Amersham Horses being sold at Henley

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This is just a thought, and I don't know how big Henley market is, but is it worth getting in touch with the local Council and local Police. If the poor horses do end up being sent there then I can see it being absolutely pandemonium. There will be all those extra horses and horse boxes and I am sure there will be a lot more members of the general public who may be trying to bid for one of the ponies. Plus I am sure the media will probably be there as well. Surely the council would be concerned with health and safety issues and I can't see the Police being happy as I am sure there will be public order and parking issues. I was just wondering if it was worth making them aware as they may have a bit of clout if they objected. And is anyone local? Could local residents be made aware of all the chaos that may erupt and get them to get on to the council.

This may be a bit of a long shot, but anything to try and stop the horses being sent there.
 
I would imagine the place will be heaving and yes, you are probably right, it will be a huge health and safety issue. What would be really good is if it was so busy with traffic the horseboxes carrying them couldnt get through and they missed the sale. It would mean they would have had the trauma of a journey for nothing but that is nothing compared to the trauma of the sale and where they might end up! I would imagine lots of the people going will also be taking empty boxes in the hope of buying one of the rescues and being able to transport it home - the whole thing will be bedlam!
 
Yes, and your own MP ifyou are not in the Amersham area. All the details are on the new Amersham horses website set up yesterday, easy to find on our forum. Also the addresses of other people to target, and I am writing directly the to PRime Minister who as reported in H&H today personally congratulated a man who rescued his sister's horse from drowning.
 
And do you think that regular sellers may take along extra animals as well in the hope of trying to take advantage of the fact that there will be a lot more prospective buyers there.
 
I have to go out now but will be back later this morning and will try and find the addresses for the council responsible for Henley and the local police force and put them on here.
 
Henley isn't a big place on a "normal" day...with lots of traveller types...

on any given sale day, i would hazzard a guess that only 70% of all animals actually go through the ring, many are taken off one lorry straight onto another without going through, loads are tied up to lorries, trapped/trotted up and down...it can and frequently does turn into Bedlam.
 
Just moved this to here wftare I replied to a different thread, I'm wondering if this is a possible solution?
For the horses' sake they need to be bought carefully and with clear intentions of what happens to them afterwards.
There are so many things that might happen, JG can get his unscrupulous mates to run up the bidding to ensure they make silly money.
They may get bought for silly money by the travelling community merely to be able to boast they have an Amersham horse..
There could be loads of bidders going against each other attempting to save them and really just wasting money doing it.
I think what everyone should remember is the horses are the ones that are important here, not lining JG's pockets, and some method needs to be sorted to allow all that work by the charities and helpers not to go to waste.
Surely someone on here knows people of influence?
All that needs to happen is that judge to make a ruling that the horses are to be valued by an independent valuer such as a market auctioneer, then available for sale prior to the auction.
That way they do at least don't face the trauma of a market, and can be bought by outside parties ensuring people don't bid against each other.
I'm going to suggest this to that daft judge now...
I think the charities should have first option on them, and that way they might not have to even move from their own present homes, the valuer could travel round for his assessments.

Does this sound a possibility or am I being daft myself?

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No HH - I've been thinking along exactly the same lines myself. Value the stock - offer them for purchase to the charities.

Think it may be the only solution ultimately that will satisfy people........ Other than, of course, the judge reversing his decision.
 
I dont think its daft at all , in fact it may be an option the judge would consider when he realises what a public outcry his decision has caused ,he could save a little face if you know what i mean.
 
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something else i've just thought of......


How many of these animals are ACTUALLT FIT to be sold through the market?

the old blind mare certainly wont be allowed into the ring..so is she to be sold "outside"??
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the old blind mare certainly wont be allowed into the ring..so is she to be sold "outside

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That is of particular concern to me JM07
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Henley is a vile place. The pens are small and the ring no bigger than a foaling box. The ring its self should have been condemed infact the conditions are so bad that it was due to close last year and the auction be moved toa different site. There is no parking as such and horses are 'tried' on the road. THe residents have long campaigned to have it closed and as such there is no parking and as for health and safety!!!!!
 
What concerns me most about Henley is that the meat man is always a regular purchaser there - both in and out of the ring. I have also seen horses outside the ring there being sold that IMO should have been under care of a vet or humanely PTS.
 
Henryhorn, if the horses have to be sold this is the most sensible and humane way of dealing with it. It is just the question now of getting the powers that be to listen and seriously consider it. Are you going to contact the charities with this option as well?

I think this judge is obviously totally unaware of the horsey world and the problems his judgement has created. I asked the question on another post if anyone knew who picked judges to preside over which cases and if it was the case that Judge Kainth will now follow this case through to its conclusion.
 
Just a thought. You may wish to check that we are definately talking about The Market in Henley in Arden, and not the Sale which is advertised on Thompsonrural.com. l am too far away to make enquiries, but agree with the many local posters. There were supposed to be 2 officials from something like Trading Standards present when I used to go.
 
That is useful. Do you think it is worth contacting the council and if so would it be the county council or the district council and any idea what department would be most relevant.

And do you think it is worth writing to the police as well?
 
Sorry if Im being thick here but how exactly are the local TS and Police in any way authorised to stop these horses passing through the ring??? Its got nothing to do with them!

The ruling is that these animals be sold - local TS and Police cant just change the ruling. If they could then Im sure the decision would have been overturned by now!
 
perhaps H&S or public order concerns could cause the Police to limit the number of the Amersham horses appearing at any particular Henley sale - i.e. so that the 80 don't all go on the same day

perhaps that is a way of preventing at least some being lost to unknown fates before the cruelty case is heard on the 28th April
 
Perhaps I'm being dim here...

Isn't Henley held on the first saturday of every month? And today is the 10th April. So the next sale is on Saturday 3rd May? After the case has been heard?
 
I think you are all being rather irrational. The charities would NEVER be able to afford these horses. Horses sold im the ring at henley and outside make strong money, i was there last week.

The cheapest horse that sold in the ring was a very very scrawney little nf colt yearling and he sold for £270, NO way meat money at all.
Ive never ever seen a really cheap meat value horse or pony sell through that place.

If travellers did buy the amersham horses in the ring there would be no problem, they look after there horses well, that is where there money rests.

I dont understand why you all cant let go, the decision has been made to sell them at auction and thats that.

I think maybe you all need to take time to think that maybe some of these horses may not be all so angelic as you think and may have many quirks as to why they were in auctions to begin with.
 
you seem to know an awful lot about this Horseygirl, are you a dealer or a traveller. Im afraid the travellers local to me don't look after their horses well, unless you consider tethering without water and racing along roads with no regard to their horses legs, looking after - I don't. Whilst I know many dealers look after their horses the starved skinny ones can be seen at any auction, getting trawled from place to place and no care in between. It is this uncertain future that worries people, if you cannot understand why, after what those horses have been through, then you should perhaps read through the posts again and actually read the sentiment in them. We might all be horse huggers but as I said before rather that than someone who doesnt care! I for one am proud to be on this forum with all these other horse huggers who obviously know nothing about horses (your words in a previous post - I could put you right on that - but I won't!!) but at least care what happens to them
 
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The charities would NEVER be able to afford these horses.

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Actually something like the RSPCA would. Even if the job lot were valued at around £7K for them all - it's not a difficult amount to raise or put their hands on.

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I think maybe you all need to take time to think that maybe some of these horses may not be all so angelic

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Oh I'm sure you're right - doesn't mean to say they don't deserve a second chance.
 
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