Amount of work...

Moomin1 said:
Not sure that I would be taking 'advice' from certain posters on this thread, who seem to swap and change horses, and have issues with each one, resulting in them being sold etc etc..

QB, I think people are being too harsh on you here. Yes, I think that a hack after ten mins in a pessoa is too much for a 4 yr old. I also wouldn't put a 4 yr old of mine in a pessoa. That being said, much much worse goes on, and it's hardly crime of the century.

Get a grip people. 30 mins a week?? :rolleyes:
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Moomin... I've said it a few time lately.... *whispers* but I'm starting to quite like you ;). I appreciate that you do not agree with the whole Pessoa thing, but its nice to see you don't think I'm going to hurt him either :)

Billie1007 said:
Mooms people didn't react violently to the lunging, they reacted violently to the 'maamish' attitude of op!
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Delicious_D said:
FWIW no, i dont think its too much. Dee was out competeing in novice classes at 4... BUT i would be a little cautious re: lunging. However, walking on a lunge is different to hooling about in an unbalanced canter :)
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Thank you :)

jhoward said:
tbh dd I think she is just showing her TRUE colours, of course im not perfect never attempted to be, and no I won't be posting pics of my lad as QB well knows I can't ride, and Henry had a tough time and needed time to mature and chill. See i do the best for that horse.
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Couldn't comment on your riding ability... Hand or no hand... Never seen you ride.

jhoward said:
oh fgs QB your not a novice surely you have enough intelligence to answer your own question. Stop twisting genuine peoples replies.

No its not going to kill your cob to work twice in a day it spends what..23 hours a day lounging about if anything the road work will harden his legs up for later life...slowly slowly and all that ... See even I've given u a sensible answer.
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On that level, personal differences aside... Thank you for a straight answer to the question it is appreciated.
 
Faracat said:
This comes under my definition of sparing.

I'm not against lunging, but I have seen some idiots really lunge their horses into the ground on a regular basis.

I never thought that you were in that group BTW QB.
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Faracat, in absolutely not being defensive here... Do you truly consider 10 mins at walk with a maximum and I do mean max of six circuits (3 on each rein) at trot is sparring and lunging 'into the ground'?
 
Queenbee said:
Faracat, in absolutely not being defensive here... Do you truly consider 10 mins at walk with a maximum and I do mean max of six circuits (3 on each rein) at trot is sparring and lunging 'into the ground'?
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Sorry - I didn't make my post clear.

What you stated = sparing

The idiots that I have known in the past that lunged, fast and hard, on a tiny circle, for 1/2 hour approx and the horse was dripping in sweat, several times a week = lunging into the ground.
 
morrismob said:
QB, as I said earlier I like the pessoa and in the right setting does horses a lot of good. It doesn't sound to me if you overdoing it all and 10 mins is about right. I am a crap rider but spend a lot of time with my horses ( daughters compete) on the ground and hate side reins with a passion.

I have a 2 year old tbxwb that I bred myself ( his birthday is June when he will be 3;) ) He will spend some time on the pessoa when he has been broken ( what a horrible term) and has ridden away. It will be one of my many tools to give him a varied life under my watchful eye.:)
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Thank you mm


Its coming across as if Ben has never been LR or lunged and has only just been backed :( he is a year into his education almost and has done a bit of everything, the vast majority being hacking... But hey... Sometimes you've got to be the target... I'm reckoning ill post about rolkeur next week :D

JOKE PEOPLE!
 
Faracat said:
Sorry - I didn't make my post clear.

What you stated = sparing

The idiots that I have known in the past that lunged, fast and hard, on a tiny circle, for 1/2 hour approx and the horse was dripping in sweat, several times a week = lunging into the ground.
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*whispers*. Sorry... So am I sparring in your opinion...? I think i need a lobotomy...


For what its with nothing seems to even dent on him physically or mentally:p
 
Gawd it's just like a real live livery yard on here sometimes! The bitching and snide comments on this thread begger belief!

QB FWIW I think your thread has been easy pickings tonight, not because of anything you have said or done, but posters have just jumped on the bandwagon, and you have made the fatal mistake of trying to reply, when the HHO hounds are baying.

I have no knowledge of lunging or gadgets, but I can't see how a 20 min gentle hack, a couple of times a week, on top of his 'normal' work is going to screw up a well adjusted 4 year old.

Lets all get a grip ladies, and quit with the bitching! :D
 
Faracat said:
Yes - absolutely fine. :)

ETA - if you want forward you can borrow my chappie who seems to have forgotten that 'walk' actually exists. :p
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Ha, I've just got it... You mean sparing, I thought you meant sparring as in boxing... To the max lol! God I love Ben, but I miss forward... Ebony was so forward! I think it's good in a way, he's every bit the anti Christ of her... Makes me love him for his differences, although hacking he really is cracking on with his strides :) until he starts to work... Then he tries desperately to make every step as small as possible in walk... But his trot transitions... Just flipping magic... It's like he zooms up vertical for the first stride... Couldn't teach it if you tried! He will get there! Tomorrow I'm making a strapping pad for him... I hate showing but I can't abide doing things half measure!

Thanks fc x
 
qb-grand national isn't 2/3yr olds you know...
And maybe you should take on board that pretty much everyone is saying stop lungeing a young horse so routinely. I take it the lungeing is because you can't be bothered to/aren't capable of schooling him? As I can see no other reason to be lunging so often. It is not the short term effects you will feel but long term when he may struggle to stay sound. Hence why people are advising. I realise you may not like the answers but this is a public forum so complaining just makes you look about 12..
Think about why everyone is telling you the lungeing is too much..
 
SusieT said:
qb-grand national isn't 2/3yr olds you know...
And maybe you should take on board that pretty much everyone is saying stop lungeing a young horse so routinely. I take it the lungeing is because you can't be bothered to/aren't capable of schooling him? As I can see no other reason to be lunging so often. It is not the short term effects you will feel but long term when he may struggle to stay sound. Hence why people are advising. I realise you may not like the answers but this is a public forum so complaining just makes you look about 12..
Think about why everyone is telling you the lungeing is too much..
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God, I wish I was 12... Uni ahead of me and much less wrinkles!

I said grand national and racing 2/3 year olds... I'm quite aware 2/3 year olds are not raced in the GN

No, I can't be bothered to spend 30 mins schooling three times a week, I'm currently building my own core strength up as I have a damaged back and have been out of riding for three months while he had his holiday, yes I should have kept fit during then but didn't, I'm also looking into purchasing a more suitable saddle as I have an eventing/jumping saddle which shoots my legs forward... Not ideal for schooling and a stupid twisty back. Plus, half an hour in the school... Ben would hate, if we do go in the school it's at the end of a short hack for ten mins, we do 15 mins around the block, 10 mins in the school then 5 mins walk down up the road. He has a varied schedule
 
Prob going to be attacked here but in my book it was always the norm to lunge young horses prior to and along side their ridden work. Granted it was in side reins rather than a pessoa to emulate the riders contact. We would always lunge on a moving circle using the whole school not just standing still.
I actually think that 10 mins in walk and trot on the lunge isn't enough to be of benefit, you would be better to lunge twice a week for longer to develop the muscles and forwardNess. I would mix in some hacking to get him thinking forward and long reining.
I'm not going to comment on the pessoa as that's your choice but for a young green horse I would go for side reins, if you want him to engage more lunge in two reins.
As for the amount of work, our four year old is preparing for young horse classes. He is worked five or six days a week for short periods with plenty of breaks. He is hacked,, lunged, pole work and small jumps and schooled.
He came to us looking terrible, he is now muscled and shiny. All his work is kept easy.
 
Wow I despair sometimes at the audacity of those who come on acting like god when not so long ago they were admitting they pretty much left their horse neglected in a field and blamed his condition on a friend :rolleyes:

Its not like he's being chased around madly on a lungeline until he's dripping is he, honestly sometimes I hate clicking on threads as you never know what your going to open and who is getting a verbal kicking on a given day.

Folk just need to learn when not to type and to think about what they have done wrong in the past that's well documented due to forums these days!

QB as I said before I don't think what your doing will in anyway hurt your boy. Yes I'm not a fan of horses being backed and broekn at 3 but that's not what's being asked here and that's my personal opinion, your boy looks healthy and happy in the pics I have seen and that's all that matters.
 
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