Abattoir in Cheshire welfare breaches

World horse welfare has a petition up calling for CCTV in abattoirs which I have signed. I'm also not against slaughter but believe it should be as quick and humane as possible. CCTV is in no way a complete answer but may help to spot and tackle bad practice.

Totally agree.
 
Horrific watching.
I had no idea the horses were stunned first. Why?

When the huntsman shot my horse it was quick and very humane.
 
World horse welfare has a petition up calling for CCTV in abattoirs which I have signed. I'm also not against slaughter but believe it should be as quick and humane as possible. CCTV is in no way a complete answer but may help to spot and tackle bad practice.

There are several threads running on this subject already but it may be worth starting a specific thread linking to the petition; I’d certainly sign it.

I used to be totally anti slaughter until I saw the covert footage from Potters, strangely it changed my thinking as all I saw was a quick end executed with compassion and professionalism – there has to be some outlet for these animals because those responsible who keep knocking foals out don’t appear to be getting the message.

Being the other licensed horse abattoir I had assumed Turners operated to the same standards, from that footage sadly not so. Totally gutted this is happening in a UK abattoir and the owners/managers there should hang their heads in shame. A snivelling and hollow apology because they’ve been caught won’t cut it, things need to change!
 
So there's supposed to be an RSPCA inspector at every slaughterhouse right??? presumably to stop this sort of thing happening?

Oh silly me, should have realised........ they've got far more important things to do as they're far more interested in saving some poor fox from destruction.......

Where on earth do you get the idea that there's meant to be an RSPCA inspector at every slaughterhouse?! :confused:
 
I too am shocked and saddened that Turners operate in this way. I've seen the Potters footage in the past which in my opinion was fair and acceptable and assumed Turners were the same.
 
Good times. I don't know about horses but pigs are usually stunned first (a practise I absolutely detest) and far worse things happen to chickens. So it's not an unusual practice by any means.
 
Try watching the youtube video about the australian racehorse 'nature's child', & her killing at an aus slaughterhouse. I've held horses being shot, so not like I'm unexposed to the ullet, but this absolutely sickened me. Free shooting horses either in a shute (in nature's child's case anothr horse in with her) with an ordinary rifle from a distance, it takes him 2 shots. Or the shooting of a horse (they all appear to be tb ex-racers) in a large pen containing about 10 horses running loose, again with a rifle at a dsitance. Horse was then attached by a leg to a vehicle, dragged into the slaughterhouse (says distance of 60m over dirt, gravel & tarmac) where the body is dumped for processing. Trouble is as they film you can see the breath still coming from the horse. I'm not talking gasps after death, it is breathing hard. Then one of the guys realises & comes over with his rifle & shoots it again to actually kill him. If you can afford a horse (or especially racehorse), you'd think they could send it to a humane abbatoir for destruction. Be paid less but make sure it goes with compassion.

Slaughterhouse standards in 'civilised' countries should meet a minimum standard.
 
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Turns out to be Turners if what has been written on here is actauly for real. A slaughterhouse that has been promoted on here for years. A slaughterhouse many on here are happy to send there horses to.

I have read so much on here over the years about sending horses there. So glad mine were done at home by a caring slaughterman. I would rather pay to have a horse shot at home rather for profit and have it put through that.

I hope all those people on here that have used that place has seen where they sent their horse and the reality of it.

This happens in many slaughterhouses to all animals. About time eyes were opened and something permanently done about it. Yes we need these places - but which run under the law, not doing what they want as authorities turn a blind eye until a caring charity exposes them.

I am sorry I had this place on a list I give people to use when there horse has come to the end.
 
I totally understand the need for horse slaughter houses, unfortunately whilst every Tom, dick and Harry breed horses these are needed but the way these horses are delt with is shocking and very wrong !!!!
 
I knew a lady who was hard with her horses. Have to say though, when she sent one of her horses to an abbatoir (used hunts before) for the first time she took it & watched, to make sure things were done respectfully. Thereafter she was happy to use them, but always asked for the tail to be returned to show that nothing untoward had happened like the horse going to market.
 
Turns out to be Turners if what has been written on here is actauly for real. A slaughterhouse that has been promoted on here for years. A slaughterhouse many on here are happy to send there horses to.

I have read so much on here over the years about sending horses there. So glad mine were done at home by a caring slaughterman. I would rather pay to have a horse shot at home rather for profit and have it put through that.

I am sorry I had this place on a list I give people to use when there horse has come to the end.

I've taken a horse to Turners before now and written about it on here and it was a calm, dignified, humane dispatch.

And in response to other posts on here, I wasn't aware that it was being shut down on the back of this - the 2 employees in question have been disciplined (not sure if sacked or not). There are bad employees everywhere - it's just heightened here because it's animals who are unfortunately on the receiving end of their incompetence. At least practices will now be reviewed and improvements put in place.
 
Such a sad and stressful end for those horses which is totally unnecessary and illegal.

Not the only video of horses being mistreated at abbatoirs sadly :(
 
I've taken a horse to Turners before now and written about it on here and it was a calm, dignified, humane dispatch.

And in response to other posts on here, I wasn't aware that it was being shut down on the back of this - the 2 employees in question have been disciplined (not sure if sacked or not). There are bad employees everywhere - it's just heightened here because it's animals who are unfortunately on the receiving end of their incompetence. At least practices will now be reviewed and improvements put in place.

The diciplining should be instant dismissal and they should also be prosecuted for animal cruelty, im sure they knew exactly what they were doing, they knew these horses were suffering and in fact contributed to it, on the news a
" spokesperson " tried to defend more than 1 horse in the chute being stunned saying its sometimes causes less stress, not from what ive seen, and not from the vets view who was observing it, id bloody jail all involved. I'm not naive i realise there needs to be establishments that carry out this work, but this is a disgrace as are the cruel b******s in that video
 
So there's supposed to be an RSPCA inspector at every slaughterhouse right??? presumably to stop this sort of thing happening?

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Thankfully not so. With any abattoir which is killing and processing animals going into the human food chain, then there has to be a representative from the State Veterinary Service (they're generally of Continental origin, and many don't speak a word of English), but it doesn't involve our heros, the rspca! ;) It does however, prompt the question, Where The ***k Was The Vet?

Alec.
 
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Thankfully not so. With any abattoir which is killing and processing animals going into the human food chain, then there has to be a representative from the State Veterinary Service (their generally of Continental origin, and many don't speak a word of English), but it doesn't involve our heros, the rspca! ;) It does however, prompt the question, Where The ***k Was The Vet?

Alec.

Good question
 
I cant help but admire any owner who has the courage of their convictions and stays with their horse right through to the end at a slaughter house.
It seems it is the only way to be sure they are correctly dealt with.
 
I am wholeheartedly appalled that this happens. I'm also appalled that it is still acceptable for the racing industry to keep churning out animals at such a rate in the name of profit. I hope those who turn a blind eye and happily go to the races or bet on the winners will realise they are contributing to this abhorrent situation where animals are treated as nothing more than a means to profit those who don't give a monkey's about the fate of the animals they produce. Don't anybody tell me, as they've tried to before on here, that the racing industry isn't responsible for a huge number of horses surplus to their requirements ending up dying an early, and in this case cruel, death. This is proof. I hope this case gets maximum publicity and we as a country start realising how blissfully ignorant we are to the practises that go on in our civilised nation. :mad: If a society is judged by how it treats its weakest, then we should all be bloody ashamed.
 
While there is unfortunately a need for abbatoirs , as the alternative for some horses would be starvation, neglect etc. there should be rigid control on how slaughter is carried out. This is appalling and makes me feel sick to my stomach. Who was supposed to be inspecting this place?
 
that has to be the tip of the iceberg. they put a camera into one abbatoir and found this on the footage, if we object to this we should object to any animal been treat like this. i really do feel the urge to stop eating meat.
 
tbf they have also put a camera in potters which showed nothing but respect and good handling for the horses and ponies there.
 
Thankfully not so. With any abattoir which is killing and processing animals going into the human food chain, then there has to be a representative from the State Veterinary Service (they're generally of Continental origin, and many don't speak a word of English), but it doesn't involve our heros, the rspca! ;) It does however, prompt the question, Where The ***k Was The Vet?

Alec.


Very much crossed my mind as well. Where was the Vet....!
 
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