About time Olympia had some new rules...

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benson21

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to insist that riders keep their bl00dy hats on whilst riding!!!!:mad::mad::mad:

It makes me soooo angry to see these proffesional riders on some fantastic horses who have sped round these classes, some of them having some bucks after been pushed on, whipping their hats off to the crowd of (some novicy) people who can be very impressionable, getting them thinking its ok to ride with out a hat.

Not wanting to start the great hat debate here, I just think the professionals should set a much better example.







And breathe....
 
It's tradition though. It has always been a sign of respect to doff your hat and it just hasn't completely died yet. I don't look at it that way I don't suppose. Maybe BD should get people in hard hats before show jumpers have to worry about the 30 secs they spend without theirs! :D
 
We go through this every year.

Riders are not made to wear hats even when warming up at European shows, yet their kids are not all braindead vegetables. Funny that.

Perhaps if PARENTS in this country did their jobs, riders wouldn't have to worry about being blamed for what other people's kids got up to.

Are you also suggesting we ban dressage top hats?
 
MunchMincePies said:
We go through this every year.

Riders are not made to wear hats even when warming up at European shows, yet their kids are not all braindead vegetables. Funny that.

Perhaps if PARENTS in this country did their jobs, riders wouldn't have to worry about being blamed for what other people's kids got up to.

Are you also suggesting we ban dressage top hats?
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You're braver than me! I didn't want to say that even though I thought it!
 
Are you also suggesting we ban dressage top hats?


I am suggesting nothing of the sort.
I just think it would be safer and much more sensible to keep a hat on your head when you are on a horse, especially when it has gone through a speed round, bucking after one or two of the fences.
And I do think it is important for professionals to set an example.
 
Let's be honest here - if kids/younger people are naive/stupid/impressionable enough to not wear a hat for the rest of their ridden career because a SJer has their's off for 30 seconds during a lap of honour......then they are clearly too naive/stupid/impressionable to ride/own a horse.

Darwinism at it's best!
 
in the middle.. yes it dangerous if teh horse Is a hot headed thing go around bucking with excitement
but
surely kids watching Know the the pros and only they should do it and i never seen anyone say : Oh ellen took her hat off when shes won imma do it?! :)
 
Should we get the cossack that went all the way under his horse's belly at flat out gallop and get back the other side to wear a hat too??? How about a body protector??? Or should we ban the cossacks altogether because they might give some kid ideas about doing stunts on his shetland pony ( I WAS that kid BTW)??? What about the Household cavalry - some of them were not wearing hard hats...

Where should the Nanny State stop and personal responsibility begin?
 
I dont really think its a nanny state to set a good example, but each to their own.

I dread the day one of these proffessionals come off their horse when they have taken their hat of and gets injured, or, God forbid killed.

Then I dare say we will all be back on here saying what a tradgedy.
 
benson21 said:
I dont really think its a nanny state to set a good example, but each to their own.

I dread the day one of these proffessionals come off their horse when they have taken their hat of and gets injured, or, God forbid killed.

Then I dare say we will all be back on here saying what a tradgedy.
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Yes it would be a tragedy, but we would all know it was done at their own risk. People that choose to ride without a hat are aware of the risks and consequences of doing so.
 
Get over yourself, it has always been done and its highly unlikely to be banned, i doubt many novices will think 'i'll do that too' when they havejust mastered the basics
 
Or "I told you so?" :rolleyes:

You're right, dressage horses are never buzzed up when performing kur, for example, nor are stunt horses buzzed up when galloping across the area, nor cavalry horses when they have guns going off around them. So, their riders should be okay. No falling off and dying for them :D

Benson - just a little food for thought: a lady who lived close to me was kicked in the head and killed by her young horse at a show. She was wearing a beagler. You're not wearing a hat in the photo in your sig... but you're with a horse. Does that make it your fault if, God forbid, a forum member is kicked in the head and killed because they weren't wearing a hat whilst handling their horse? Or would you say that was their risk to take, and a tragic accident?

That fact that show jumpers salute the crowd with their hats off is not any more dangerous than any of the other situations mentioned.
 
We all have the right to our own opinion, mine is to keep hats on. So no, I will not 'get over myself' as I have nothing to get over.
 
You're not wearing a hat in the photo in your sig... but you're with a horse. Does that make it your fault if, God forbid, a forum member is kicked in the head and killed because they weren't wearing a hat whilst handling their horse? Or would you say that was their risk to take, and a tragic accident?



Fair comment, I do think its different standing next to a horse and being on board. But, I do see what you are saying.
 
Throw the cat among the pigeons-yes I think dressage riders should have to wear a hard hat when competing...highly publicised case earlier in the year regarding this.
Also dislike seeing the sjers take their hat off, don't really see the point... Nevermind the fact they can't cope with keeping their chinstrap done up for an extra few minutes to leave the ring, I actually think that is quite disrespectful as it looks so untidy.
 
Has anyone been injured or killed during their lap of honour with no hat ?! If they have I haven't ever heard of it!! I say keep the tradition they do it through choice not cos someone makes them
 
Cobrastyle said:
Let's be honest here - if kids/younger people are naive/stupid/impressionable enough to not wear a hat for the rest of their ridden career because a SJer has their's off for 30 seconds during a lap of honour......then they are clearly too naive/stupid/impressionable to ride/own a horse.

Darwinism at it's best!
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You missed Hi Viz ;)
 
benson21 said:
to insist that riders keep their bl00dy hats on whilst riding!!!!:mad::mad::mad:

It makes me soooo angry to see these proffesional riders on some fantastic horses who have sped round these classes, some of them having some bucks after been pushed on, whipping their hats off to the crowd of (some novicy) people who can be very impressionable, getting them thinking its ok to ride with out a hat.

Not wanting to start the great hat debate here, I just think the professionals should set a much better example.







And breathe....
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If people are really that impressionable maybe they shouldn't go out their front door in the morning, watch tv or read the newspapers.

Also you'd look a bit of a pratt whipping your hat off in celebration when you win the 2' class at your local show.
 
Hello daaaaaarlings..my... arn't we having fun!!!
As a dressage deeeeva, am I to wear my crash hat under or over my top hat?
I simply caaaan't decide.:)
Bryndu
 
I'm sure it was Olympia last year during the presentation for a class. Tim Stockdale's Horse had a 'moment' and he was carrying his hat. In trying to hold the Horse he got whacked pretty hard right in the face - with his hat.

It's up to them of they want to do it but I do think during presentations the Horses generally her more hyped up. I bet lots of the riders don't wear hats at home. The showjumper I used to work for never did.
 
How ridiculous to suggest that rules should be changed to stop kids copying professionals.

I am an adult - I always wear a proper hat - never been on a horse without one.

When I was a kid in the days of Harvey smith etc I still never rode without a hat.

And I'll tell you why - I did as I was told - no hat, no ride - about time kids today learnt a bit of respect instead of suggesting rules be changed because they are impressionable
 
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