ahhh wish I had kept mare where she was!!!!

hihosilver said:
I think there are too many hurtful and negative things said which I am not bothered about. But to say she would have been better going for meat than to be with me is a very sick and worrying statement. I have stuck with her for 3 year have managed to ride her for 3 months been told to put her down and thankfully not listened and spent a fortune on x-rays, treatments, and love her to bits. She is very well has no colic or is she about to drop dead from starvation.
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OP seeing as you are online at the moment perhaps you could answer me this:

Do you think that access to no forage for 22 hrs a day is acceptable?
Do you think approx 1 1/2 hrs forage eating and a bleeding big bowl of hard feed is safe and acceptable?
Do you think you are doing best by your horse?
Do you think there is no risk of long term or short term conditions caused by your horses diet or lack of it?
Do you think your horse is better off where it is, than where it was?
Do you think facilities are more important than access to forage?
Do you think it is appropriate to be working your horse for however short an amount of time while it is on such limited calories?
Do you think that just because your horse doesn't look emaciated at the moment, that it wont look emaciated pretty damn soon?
Do you think you are using your intelligence and experience from your degree and implementing it for the welfare of your horse?
Do you think you are currently being selfish and putting your wants and needs ahead of your horses welfare and needs?

Answer truthfully, if not on this forum, then at least to yourself
 
OP, everyone is just genuinely concerned - in this weather there is a real danger of your horse suffering within a very very short space of time if not allowed access to forage.

Did you speak to your YO ? was there any solution ?
 
Its no good folks...

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OP why do you continue to ignore valid questions. You never truely wanted to move your horse, you clearly wanted a moan and sympathy....
 
I honestly think if I was in this situation (moved to yard without checking access to hay and no space on old yard to go back) I would pop him in the horse box and leave him on my drive with the partitions out and a haynet/ water for 24 hours or more while I knocked on every yard door until I found somewhere with a space.

Cruel to leave him in a trailer overnight - probably, but still better than 22 hours without food.

OP you honestly know the right thing to do here.
 
hihosilver said:
What valid questions have I ignored? :confused:
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Incase you missed them 1st time round

Do you think that access to no forage for 22 hrs a day is acceptable?
Do you think approx 1 1/2 hrs forage eating and a bleeding big bowl of hard feed is safe and acceptable?
Do you think you are doing best by your horse?
Do you think there is no risk of long term or short term conditions caused by your horses diet or lack of it?
Do you think your horse is better off where it is, than where it was?
Do you think facilities are more important than access to forage?
Do you think it is appropriate to be working your horse for however short an amount of time while it is on such limited calories?
Do you think that just because your horse doesn't look emaciated at the moment, that it wont look emaciated pretty damn soon?
Do you think you are using your intelligence and experience from your degree and implementing it for the welfare of your horse?
Do you think you are currently being selfish and putting your wants and needs ahead of your horses welfare and needs?
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Perhaps OP would like to tell us where the horse is.

It would be good to be able to check the horses well being. With this extreme freezing weather, this poor animal may be at risk.

The gypsies near me have been rugging and putting big haylage bales out for their horses through the winter.
Perhaps the OP would like some tips ?
 
Delicious_D said:
We have given you plenty of advice, its just i dont think its the advice you wanted....
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This.

amymay said:
Ridiculous.
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And this.

Delicious_D said:
Oh dear. :rolleyes:

Not scare mongering but good advice....either take it or leave it, i suspect you'll do the latter.
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And this.

zigzag said:
So she is eating food for less than 2 hours a day? :o , she is starving and lost weight and you are working her? Horses are supposed to be constantly grazing/eating hay for 18 hours a day.
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And this.

hihosilver said:
Now that tells me you do not know what you are talking about. I have a hons degree in Equine Science. Do NOT insult my intelligence.
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Seeing your responses on here, you have insulted your own intelligence. What little you posses anyway...

Delicious_D said:
I dispair really.....if shes losing weigh why are you working her? I am sure the vets would not be so keen to work her if you explained she is hardly grazing for any real length of time and is losing weight. Shes already demonstarted shes burning calories to keep warm, and you are burning more working her...i would be worried about her going into ketoacidosis if this continues...
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Very true.

MaHats said:
I was only asking if I could feed her better to help her!!!!!!!! not looking for world war 3

Help her??? If she needs help, the owner needs to do something, and that is you.

You need to solve the problem now in order to avoid further neglect. If your horse has access to food for only 2 hours per day, I think that is neglect. And if you cannot convince the YO that your horse needs food, find one that will allow you to feed your horse properly, NOW, do it now! Sorry to be direct.
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This, MOVE NOW.

Natch said:
I think the word is unwilling, not unable.
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Nail on the head.

Queenbee said:
OP seeing as you are online at the moment perhaps you could answer me this:

Do you think that access to no forage for 22 hrs a day is acceptable?
Do you think approx 1 1/2 hrs forage eating and a bleeding big bowl of hard feed is safe and acceptable?
Do you think you are doing best by your horse?
Do you think there is no risk of long term or short term conditions caused by your horses diet or lack of it?
Do you think your horse is better off where it is, than where it was?
Do you think facilities are more important than access to forage?
Do you think it is appropriate to be working your horse for however short an amount of time while it is on such limited calories?
Do you think that just because your horse doesn't look emaciated at the moment, that it wont look emaciated pretty damn soon?
Do you think you are using your intelligence and experience from your degree and implementing it for the welfare of your horse?
Do you think you are currently being selfish and putting your wants and needs ahead of your horses welfare and needs?

Answer truthfully, if not on this forum, then at least to yourself
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This.

Delicious_D said:
OP why do you continue to ignore valid questions. You never truely wanted to move your horse, you clearly wanted a moan and sympathy....
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And this.


Your desire to help this horse is outweighed by your own laziness and cheapskatery, however the beautiful irony is that if you carry on as you have been then you will have to fork out more money in vets bills, and even if she is insured you can guarantee that your renewal will be sky high and you won't be able to claim for any colic-related illnesses.
And that's not accounting how much time and effort it will take to rehabilitate her, if she survives.
So, seeing as you are a lazy cheapskate, save yourself money and effort by getting her moved. NOW.

I'm not going to sugarcoat this, I'd rather a quick bullet to the head than being starved for 22 hours a day.

Oh, and just in case you weren't already aware, colic is excruciatingly painful.

So have you done her a favor? No.

YOU are neglecting this horse, however YOU have the chance to change that.

So get off your fat ass and go and do it, every second you are spending is another second that your mare is suffering.
 
Well said GS.

The gypsies next to us are doing the same and their on 60 acres. Rugged and hay. They said the grass has nothing in it. No hard feed though. Loose on 60 acres. They're also in work. They look smashing when rugs are off too.

Terri
 
I think the lack of response by the OP and the ignoring of questions is a deliberate attempt to wind everyone up.

Such as shame as this is such a useful forum - hopefully something has been sorted but she has taken umbridge (have always loved that word) and decided to let us all stew.
 
had the vet check her today as he was at the yard,....he said she looks well and compared to some he has recently seen she looks fantastic! he had a chuckle about her being starving... he recommended 2 hard feeds a day which I have put into place. So she is fine and well enough to buck and canter around today:D
 
hihosilver said:
had the vet check her today as he was at the yard,....he said she looks well and compared to some he has recently seen she looks fantastic! he had a chuckle about her being starving... he recommended 2 hard feeds a day which I have put into place. So she is fine and well enough to buck and canter around today:D
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Chuckled did he ? :rolleyes:

You really aren't bothered are you ?
 
crabbymare said:
Did the vet know she is not being allowed to eat for 22 hours a day or did nobody mention that?
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yes I told him. Don't forget that 6 horses have been out all winter in same conditions and are well. He told me she is fine and he is a vet...so going to listen to him not scaremongers!
 
amymay said:
So, just remind us of the point of your initial post? ??
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did you read it at all?? as I said she is very well. vet checked, fed twice today. I did make a mistake I have said that but she is ok and along way from needing moving!!! I asked him if my feed was ok he recommended fast fibre and a supplement called pink??? I am happy now, she is very happy and fresh!!!!
 
Surely it must be a case of the field being low on grass and not completely bare? So there's enough for the horses to pick at to keep their bellies ticking over? At least I hope so...
 
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