A Weighty Issue....

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I appologise in advance as this is going to be a bit of a rant, so sorry to anyone I inadvertantly offend or upset.

Im getting more and more upset and worked up about the whole weight issue, and it has been winding me up for some time, so please forgive my minor spluge, I may not even make sense!

My Fell mare came to me vastly obese, I have worked really really hard to get the weight off her in the 3 years I have had her, and it is a constant battle to keep her at the weight she is now - 483kg - so to be told that my heavy weight cob, with 11 inches of bone and a huge Fell arse is STILL overweight and needs to lose anotherr 50kg at least drives me insane!
She would look thin and unwell at 400kg, just like I would look emaciated and ill at my 'target' weight of 10 stone - I was anorexic and weighed 11 stone fgs! Just beacause 'your' 14.2 tb x is 400kg DOESNT mean that my 14.2 FELL should be!

Likewise when the vet tells me that my mare is too fat at 483kg, but says NOTHING about the 600kg monstrosity where I work (same type/height/age etc) please do forgive me if my brain squishes out of my ears!

I completely and utterly understand that a fat horse is just as at risk as a thin horse, and that being overweight is a serious issue, Im the 1st to look in any given show ring and die at the horse with the red rossette rolling round the arena in 'show condition', but I am heartily sick of the one rule for one, and one for another scenario played out over and over ad-infinitum.

I have been told by my boss that I dont feed enough, by some on here that I feed too much and by others (on here and in RL) that Im doing just fine, I have gone from being confident in my 20 years of horse experience to feeling that I should ask someones advice every time my horse farts differently.
To be honest, I feel like Im a dreadful owner causing my mares and the unborn foal untold damage and should never be let near an animal of any sort ever again.

I really feel that there is too much emphasis placed on an equines weight at the moment, surely if your horse is happy, looks well and you are enjoying it, if it is carrying a few extra pounds (and I DO mean a few, I DO NOT in any way condone horse owners allowing their horse to become obese) then is there really a huge harm?
I spend so much time faffing about with electric fencing, weight tapes and condition scoring my 2 girls that all enjoyment has gone out of being with them just for the sake of it as Im so paranoid about whether I am doing the right thing giving them 2 polo's instead of 1!
So.....I think Im done, I may not have made sense, and Im sure that some of the posters on here will lambast me severely, but thats how I feel, fed up, useless and scrutinised down to the last pony nut.

*Breathe*
 
Go to kitchen, make a cuppa - and open a packet of biscuits missy!
Sit down - dunk a couple, save the rest for another day :cool:
Chill - you/we all need a hide like a rhino these days to 'cope' with some horsey people.

I got told yesterday by person who rent's next door yard that I was feeding too much to mine. Both are native type build mares (one 15.1 & aged 7, the other 12.2 & coming 27). However - she hasn't seen either of them without rugs.....

When I asked 'why too much' - she said they were too fat :rolleyes: When I pointed out about them both wearing NZ's, she then got rather red faced - I tried to press home the point, but she had to answer her mobile.
Mind you, she is very experienced in keeping horses....... :rolleyes:

FYI, They have a small bucket of grub am & pm so I can check them over at the same time (and I do mean small) and they are both having a small bit of hay over night too. They actually look spot on - tho the Pie could poss do with a bit more, but as she's only been here a month and needed to settle I think the weight will pop back on easily when it needs to.

Good luck - and enjoy the biscuits!:D
 
I own a fell mare too, so feel your pain!

At the end of the day it is somebody's opinion, and just that, an opinion. If you know that your mare has lost weight while you've owned her and you are constantly monitoring her weight then try not to take it personally, as hard as it is. Your mare is healthy which is great, and this cold snap will probably help to burn a few extra calories, mine tends to drop weight as the winter goes on.

The best thing I think is to try to view your pony with 'fresh' unbiased eyes yourself and do a proper condition score being totally honest, mine is thin over her ribs but holds weight on her neck and backside, so although at times she can look ribby, she's actually still overweight on a condition score.:(

Once you are happy that her weight is okay or she needs to drop some then feed accordingly, and don't listen to too many opinions or it will drive you mad! ;)
 
I know what you mean. Fany is a draft horse but she is also 14-2hh so people do not realise that she should be heavy. I have slimmed her down since we first bought her as she was obese. she is now perfect, but we still get the odd comment. I told her that she will have to have a sign hung round her neck saying " I am a draft horse, not a TB. I am meant to be a big girl!" :p

Don't worry if your mare is fit and healthy, no problems.:)

FDC
 
Go to kitchen, make a cuppa - and open a packet of biscuits missy!
Sit down - dunk a couple, save the rest for another day :cool:
Chill - you/we all need a hide like a rhino these days to 'cope' with some horsey people.

Good luck - and enjoy the biscuits!:D

Thank you! I think I just needed to get it off my chest before my eyes popped out with the pressure of it all!
I have choc caramel digestives...and I might eat them all! x

Thanks FDC, Touchstone and Rowenna, you all replied whilst I was!
Ill find some old pics of the girls - and some new ones!
 
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My 3 nearly 4 year old is as heavy as his ever been, but is not over weight. Like that, sick of everybody having an opionion. He has stopped growing, for the minute, so has put on a bit of condition, but he'll grow another bit and even out. I havn't a blade of grass left, so have to feed them, they get hay in the field and a little feed morning and evening, as well as hay in the stable. The 2 yearlings are still a bit skinny for my liking, but as they are growing, and are well fed and dosed, i'm not worried. my Spirit, is a funny kind of gelding anyway, he's 14.3 1/2 at the moment, with a short body, big head, shortish thick neck, deep girth. sounds ugly but is pretty. I dont like "fat" horses, it makes me sick, so he's not fat, but maybe he's carrying a few extra pounds. he's recently been ridden, and i'm going to ride him myself for first time next week (I'll prob be back here next week with broken limbs). So, he's going to drop his few pounds. I dont over feed him, but on my father in laws advice, which i agree with, "you don't starve a horse to ride him, as soon as you feed him, he'll go nuts, but if you feed them properly from the start, and then ride him, and maybe fall off a time or two, once you get it right, it's right for life". I believe it - it makes sense.
Anyway, getting back to it, dont be listening to crap advice, you know your horse, so go with what feels right, and feck the obese "people", that win ribbons - it's not right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
It is very difficult... no, it's impossible to please everyone.

My mare got a bit thin for my liking one winter, so I upped her food and she soon looked better in my eyes, as you could now feel her ribs but not see them. I was very pleased right up until I was told that she looked like a beached whale! I did drop her food a bit to stop her putting anymore on but her tummy really wasn't that huge.
 
I feel your pain too as I am forever worrying about my lads weight too and messing about with electric fencing and worrying about his feet being ok (he has had laminitis).
I am lucky as I am not on a yard so do not have other people giving me their views, but I worry myself so do not need other people!
Just do what you can, keep an eye on things...as you are doing and keep riding as that is the best thing for all 'full bodied' horses.
Wish I had caramel digestives....
 
Melly,

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My god. She was huuuge. I definitely don't see a problem with how she is now so just ignore them. They both look lovely and you've done a brilliant job.
 
she looks fine to me esp if in foal. just limit her bucket food and ration hay she will be fine. interested q how were you anorexic but weighed 11 stone?
 
yes seriously! ponio looks fine to me. just interested.

I meant seriously about the anorexia! I can't imagine not knowing that eating disorders really have nothing to do with weight. But then I think I must be weird as I'm the only person at work who knows how to take a chlamydia test (they are all scientists) Clearly my mother took no precautions to protect me from the world when I was growing up or something! Eek. People probably think I'm a loon or something.
 
I meant seriously about the anorexia! I can't imagine not knowing that eating disorders really have nothing to do with weight. But then I think I must be weird as I'm the only person at work who knows how to take a chlamydia test (they are all scientists) Clearly my mother took no precautions to protect me from the world when I was growing up or something! Eek. People probably think I'm a loon or something.

HEHE this made me chuckle :D
 
HEHE this made me chuckle :D

Well you would expect a bunch of scientists, who know perfectly well what chlamydia can do to you, to have at least taken one test in their lives but apparently not. I felt like a right weirdo explaining no, women don't have to go to the doctor an have a cervical swab, you can do it yourself. What must people think of me?!
 
if you google anorexia it is an eating disorder where the person is unable to maintain a normal body weight. i am interestested how you can be diagnosed as anorexic if weighing 11 stone? cos you would have to be super super tall and broad to be anorexic at 11 stone. maybe i am anorexic too???? although i know mine is from having my nose in the trough a little too often!!!!
 
HAHA who cares what they think ...... At least if you know you will know what to do if the situation ever arose :D You only live once :)
 
if you google anorexia it is an eating disorder where the person is unable to maintain a normal body weight. i am interestested how you can be diagnosed as anorexic if weighing 11 stone? cos you would have to be super super tall and broad to be anorexic at 11 stone. maybe i am anorexic too???? although i know mine is from having my nose in the trough a little too often!!!!

IT depends on whats normal for that person if someone went from 20 stone to 14 stone in 2 weeks thats not normal ?! And therefore they are anorexic
 
Another Fell owner here!! I share your pain about how hard it is with their weight. I frrely admit I used to work for a feed company and dish out advice on a telephone helpline - I know all the theory about grazing muzzles, double holed haynets, weighing your hay, soaking your hay, strip grazing - I've written magazine articles on the stuff! However after getting my boy in Feb and having done a single spring/summer season with him I totally admit that I never appreciated how hard it is to manage a fatty! It's not just calorie control and exercise, it's the logistics and making sure it fits in with your livery yard and work, it's learning to know your horse and where they put weight on so you know where to look. I am paranoid about my boy's weight but we muddle through. Your mare is lovely you've done a great job getting her weight down.

Now for the important question - what is her breeding? My Fell has tiny white socklets on his back legs too! :D :D
 
Another Fell owner here!! I share your pain about how hard it is with their weight. I frrely admit I used to work for a feed company and dish out advice on a telephone helpline - I know all the theory about grazing muzzles, double holed haynets, weighing your hay, soaking your hay, strip grazing - I've written magazine articles on the stuff! However after getting my boy in Feb and having done a single spring/summer season with him I totally admit that I never appreciated how hard it is to manage a fatty! It's not just calorie control and exercise, it's the logistics and making sure it fits in with your livery yard and work, it's learning to know your horse and where they put weight on so you know where to look. I am paranoid about my boy's weight but we muddle through. Your mare is lovely you've done a great job getting her weight down.

Now for the important question - what is her breeding? My Fell has tiny white socklets on his back legs too! :D :D

What breeding is your fell ?? :) I have 5 and my auntie has a herd
 
yep my mare is over weight - a good doer ( daughter looked at her last nght and said "mother your horse defies law of nature cold limited grass and shes getting fatter " lol) and i have constantly worried all summer - was in at nights etc - its winter no rugs same summer rations except extra slice hay if minus - oh im so cruel lol words on yard - but i need her to lose weight for spring - limited to riding due to sight so i juggle balls all time - i just want her to enjoy being a horse but i so worry alll time just worry :(
 
IT depends on whats normal for that person if someone went from 20 stone to 14 stone in 2 weeks thats not normal ?! And therefore they are anorexic


I think it is also, although I could be wrong as I have never suffered myself, in part about having a slightly out of kilter perspective on your weight/body image. If you think you are hideously fat when in fact you are perfectly normal to everyone else and starve yourself as a result etc. If that makes sense?

It isn't about your weight it is all about how you view yourself. That is why it is a psychiatric disorder. Where is a handy psychiatrist when you need one?
 
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