, I just want to protect my horse from YOs with bad attitude taking it out on them. It's amazing how many of them dramatically reduce standards of care when they know the horse is moving.
 
Yes, a month's notice would be up to the 15th Feb, so don't get the two extra weeks thing.

I think its polite to give a month's notice. I have always done in the past. When I had DIYs some didn't, but they were pretty selfish people in general.

You have to look at it from the other angle - how would you feel if you were given a week or so to leave... There is no guarantee that she will fill your stable. In any other walk of like, houses, garages, allotments etc, you give a month's notice. Why should it be different with a stable?
 
With my liveries their contract stipulates 1 mnth from either side.

I ask for payment 1 mnth in advance, so that once notice is given, no money is owing. However if a livery leaves before that month is up, I would not refund the difference as it is their choice to leave early.
 
Take all your things you don't need then get out asap. YO can get quite pathetic and petty when they're being like this. I know a lot of people who have had tack taken hostage by YO's when they tried to leave to get a bit of extra cash out of you. With no contract, it's good your even giving that much notice, I'd pick up and leave after a week if there was no contract to stop me.
 
Of course you must give a months notice. Your contract is either verbal or implied, and should be adhered to. I'm amazed anyone would advise otherwise.
 
Amymay, I was never told this anyway. Another livery left and only gave a weeks notice. Standerds of care won't drop as it is DIY so I do everything myself.
 
Must admit if paid monthly I presume a months notice needed. I am at diy,no contract. YO has put up a sign saying one months notice is required now tho. Think he had a few folk giving a week.
YOs do talk to each other so depends if you want a chance of that happening.Only know this cos a livery was coming to a yard I was on and YO wife said 'oh we called so and so(old livery yard)o and asked what they were like before they came'.
Me- I would probably pay the month and just go.You never know if you may have to come back that way.I have never left a yard on a bad note yet and could go back to any I think- - there are a few wouldn't go back to though!lol
 
Just leave. Do not even think about handing over any more money! You have no contract and so no legal obligation to give any notice. Don't be conned out of more money, your YO is perhaps just sour at losing another livery.
 
I can't believe how many of you would intend not to pay notice!! OP for the sake of 50 quid pay it, keep schtum and leave. The horse world is small and you never know how your actions may bite you on the backside down the line
 
LaurenBay said:
Amymay, I was never told this anyway. Another livery left and only gave a weeks notice. Standerds of care won't drop as it is DIY so I do everything myself.
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Point is that it is just the done thing.

So you are giving two weeks notice then and she isn't asking for an 'extra' two weeks money. Whatever you think of the place now it might not be worth burning your bridges. Can't believe anyone would attempt to play dumb about the generally unwritten rule of one months notice. Some rules go unsaid and just help the horsey world go round!
 
Orls said:
Just leave. Do not even think about handing over any more money! You have no contract and so no legal obligation to give any notice. Don't be conned out of more money, your YO is perhaps just sour at losing another livery.
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Conned? What a ridiculous approach, this isn't a particularly mature outlook.
 
ihatework said:
I can't believe how many of you would intend not to pay notice!! OP for the sake of 50 quid pay it, keep schtum and leave. The horse world is small and you never know how your actions may bite you on the backside down the line
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Agree, and with amymay. The convention is that the period of payment (a week or a month) is the same as the notice period.
 
I am leaving my yard. I have no contract. It would be easier if I could leave earlier but I am on full livery and have paid a months notice and its a lot of money to just loose. It's just the "done" thing contract or not.
 
Its not really about the money. its more I don't want to keep my u happy Horse there for another month. She has now been in since Sat.
 
LaurenBay said:
Its not really about the money. its more I don't want to keep my u happy Horse there for another month. She has now been in since Sat.
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You don't have to leave your horse there, just pay the one months notice and take your horse whenever is convenient to you within that time. I agree with others, YO is not asking for an 'extra' two weeks money, just the one months notice money.
 
Ah fair enough Lauren.

Now what do you think everyone's response on here would have been if you'd posted that your YO had given you notice to quit and given you a day to get off the yard??? (After all you are saying no contract is on place, so the assumption is that they cam do what they like....)

The response would have been outrage. It would also have been pointed out to you that as you pay a month in advance an agreement was in place, and legally the YO couldn't do that.
 
You don't keep her there, pay the month and you are free to go when you like in that period but have followed the unwritten rules of livery and haven't burnt your bridges!
 
Glad there are still people with manners around, who respect contracts, whether verbal or on paper. I was starting to despair!

If its not about the money (and two weeks DIY is nothing anyway) just pay what you owe (to mid Feb) and go. Thats what I did when I moved my horse home from livery. I paid for 3 weeks that I wasn't there, so what, its hardly a fortune, and the YO and I still smile and have a chat when we pass/meet at shows etc. £60 for a lot of good feeling rather than skulking around..;)
 
amymay said:
Of course you must give a months notice. Your contract is either verbal or implied, and should be adhered to. I'm amazed anyone would advise otherwise.
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A months notice is usually required, but if the horse is unhappy it would be my first priority to get it out of there. I would pay the month, no longer, but remove the horse within a week if possible.
 
AhhhI completly got the wrong end of the stick here! Opps. I can infact leave whenever. Sorry its been a very very long week (and we are only on day 2) aslong as I pay the £50.
 
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