Aaaargh! Old rescue dogs.

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Just posting to say that most rescues will ask for an application form to be filled in before they speak to you. I know you're not a timewaster or dreamer Mrs J but so many are and they take up a huge amount of time with 'general chat'. Also, a completed signed application form protects the rescue if someone has lied about their home situation or experience and it all goes south when a dog is rehomed. It's required for us as part of the risk assessment for insurance cover.

If I was looking for a specific (any tbf) type of dog, I would fill in all the app forms and see what comes up - you're not committing to anything at that point, just opening a dialogue. And many, many dogs are rehomed by rescues without ever being advertised online
 

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Just posting to say that most rescues will ask for an application form to be filled in before they speak to you. I know you're not a timewaster or dreamer Mrs J but so many are and they take up a huge amount of time with 'general chat'. Also, a completed signed application form protects the rescue if someone has lied about their home situation or experience and it all goes south when a dog is rehomed. It's required for us as part of the risk assessment for insurance cover.

If I was looking for a specific (any tbf) type of dog, I would fill in all the app forms and see what comes up - you're not committing to anything at that point, just opening a dialogue. And many, many dogs are rehomed by rescues without ever being advertised online
I don’t see the problem with a form either, tbh. You can decline any dog they offer you if it doesn’t suit.
 

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Just posting to say that most rescues will ask for an application form to be filled in before they speak to you. I know you're not a timewaster or dreamer Mrs J but so many are and they take up a huge amount of time with 'general chat'. Also, a completed signed application form protects the rescue if someone has lied about their home situation or experience and it all goes south when a dog is rehomed. It's required for us as part of the risk assessment for insurance cover.

If I was looking for a specific (any tbf) type of dog, I would fill in all the app forms and see what comes up - you're not committing to anything at that point, just opening a dialogue. And many, many dogs are rehomed by rescues without ever being advertised online
I understand of course that it will be necessary to fill in a formal application at some point if they have a dog that I think might be suitable, and I do not have an issue with that. I do not expect to send a brief message and then breeze up the next day and take the dog home with me! 😊

However, what is the point of wasting their time and mine on paperwork, further follow up from the rescue, further discussion etc. when the answer to 3 brief and straightforward questions by pm will avoid any time wasting on their part or mine?

I do understand your point to a certain extent, but I do strongly believe that a large percentage of rescues are so rigid and treat many possibly suitable new owners in such a dismissive and negative way it just narrows the pool of people looking to rescue. I also realize they are mostly volunteers and do a first class job but sometimes their draconian and unhelpful attitude loses a lot of support along the way.

Anyway, thanks to all for your very helpful input I have several new routes to try now. If rescues fail I will try taking the private rehoming option and forget trying to find and old timer from any of the rescues here. 👍
 

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Can't believe I forgot to mention them! I think from memory though we did fill out a form, it wasn't onerous though, then I had an opportunity to speak on the phone when Karen who runs it about the dog and ask questions about her etc. They're a little bit chaotic but just because they're very busy and all volunteer run. I enjoyed dealing with them and they were normal/realistic and not difficult like some rescues. Said dog is now warming my feet 🥰
 

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I’m not sure if you’re still looking but saw him and thought of this thread
They seem so be doing calls instead of forms
Cavan spca does calls as well now I think if it. When I got my boy I just called
No forms
 

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I’m not sure if you’re still looking but saw him and thought of this thread
They seem so be doing calls instead of forms
Cavan spca does calls as well now I think if it. When I got my boy I just called
No forms

Yes I am still looking, waiting for more news on the other one's heart problems. I did see this but he doesn't like other dogs so wouldn't suit our home here with the two labs unfortunately. But thanks a million for thinking of my search.:)
 
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What a lovely thing to do.
I strongly believe everyone needs a little dog to sit on their laps
I was quite saddened to read your post, I didn’t realise you were unwell 😢
I do hope you find a little terrorist, are there maybe any specific terrier rescues, or might they be full of actual terrorists perhaps 🤷‍♀️
 

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I'd suggest that any serious homes would fill in the form. Those who are put off the form generally are slightly more awkward or won't want to work with the rescue on their other requests so in some ways it weeds them out straight away...

While you may only think you asked 3 simple questions ( are they really simple? Are those questions ref labradors an easy one to answer? I'd say it would take me at least 10-15 minutes to answer those questions about any dog I had vague but not full knowledge of) - what would you do if you got 20-30 similar enquiries ref that dog? i assume the form asks you to describe your living situation so they (who have the dog..) can then judge if it sounds like it's worth taking forward. They also don't have to waste time argueing with you or answering follow up questions when you may not be a serious adopted ( YOU may think you are, but many many people who send a wee message are not).
So - if you like the dog just fill the form in?
 

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I'd suggest that any serious homes would fill in the form. Those who are put off the form generally are slightly more awkward or won't want to work with the rescue on their other requests so in some ways it weeds them out straight away...

While you may only think you asked 3 simple questions ( are they really simple? Are those questions ref labradors an easy one to answer? I'd say it would take me at least 10-15 minutes to answer those questions about any dog I had vague but not full knowledge of) - what would you do if you got 20-30 similar enquiries ref that dog? i assume the form asks you to describe your living situation so they (who have the dog..) can then judge if it sounds like it's worth taking forward. They also don't have to waste time argueing with you or answering follow up questions when you may not be a serious adopted ( YOU may think you are, but many many people who send a wee message are not).
So - if you like the dog just fill the form in?
This has already been discussed thank you. Bit late to jump in yet again on my posts about my dogs with unhelpful comment. Good evening and thank you for input.
 

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Being diplomatic here, I understand that place does not have an amazing reputation.

Their management structure has been restructured and they work within stricter fiscal guidelines. I don't have any personal experience of dealing with them, but I know they have a large supportive following and I believe the animals in their care are well looked after. I think some of their bad rep in the past may have been generated by disgruntled ex staff. Two sides to every story.

That aside, the animals seeking homes are innocent of any wrongdoing, so why deny them a new life because of things outside their control.
 

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Mrs Jingle, have you seen this one (I posted earlier)

Being diplomatic here, I understand that place does not have an amazing reputation.

Thank you so much Colivet and I do agree it is not any animals fault, but I was very heavily involved in the campaigning for the demise of the original so called charity and it cost me dearly to stick with it to the bitter end one way and another . Yes things have changed to a certain extent, but unfortunately the original person is still very involved behind the scenes and in my humble opinion should have been prosecuted for fraud and animal abuse and banned from keeping animals ever again. So on that basis much as that little dog does look absolutely ideal I could not support them in any way. I sincerely hope I have not offended you.:confused:
 

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Thank you so much Colivet and I do agree it is not any animals fault, but I was very heavily involved in the campaigning for the demise of the original so called charity and it cost me dearly to stick with it to the bitter end one way and another . Yes things have changed to a certain extent, but unfortunately the original person is still very involved behind the scenes and in my humble opinion should have been prosecuted for fraud and animal abuse and banned from keeping animals ever again. So on that basis much as that little dog does look absolutely ideal I could not support them in any way. I sincerely hope I have not offended you.:confused:

Not in the least offended Mrs J. You obviously have first hand experience of the circumstances which I do not. I hope you find your ideal companion soon.
 

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That aside, the animals seeking homes are innocent of any wrongdoing, so why deny them a new life because of things outside their control.

I do not mean to derail the thread, but in my own opinion, when one supports certain enterprises 'for the animals', then there is simply no incentive for those enterprises to stop doing what they are doing and ultimately, it is to the detriment of more animals as the cycle is never broken.
 

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What part of Ireland are you from north of south, if you willing to take a risk you could get a dog from the pound very little restrictions .
 

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I am from the south Celtic Jewel. Not sure if that would be wise as they do not come with any background regarding settling with two other larger dogs, house training, level of exercise needed etc. I know often from a rescue it is a relatively brief background but still more of a helpful guide with decision making. Can you imagine having to force yourself to take a poor little mite back to the pound if it didn't work out, I couldn't do it. 😢
 

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Their management structure has been restructured and they work within stricter fiscal guidelines. I don't have any personal experience of dealing with them, but I know they have a large supportive following and I believe the animals in their care are well looked after. I think some of their bad rep in the past may have been generated by disgruntled ex staff. Two sides to every story.

That aside, the animals seeking homes are innocent of any wrongdoing, so why deny them a new life because of things outside their control.
They buy in their animals, do you really believe she goes into the dark world and rescues them, they still dont have planning permission, Kerry pound wont give them any dogs. If you believe what she says on her page well you are gullible. There are dogs there that have been there for 2 years if not longer including Malinois ,GSD & a Dobermann I expect they are all head cases now as having 200 dogs how often do you think they get walked. AHI was formerly AHAR who had their charity number taken from and was the subject of a scathing RTE programme.

The latest is now she is taking in foals, so called as a result of the racing Industry needing the TB mares to go straight back into training so they source cob pony mares with a foal at foot to be the foster mare and the pony foals then either go for dog meat or find their way into the human food chain. Its all a pack of lies, these are travellers foals but people are believing her and sending in donations.

I hope Mrs Jingle gives them a miss, I'm sure there are far better sources for dogs then AHI.
 

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They buy in their animals, do you really believe she goes into the dark world and rescues them, they still dont have planning permission, Kerry pound wont give them any dogs. If you believe what she says on her page well you are gullible. There are dogs there that have been there for 2 years if not longer including Malinois ,GSD & a Dobermann I expect they are all head cases now as having 200 dogs how often do you think they get walked. AHI was formerly AHAR who had their charity number taken from and was the subject of a scathing RTE programme.

The latest is now she is taking in foals, so called as a result of the racing Industry needing the TB mares to go straight back into training so they source cob pony mares with a foal at foot to be the foster mare and the pony foals then either go for dog meat or find their way into the human food chain. Its all a pack of lies, these are travellers foals but people are believing her and sending in donations.

I hope Mrs Jingle gives them a miss, I'm sure there are far better sources for dogs then AHI.

As I said to Mrs Jingle, I don't have personal knowledge of dealing with the organisation and I didn't get involved in this post for any reason other than trying to assist Mrs J in finding a suitable dog to adopt. I have no interest in engaging in a discussion about the merits or lack of merits of the organisation as I have no factual evidence/information from which to form an opinion. I saw an advert which appeared to be a perfect match for Mrs J's needs and shared it. She has graciously explained her reasons for not pursuing it and I understand her reluctance. I sincerely hope she is successful in finding a suitable and deserving companion.
 

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As I said to Mrs Jingle, I don't have personal knowledge of dealing with the organisation and I didn't get involved in this post for any reason other than trying to assist Mrs J in finding a suitable dog to adopt. I have no interest in engaging in a discussion about the merits or lack of merits of the organisation as I have no factual evidence/information from which to form an opinion. I saw an advert which appeared to be a perfect match for Mrs J's needs and shared it. She has graciously explained her reasons for not pursuing it and I understand her reluctance. I sincerely hope she is successful in finding a suitable and deserving companion.
Thank you Colivet an as I said I am extremely grateful for your well meant post pointing out the old dog to me, as you guessed he would have been perfect I have no doubt. I am sorry you were subject to rather an unwanted and unnecessary barrage. It was very obvious you do not have any personal knowledge of the particular rescue and obviously, quite rightly, have no wish to enter into a discussion about it either. Thank you again for your suggestion.
 
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