AES - what's happening?

Is SEIS a new studbook Minderman has set up?
I haven't heard of it before. It may well be my heedlessness to blame for that though!
Such a sad situation. It seems incredible it can happen, that someone can start a studbook, put their blood sweat and tears into it only for others with large vested interests to swoop in and take it over as soon as it becomes successful-have I got it right?
And Shirleyno2 I get where your coming from I just get a craw in my throat about things every now and then!
 
Last edited:
Gadetra... NI, Irish or British (well technically UK, not GB), an even bigger can of worms than AES, Minderman or Van Den Otelaar.
I did my MA thesis on some aspects of the Troubles, and that has me in stitches (of the ironic type) this morning :-S
 
gadetra said:
Such a sad situation. It seems incredible it can happen, that someone can start a studbook, put their blood sweat and tears into it only for others with large vested interests to swoop in and take it over as soon as it becomes successful-have I got it right?
Click to expand...

Not quite. Obviously Henk did the work to establish AES and build it up - but others put money into it to make it possible. The whys and wherefores of the falling out between the owners we may never know - but the company reports show various interesting facts which MIGHT be implicated

Frankly, I don't think Stud Books should be set up or run by individuals - it's too easy for things to go badly wrong and for the people who lose out to be the ones who have spent considerable sums registering and grading their stock! It IS unusual - with 'my' tudbook and most others in this country if there's something you're not happy with, you can take it up with committee members, get yourself elected to committee - generally have a say!

SIES is newly established - there is nothing on its website to say WHO owns it. A Janice Stevenson appears to be the Admin. - and a 'connection' with AES is also indicated - beyond that - nothing!
 
JanetGeorge said:
Not quite........

Frankly, I don't think Stud Books should be set up or run by individuals - it's too easy for things to go badly wrong and .......
Click to expand...

Janet, we have to bear in mind that a camel was a horse which was designed by a committee. I've been invited on to several committees, and left every one of them because of the apathy of other members, and it's a mistake which I no longer make.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the success of the HM started and managed AES was the success that it was, simply because it had the focused approach of one person. I'm not aware of the reasons for the apparent demise of the British branch, but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that with the need for funding, and the invitation of others on to a board, that control was lost by the founder. If my supposition is right, then it wont be the first time, and I doubt that it will be a mistake which HM is about to repeat! ;)

I'm now wondering if the AES British branch will continue trading under it's original name, or if, in time, it will become the SIES. The problem, if it doesn't continue under the old description for the Continental branch, will be that the clue in part is in the very first word, "Anglo", as in British. Few from here will want to be bothered with applying for passports on the Continent, I'd have thought.

Dunno, general musings! ;) I'll ask on Monday.

Alec.
 
GinnieRedwings said:
Gadetra... NI, Irish or British (well technically UK, not GB), an even bigger can of worms than AES, Minderman or Van Den Otelaar.
I did my MA thesis on some aspects of the Troubles, and that has me in stitches (of the ironic type) this morning :-S
Click to expand...

Exactly!

Anyway, back to the studbook. Thank you for the clarification Janet George.
I did think that by using Ireland in the title there was a possibility they were piggybacking on the success of a more established and successful studbook, and am surprised it was allowed to be named as so, given that it is a mainly English studbook it replaces. For me anyway, the AES was the English version of the ISH studbook, the identifying studbook of the UK. It seems strange to 'replace'/restart another version of it under the Irish banner instead of a UK one? Anyway, it's just a musing!
 
The SIES was set up in 2010 I believe, so not really newly registered!
Hell, they say a change is as good as a rest, I'm game to try green passports !!!!!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top