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I've just spoken to my friend who is an absolute state and i dont know what to tell her? does anyone on here have experience of this?

Last week my friend was given a lab at her local shoot. Shes been half looking for a new one for a while, and one of the guests at the shoot she picks up on found out and offered her his lab. He said it runs on too much for him and he wants rid of it.

She was chuffed, she said hes a gorgeous dog. The guy said he'd just had all his recent vaccinations and if she gave him her address he would post her all his paperwork as its at his home and he lives the other side of the country.

She took him home and let him meet all her other dogs, it was late and dark so she settled him into his new kennel with some food and water and checked him a couple of times but all was fine, and the next day noticed he had thrown up in his kennel alot and was panting heavily, she put this down to nervousness of new surroundings but decided to err on the side of caution and call the vets.

The dog had Flu,

and the vet reckons the last owner certainly knew about it too, as he was in the second to last phase of symptoms or something. and why would anyone give away a perfectly good dog to someone they dont know for free? my friend said it was all a bit rushed because the guy said he needed to get home so that would explain that.

Shes beside herself, apparently its VERY very contagious and all of her dogs (she has 5) have come into contact with him. the vet said all she can do is disinfect everything and hope no symptoms show in the next two weeks.

the Lab had to be destroyed. and the vet said the chances are if any of her dogs have it they will too. She cant take them out for the end of the season and has to stay away from any other dogs!!!

I cant believe someone would do that knowingly. shes informed the shoot because the guy had the dog out all day and there were numerous other dogs present.. im speechless.

Shes tried in vain to get hold of the guy, the number he gave her doesnt work and the shoot dont have any details of him.
 
That's awful:(:mad: Poor dog, and your poor friend!

Hope none of the others get it. The old owner must have been either completely and utterly clueless or absolutely callous to do that to his dog.
 
Good grief how terrible, your poor friend must be very upset.

Surely someone at the shoot must know who this man was - otherwise how was he there???
 
I cant help her because im not familiar with the shoot, but it was a let day and the guy was just a friend of one of the guns. from what she has said the shoot is a bit lax with the books and doesnt keep records of all the guns past first or last names.

I feel so sorry for her. her dogs are her world and shes also expecting a litter.
The vet said that the guy couldnt not have known the dog had it.

She just texted me that another picker up saw the dog vomiting on the shoot day and asked the guy about it and he said he'd just eaten some grass... typically the picker up went home early before all this kicked off.

Im just gobsmacked really. why the hell wouldnt you just be responsible and not endanger so many other dogs. Shes got one more week for syptoms to show them selves because canine influenza has a two week incubation period. from what ive read online it doesnt look good if they get it. shes pretty savvy when it comes to her dogs and already said theres no way they would cope hooked to drips and whatnot. very very sad for her :(
 
OMG how awful :( What a horrible person to do that. I hope none of her dogs, or indeed any of the other dogs on the shoot come down with it. Thats absolutely disgusting behaviour :mad:
 
This needs cross posting to shooting times etc as well as our dogs. Name the shoot, it's area & suspected location the dog came from.

The shoot should have details of who was there and everyone with a dog needs to be informed as this virus will spread before symptoms show.
 
WTF? And he expected the dog to work for him knowing full well why it was throwing up?! :mad:

Stupid question but if your friends dogs are vaccinated, are they not protected? I bet she is frantic about her bitch in pup though.

Fingers crossed, none of them show symptoms - what an arse he is, hope they trace him some way :mad:
 
s4sugar said:
This needs cross posting to shooting times etc as well as our dogs. Name the shoot, it's area & suspected location the dog came from.

The shoot should have details of who was there and everyone with a dog needs to be informed as this virus will spread before symptoms show.
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Agreed - please PM me, I am meant to be taking Henry to a shoot in Leicestershire this weekend. Hopefully the chances of crossover are small, but I'd like to know!

Tx
 
Horrid man! I hope he can be contacted. Although he will probably deny knowing about the flu.

I know nothing of dogs, so please excuse this question if it sounds daft...but If people have their dogs vacinated against the flu ( I am presuming they do) surely they would be protected?
 
I'm not sure there is a flu jab for dogs. However, various google sources (I know!) say the mortality rate is fairly low, so hopefully if your friend's dogs do get it and she picks up on it early then there is a chance they will be ok. Fingers crossed this is the case.
 
The guy may not have known about flu. There are more common infections that have similar early symptoms.
Dogs that have travelled can be a bit off but not leaving his details along with the dog is rather dodgy.


There is no vaccine available here.

The shoot needs a kick up the nether regions as the names of all present should be known for safety reasons. Even if only "Fred who came with his mate Phil" The guy should be traceable.
 
Vetmed says:
What are the clinical signs of canine influenza?
Like influenza viruses for other species, CIV causes flu‐like illness consisting of cough, sneezing, and nasal discharge. Virtually all exposed dogs become infected; about 80% develop flu‐like illness, while another 20% do not become ill.
Fortunately, most dogs recover within 2 weeks without any further health complications. However, some dogs progress to pneumonia, which is usually due to secondary bacterial infections. While the overall mortality rate for canine influenza is low, the secondary pneumonia can be life‐threatening.
There is no evidence for age or breed susceptibility for developing pneumonia during canine influenza.
5. Who is susceptible to canine influenza?
Because canine influenza is due to a virus that is novel to the canine population, dogs lack preexisting immunity to the virus. Dogs of any breed, age or health status are therefore susceptible to infection. Although studies have not verified, it is likely that dogs that have recovered from
infection retain immunity to re‐infection for an undetermined time period.
Canine influenza is most likely to spread in facilities where dogs are housed together and where there is a high turnover of dogs in and out of the facility. Dogs in shelters, boarding and training facilities, day care centers, dog shows, veterinary clinics, pet stores and grooming parlors are at
highest risk for exposure to CIV, especially if these facilities are located in communities where the virus is prevalent. Dogs that mostly stay at home and walk around the neighborhood are at low risk.
CIV does not infect people, and there is no documentation that cats have become infected by exposure to dogs with canine influenza.
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http://www.vetmed.ufl.edu/college/pr/documents/CanineinfluenzaFAQDogowners_001.pdf
 
Awful thing he did but CF is not life threatening in most cases so i have no idea why he had to be destroyed and why the vet is telling your friend her other dogs will have to be too.

Abe had it pretty bad when we first got him but he was otherwise healthy and within 2 weeks he was back to normal.
 
The lab collapsed and couldnt breathe. both the vet and my friend decided it would be best to pts as he was too far gone to pull through any treatment.

Ive since spoken to her again and she is much less frantic now. both her and the vet are darned sure that the owner would have known there was something very wrong with his dog.
Shes terrified for her bitch in pup, the vet has said that she is his main concern now, and it seems when he actually said everyone should know who came into contact with it, she took that to mean it was more serious that it actually was. they are all very fit gundogs so they should all be fine but should still be watched.
 
They can develop secondary pneumonia as a result of CF, which would be very serious (obviously:o), which could have been the case here.

Bless her, I can totally understand her panicking a bit in the circumstances - I certainly would!
 
Poor dog in my mind - if flu is perfectly curable then what a horrid man to just let his dog suffer like this let alone pass the dog to someone else to deal with. Sounds horrendous.
 
Sarah sum1 said:
Another question :D I like to know these things.

If the vaccines don't cover flu, what do they cover? Is it tetanus?
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From a vet's website:
DOGS:
Dogs are vaccinated against: Distemper, Hepatitis, Parvovirus, Parainfluenza and Leptospirosis.

You can also get them vaccinated against kennel cough which any good boarding kennel will require, but you don't have to if they aren't going into kennels. Henry is in case I have to go away at short notice and put him into kennels, this has nearly happened a few times although so far I have always found a dog sitter.
 
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