Am I right or wrong?..

Nancykitt said:
Have just seen the web page. The advert wording is similar to the first FB advert but slightly different
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I think the two adverts are much more than slightly different. As a buyer without seeing pictures that would describe two very different young horses to me. Baffling they would have left out his very best selling points on the 2nd advert and at a give way 'any offers' price mark on the 2nd one.? 🤷‍♀️
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Mrs. Jingle said:
I think the two adverts are much more than slightly different. As a buyer without seeing pictures that would describe two very different young horses to me. Baffling they would have left out his very best selling points on the 2nd advert and at a give way 'any offers' price mark on the 2nd one.? 🤷‍♀️
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I bought a 4 year old from a dealer and definately rode it prior to purchase.I wouldn't have bought it otherwise.In fact one of their staff rode it,followed by my instructor and then followed by me.
 
Nancykitt said:
Oh, absolutely! it was because of the skill of the amateur detectives that we have Ozzy!
I don't think we would have taken him without the info from the owner who sold him at auction. So I'm personally grateful to the detectives!
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the Ozzy situation was amazing. I doubt many people get so much info about a strange horse on which to make a decision. The detectives did really well for Ozzy, without that info. he may have ended up as a problem horse just being passed around. :D
 
Well the two ads put a different light on it .
But the it’s confusing many buyers will buy horses with small sarcoids,I have ,I don’t insure my horses I can’t bear thinking that a lovely horse gets rejected because of one .
But the two ads close together that would stop me viewing if it was any sort of long drive.
however I find it difficult to imagine that buyer did not find the older ad as well .
 
Beausmate said:
"Great potential under saddle" but no ridden viewings a fortnight later. Sound like he's not as placid as first thought.....
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But the 2nd ad still says 'hacks well'
I can't make it out!

I wonder if it's not actually the lumps that have put the wind up the buyer but something else - perhaps he's no longer as placid now he's moved
 
Apparently there were 100's of disappointed would be buyers for this horse, surely that alone would encourage dealer to take him back, make a refund without fuss and bother of dragging H&H into it, and reoffer to those 100's of interested buyers in a couple of weeks when more work done, and those innocuous rubs have gone?

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The mystery deepens, I have tracked down the last owner. I probably will now leave this here for the OP to comment as I have seen all I need to see so that I can now feel confident I have enough facts to answer OP's original question on this thread. In my humble opinion OP, you are very wrong, very wrong indeed. :rolleyes:
 
cauda equina said:
But the 2nd ad still says 'hacks well'
I can't make it out!

I wonder if it's not actually the lumps that have put the wind up the buyer but something else - perhaps he's no longer as placid now he's moved
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It would be unusual for a ridden horse to be sold from field with a dealer.
Unless riding it was possibly unsafe .

There's less comeback isnt there, it was sold as a project with no ridden claims made

We just need the new owner to find this thread and pop in and fill in the blanks 😁
 
Sounds very much like a situation I was in. To protect your reputation just buy the horse back providing the horse is in the same condition that it left you. Mine came from a “reputable dealer “ with 7 sarcoids which said dealer stated they weren’t there when they left her yard. Now I’m no expert but I do know they take longer than 24 hours to appear. I did get my money back but it was a long drawn out stressful process.
 
Caski said:
Where has the OP gone?
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To ground probably, as the majority of you are hunting her/him like a pack of dogs which is an unedifying read to say the least.

Thoughts and opinions were expressed regarding the question and situation raised by the OP, with differing, as you would expect, views, thoughts and opinions. The OP can read them and make her/his own decision as to what they do from here regarding the horse. They have no need to justify or record on the forum what they have done or will do.

Two lessons to take from the situation, vendors - write appropriate adverts, purchasers - vet your potential purchase.
 
Mrs. Jingle said:
I think the two adverts are much more than slightly different. As a buyer without seeing pictures that would describe two very different young horses to me. Baffling they would have left out his very best selling points on the 2nd advert and at a give way 'any offers' price mark on the 2nd one.? 🤷‍♀️
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Apologies - what I meant was that the first advert on FB was not unlike the advert on the dealer's website. It mentions the breeding, showing history, etc.

But I agree that the second FB advert is very significantly different. And I don't understand why they have left out the info on the breeding, successful showing, etc. - especially as some people are prepared to take a 'quirky' horse that has good breeding and could potentially be successful in the show ring.
 
AdorableAlice said:
Two lessons to take from the situation, vendors - write appropriate adverts, purchasers - vet your potential purchase.
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Perhaps another lesson to take from the situation. Don't try to use a forum you very rarely use to take advantage of genuine forum members often eager to give good and experienced advice purely to try and whitewash your own less than professional behaviour. And do not get quite angsty if you do not get the response you are pushing for. 🤷‍♀️
 
AdorableAlice said:
To ground probably, as the majority of you are hunting her/him like a pack of dogs which is an unedifying read to say the least.

Thoughts and opinions were expressed regarding the question and situation raised by the OP, with differing, as you would expect, views, thoughts and opinions. The OP can read them and make her/his own decision as to what they do from here regarding the horse. They have no need to justify or record on the forum what they have done or will do.

Two lessons to take from the situation, vendors - write appropriate adverts, purchasers - vet your potential purchase.
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In fairness to the forum, it's not unreasonable to wonder if there is more to the story. That's human nature. And the discrepancies between the adverts certainly are interesting.

People were pretty sympathetic to the OP, at first, but they appeared to only want confirmation from the forum that they should take the buyer to court and did not seem receptive to the idea of taking the horse back, which the majority of the forum agreed (!) was the least problematic outcome for dealer, buyer, and pony.
 
AdorableAlice said:
To ground probably, as the majority of you are hunting her/him like a pack of dogs which is an unedifying read to say the least.
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To be fair, some of us were asking questions of the OP well before the stuff about the two adverts etc had emerged. I just asked for clarification as to whether the buyer did or didn't want to give the horse back. I still don't know the answer to this.

I think that, overall on this forum, we're keen to help people and will happily give advice that can then either be accepted or rejected, which is fine. (ETA - just seen your post, Mrs Jingle, literally as I'm writing this one!)
But in order to give good advice, it's reasonable to have all the relevant bits of information. I don't know whether some detail was deliberately or accidentally omitted, but if we've not got the full picture it's just not possible to fully answer the question 'Am I right or wrong?'
 
Beausmate said:
I don't understand why so many people selling horses don't bother to get good advert photos. I know it takes a bit of time to wash the muck off and tidy them up, find a clean bridle and get them to stand up nicely, but when you are asking that kind of money for what is really nothing that special, then making them look as good as possible and your business as professional as possible ought to help with better sales.
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It (my comment) was really more along the lines of, if horse had been groomed correctly, then how could seller say she didn’t know lumps and bumps were there…(or am I being old fashioned)…
 
Jenko109 said:
I want to know a out the previous owner! Tell meeeee
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Well I certainly won't be giving out their name, they didn't put up this thread so totally inappropriate to name them. OP named herself quite openly along with plenty of details to identify both the horse in question and her own FB page and business website. Quite what she hoped to achieve baffles me. This is an open forum, original owner, the dealer and the buyer perfectly free and able to come on here and comment if they so wish.
 
Marshpiper said:
It (my comment) was really more along the lines of, if horse had been groomed correctly, then how could seller say she didn’t know lumps and bumps were there…(or am I being old fashioned)…
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I didn't think that bit needed repeating. I also had a nosey at the website, and none of them were particularly gleaming, so, it was just an observation. Sorry I used your post for my musings.
 
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