Amersham Horses being sold at Henley

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The charities would NEVER be able to afford these horses.

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Actually something like the RSPCA would. Even if the job lot were valued at around £7K for them all - it's not a difficult amount to raise or put their hands on.

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£7000 for 80 horses/ponies, what a joke!!! I would say a minimum of £1000 on each horse, so job lot nearer £80,000. But if pony patters turn up if could be well over £100,000.

YOU obviously have never been to a horse auction.
 
Why the attitude
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my goodness AmyMay, never been to a horse sale, how terrible for you.

The attitude is there in every single post she puts up so don't take it personally - she just doesnt like us because she thinks we like to pat our ponies rather than beat and starve them!
 
No attitude just annoyance, that you all know so little about sales and think these horses are going to end up in such bad homes or as meat.
 
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No attitude just annoyance, that you all know so little about sales and think these horses are going to end up in such bad homes or as meat.

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Shame - you have totally missed the point of the whole thing.....................
 
Quite right though... I sat and thought about this too. Those horses will need to make ridiculous money to pay back the Rspca investment.

All the petitions in the world will not change the ruling unless someone can afford to pay to mount a legal challenge to the decision made by the magistrate judge. When you look at the law itself the judge has followed it, if rather blindly, to the letter.

Sorry to sound negative but Im trying to be realistic here.
 
perhaps she should be examined by a vet and PTS before the day, even if it means asking the judge for permission. Poor old girl but it would be better than the other option
 
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worried about the blind old dear though, what do you reckon her chances are?

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not great..
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She wont be allowed in the ring in that condition so will possibly go off the lorry outside

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So if she is sold off the back of the lorry, does that mean that someone can just go up and make an offer without her having to go in the ring? If that is the case could all the others not be bought "off the back of the lorry" as well without having to go in the ring. Will they have a reserve price on them or can they be sold for whatever price someone offers? If that is the case could not the charities pay a nominal sum for all the horses without them having to go in the ring (excuse my ignorance if I have got this all wrong).
 
Nothing should be sold off the back of any lorry. The site rules are such that no trading should take place in parking areas etc...but we all know it happens.
Rather than sold from the back of the lorry it's dealer to dealer stuff that goes on. Horses moved from one truck to another, sometimes without the horse touching the ground with ramp to ramp only touching the floor.
My guess is that the horses will be transported by drovers, those hired by dealers to move horses around the country.
 
The charities will obviously be taking them to the sales, wont they? so i dont think they will allow them to be sold of the back of the lorry. who knows i dont know what to think any more the whole things a shambles
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have none of you read the horse and hound today??? jg has been ordered to pay a huge amount to the rspca, so yes they could use the money to buy the horses back
 
The money is to reimburse the RSPCA for the care these animals have already had. To be honest I dont think they will raise enough to do that let alone give enough to purchase them back.
 
no exactley but its a decent amount isnt it, i cant see thoose horse gooing for 1k each. but then saying that its either going to be a mass boycot complete with protestors, or daft members of the public will pay over the odds,

also i feel that theres a chance the horses wont get sold at henley but at sales further afield where the horses wont be known, and it wont be made public. all to protect mr g
 
I see what you are saying jh....move them around a little first. It will be VERY interesting to see which of the established dealers are there on the day.
 
well as much as im for the whole we have to do something. thinking about it i fear we could be doing more damage, it will all go quiet and no one will know where the horses are being sold or on which day.

lets get real its a large number of horses going to 1 market on 1 day, as its been said theres likly to be press etc, not to mention many people baying for jg blood, LIKE hes going to show up and sell that many horses....
 
tbh though-if he has to pay RSPCA back, then the sale of those horses is unlikely to end up (even if they go for 1.5K each!-unlikely?) with him getting any money. Reading that I can't help feeling this is done just to spite the welfare organisations?
I also don't get how if the the horses weren't in any danger they were removed or not returned now.
This based on HHO report today.
 
Henley in Arden as I've said before,
a.Is not set up to hold that many horses.
b.Is the prime auction for the meat men.


£270?? I know people who have paid £20-£50 per pony from that sale. I go there most months and have been for several years as I have been trying to locate an old pony.
I also know people who have bought 'off the lorry'.
 
it may be the meat mans place, but that was my point, with the amount of publicity surrounding it all, there is the chance of
a, a boycote
b, protesters
c, daft people paying over the odds for an amersham horse.
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d, they may just go for meat money and to the meat man.
 
You could try protesters, it would certainly make it incredibly hard for the boxs to enter the site.
The 'daft' people are a dead cert as they are there every week paying over the odds.
The coloureds do tend to sell well, its the other poor sods that dont.
 
again this is what i was saying about prices,

but my fear is we are well and truely jepodising the case, dont get me wrong i want the outcome overturned as much as mist, but i think the relistic and pratical side has got me thinking.
 
Protesting there is totally counterproductive. The requirement is to OVERTURN the judges decision by legal means, and by that I mean resorting to the Law which will cost money and time. This is what the RSPCA are looking into.

The letter of the law was followed by the Judge at the Magistrates Court and this would be in no small way down to the solicitors acting for JG.

People can jump up and down all they like but interfering in a legal judgement is NOT going to do anyone or any horse any favours.
 
You sound as if you are a friend of the Grey family with your attitude - heart of stone - why are you bothering to make comments like this when you know full well how passionately the public feel about this case. You want to take a good long look at yourself - where did all this crap come from about why they have ended up in an auction - they have ended up there because some idiot judge has made this direction - what planet are you on lady - or are you thick as well as hard-nosed?
 
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