ACP Tablets - Help!!

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My tb is moving yards, as I took everyones advice just over a month ago and decided moving yards was best.
He was recently sedated to be travelled by a vet, but in injection form. The old owner has said she has used ACP tablets for him before but was many years ago so can't remember the dosage rates. I still have some ACP left over as I work at a vets and my mums westie was intolerable to fireworks, so I have about 22 ACP 25mg tablets left.

First question is, I don't really know how many to give him because, they say as a guideline 1 tablet for every 100kg, he is about 600kg. However, alot of friends have said 6 won't touch him. And he would need more like 10-13. Possibly more!
Naf magic calmers, he was given 4 by old owner to try to load him and they didn't touch him, but he is also petrified of the vet so the better option for me is to try some ACP with him, however I am paying for someone to move him as I do not have a trailer myself so I cannot afford to give him not enough, and risk him not loading, and keep them waiting for hours on end! So..although I understand everyhorse is different what's my best step forward? I do not want to risk over-dosing him, but know he is quite tolerant when it comes to sedation and often needs quite alot! He is 15.2hh, roughly 600kg rounded to nearest 100. ACP are 25mg, and I have roughly 21 or 22.

If I were to give him 10, would that have a harmful affect? Bearing in mind he was recently checked over and declared fit and healthy for sedation.

--Also how quickly do they come out of sedation with ACP? The injection form did not last long with him atall
 
what strength are they?

Vet advised me to give my 500kg WB 20 x (I think 10mg) before turning him out the other day. It barely did anything
 
WHen we Ve used ACP we get tHem into tHe system gradually oer a few days, and tHen wean tHem baCk off, its neVer a straigHt dose for one day. Hope tHis Helps. :)

Sorry my lower Case H V and C are not working :rolleyes:
 
thanks for replies, he ended up have 21 tablets which only just touched him , but not enough, because upon loading, he reared so high he fell back on himself, he lost a shoe and broke the trailer, and that was with a Monty Roberts person loading him! He really is the worst horse I have ever met to load, but we did finally get him in, he did cut his leg on the way up but was a very small cut, I had no choice but to continue loading him because my time was up at the old yard, well and truely, just so glad hes moved now, got him off the other end and he acts like it was all a piece of cake! damn ex racers!
 
Very unusual for an ex racer to be a bad traveller....

Personally i'd never knowingly travel a horse sedated. It can produce a random and severe reaction and i'd much rather the horse was in full control of himself when he wasn't happy about a situation.Glad you got your move sorted though, and hope your lad can be happier where he is now. Things we do for these beasties....eh?
 
I have used ACP in the past on my oldie, we used to go to a show on them, they don't sedate so much as take the nervous energy out of him.
Was told they were safe to ride him and travel him on.
He had them the first few times and then was weaned off them for exciting times until he no longer gets to the point of no return on the excitment front.
 
I've heard ACP has lost it's licence because they have found it increases hearing sensitivity and is determined cruel anyone else heard this???? although I have used them before with varying degrees of sucess I suppose sedalin and domasedon is the new sedative
 
horsehelper said:
I've heard ACP has lost it's licence because they have found it increases hearing sensitivity and is determined cruel anyone else heard this???? although I have used them before with varying degrees of sucess I suppose sedalin and domasedon is the new sedative
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Just to clarify - it is all about the veterinary 'cascade'. Sedalin is ACP (in a gel format) that is now the licensed product for horses... legally, Sedalin (a brand name) should now be prescribed instead of ACP tablets (which are licensed in dogs, etc).

Before Sedalin, there was no specific license for horses, so it was quite legal to use ACP tablets in horses... Once a licensed product comes along it HAS to take first choice - so ACP tablets now found at the back of cupboards, etc etc!! To be fair, Sedalin should take effect much quicker and in a much more regular fashion than the tablets - the gel is designed to be absorbed swiftly through the mucous membranes in the mouth and into the bloodstream... the tablets obviouslytake more time as have to get into the digestive system first!
 
i have a small rescue that has x racers and we have a x racer that will not load into a trailer.
found out she had gone down in starting stalls which was prob the reason she hated trailers. she was really scared even when near 1
to b honest i wouldnt even try him in a trailer again as he obviously petrified. we always use a lorry now to transport our tb and is very happy to load into this. (we have to hire 1 as dont own one) expensive but worth the stressfree travelling for horse.
but if they are so scared to travel is it worth forcing them in the end u r just stressing them out.
acp can have the opisite effect with certain horses
 
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