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Is that definitly Becky Holder in the 2nd photo - if so that is amazing and well done her.

Also agree with your other comments but need to add that Kristina Gifford and Mary King rode superbly.

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Yes it is, it was taken at this year's Rolex and I got it from her website
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Wow! Well done to Becky Holder - she looks amazing now! As Weezy says she is also testament to the fact thats this is the biggest competition on earth and so horse AND riders should be in the form of their lives.
 
I agree about Becky Holder. That was whom Ian Stark was referring to in his commentary. I think she has done well although looking at the photo I am wondering if she has put some back on again. Maybe it was just that I was watching on widescreen.

Can I just ask what bit was AT using? It looked like a hackamore but wasnt sure as it was difficult to see.
 
Wow, Becky Holder has certainly shifted some weight, she looks great in the second pic.

I didn't follow all the AT stuff a few months back, so I don't have an opinion on it, IMO her fall yesterday was rider error and a bit of bad luck. I wouldn't wish anyone to be injured, life is short and difficult enough as it is!
 
Pretty sure it was a hackamore. For sure the horse looked feisty and difficult to hold, but a little more engagement and setting up before fences would not have gone amiss IMO. As lzt says, she earned her place on the team, fair and square, but what I have seen of her riding XC has always left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth - XC is a high risk sport however you look at it, and thus I think one should limit ones risks as much as humanly possibly, and riding like that is loading the scales against you - just IMO of course!
 
Wow Becky holder looks fab now.. I only saw the small AT clip I recorded it last night and will watch it tonight, I thought she was going a bit fast (I know nothing about XC)
 
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Those who posted wishing her physical injury should be ashamed of themselves.
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Of course, to the very core
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About as ashamed as she seemingly was that she contributed to her horses' death.

IMHO, personal opinion need not be 'shameworthy'
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Sorry to stoke the fire...

Could someone tell me what she did to provoke the mighty wrath of HHO?
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have seen several posts about her today and I've gathered that she fell off and most people think she deserved it but don't really follow eventing so don't know who she is and why she's disliked! Also, is she american?
 
I have to admit my OH and I commented on the overall larger than average size of the American team, but more in comparison to the ultra lean and fit Brits who have clearly put an enormous amount of work into rider fitness, not as a personal dig about size (which would be hypocritical of me in any case
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I think AT's fall was rider error, and I feel very sad for Lord K, as in all his 18 years he has probably never been ridden like that before, and judging by the look on AN's face, he knew he had c*cked up big time.

But how ANYONE can wish a person to fall off, let alone be injured, is quite beyond me, especially in the light of recent eventing tragedies. Shame
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QR - I have to admit (& this is not a comment directed at anyone in particular) that I was following the olympic thread last night but stopped after Amy Tryon fell off because I found all of the 'gloating' posts quite over the top. Yes OK we are all glad she has had a blow to her ego
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but I do find the posts on her too much.

I know that she did a terrible thing and is a heavy handed, at times agressive & reckless rider but comments on her 'hitting every ugly branch' and also wishing that she had seriously hurt herself are extreme for me.

Just my view and of course this is a forum where we can all say what we want, but I personally don't like it at all.
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EarlGrey, look up her name and Le Samurai on youtube, i believe the vid is still there. i cannot watch it again.
she was in the lead after dressage at Kentucky 4* and coming round the corner to the final fence xc after a good fast clear when the horse stumbled badly and carried on on 3 legs. she did not notice the fact that the horse was very very lame (a beginner would have felt it imho) and carried on and somehow got him to jump the last fence, bless him, what a brave horse. the supporting ligaments in that fetlock had totally gone by the time she had galloped over the line and pulled up, and the horse had to be destroyed later that day. if she had pulled up immediately, perhaps he could have been saved - galloping on for 60 yards, jumping a big fence, and galloping through the finish, did not help the leg at all. (possibly understatement of the century.)
she did not seem to notice how lame he was, at all. she has no feel at all and, however much she may have achieved, she is no true horseman.
 
There is small mercy in that she came off at a fairly enocuous fence, if it'd been a more complicated combination it would have been alot worse. I think theres something to be said for the one fall your out rule. She was riding dangerously and I don't think anyone can argue with that wheter you hop she's fine, has a big bruise or is acctually hurt.
 
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QR - I have to admit (& this is not a comment directed at anyone in particular) that I was following the olympic thread last night but stopped after Amy Tryon fell off because I found all of the 'gloating' posts quite over the top. Yes OK we are all glad she has had a blow to her ego
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but I do find the posts on her too much.

I know that she did a terrible thing and is a heavy handed, at times agressive & reckless rider but comments on her 'hitting every ugly branch' and also wishing that she had seriously hurt herself are extreme for me.

Just my view and of course this is a forum where we can all say what we want, but I personally don't like it at all.
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Totally agree with you Arwen, all therse AT posts are getting a bit out of hand. I feel exaclty the same, the Le Samauri incident was horrendous and nobody can justify her riding or what happened!!
I have comented on the other thread in Latest News saying I don't condone the Le Samauri incident and got slammed for sticking up for her.... all I said was the same Karma may well come to those who wish bad things on others!!!
 
I don't think the video is there anymore, I could be wrong but I couldn't find anything.
There are some tribute videos but i think there were some complaints and youtube had to remove the said video...i think anyway
 
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QR - I have to admit (& this is not a comment directed at anyone in particular) that I was following the olympic thread last night but stopped after Amy Tryon fell off because I found all of the 'gloating' posts quite over the top. Yes OK we are all glad she has had a blow to her ego
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but I do find the posts on her too much.

I know that she did a terrible thing and is a heavy handed, at times agressive & reckless rider but comments on her 'hitting every ugly branch' and also wishing that she had seriously hurt herself are extreme for me.

Just my view and of course this is a forum where we can all say what we want, but I personally don't like it at all.
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AT killed her horse through irresponsible riding and she screwed up her Olympic bid with the same. She was going too fast, she wasn't anchoring her horse properly and often had reins like washing lines.

I am not afraid to say that women deserved everything she got and nothing will ever make me 'get over' her public 'killing' of a horse. She shouldn't have even been on the American team, she should have been banned back then and I sincerely hope, after the awful excuse of riding that resulted in her horse taking a fall on course, the American selectors rethink using her.

I am not afraid to say I dislike her; I dislike anyone who puts their own ambition and want to win attitude above their horse.

It is not simply reserved for AT.

I am a AN supporter, but I thought her rode like a [****] yesterday and, to be honest, was an embarrassment to watch- He should have known better and he was very lucky that his horse was not injured.

WFP- I love how people say he had a smooth round, etc. We didn't even see most of it. He was one of the fastest of the day and his horse was tired coming into the last fence and he, in my opinion, was EXTREMEMELY lucky to get away with it. He was very close to joining the ranks of all the other riders who tried go too fast, on tired horses, and paid the price.
 
Sorry , as I watched her round I hoped she'd have a fall ( but not be injured & that goes double for her horse . )

A life ban would have ensured she didn't fall on her arse - but that didn't happen as we all know .
 
I think many people would be a lot more forgiving towards AT if she had shown an ounce of contrition or been appropriately punished for her earlier actions. As neither has happened, I am sure I was not alone in taking some sort of peverse delight at the sight of her hitting the deck.
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Amy Tryon has had several choices, she could have been sorry instead of trying to justify her appalling cruelty. She could lose weight, (yes it IS relevant, it would improve her balance and fitness) hell, she could even learn to ride.
Le Samurai had no chances, no choices, he just did his best and died for it.
She should have been banned for life. Full stop.
And if a few people take delight in her landing with her arse on the grass, so what?
Why SHOULD we forget what she did? Why should she?
 
I have to admit I was glad when she fell off and I won't deny it, however evil that makes me. This isn't just because of her previous conduct but the way she was riding the course yesterday - she was lucky not to come off earlier and in my mind I was beginning to think the horse would be better getting her off now than the risks she was taking. I'm also glad for the new one fall and you're out rule - seeing that horse afterwards, it did not look right when it was walking, I'm so glad the decision to ride on was taken out of her hands.
 
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Having watched the highlights I thought AT looked to have slimmed down a bit actually?

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I thought so too, actually. I believe her weight is listed as 75 kg at the mo which would make her lighter than some of the male riders. In view of the conditions in Beijing, it would certainly have made Poggio's job easier if she were lighter but you're right, she would've got on the team on merit.
I'm still not a fan though
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I for one was happy to see AT tipped off yesterday and won't apologise for it. I watched the clip of Samurai and I won't forget it. After losing a horse in such a horrible way she STILL came out hell for leather yesterday - it wasn't only about being fast, she dropped her horse on the approach to the downhill brushes and simply did not look fit enough to find her own balance either. Her own ambition gets in the way of doing the best by the horses and that is what I cannot stand. For the record I thought AN rode like a ar** yesterday as well - that horse has been a long and loyal servant to him and yesterday he messed up badly.
 
Thats mean to criticise her due to her weight. How do you know she does not have a medical condition?

I have an under active thyroid and went from just under 8 stone to 14 stone in the space of a year due to this condition. I also have treatment for another condition which puts weight on too. Its not through choice I am like this and it depresses me so much.
 
Im not her biggest fan..

I agree she was riding appalingly and i was very amazed she made it over an earlier double, the horse was in a very flat gallop and was not checkand too the fences way to flat!

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But do we think AN and AT will learn from their mistakes?

AT very obvously hasn't!

But with AN.....time will tell I think. I hope he learns.

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Ok everyone - don't shout at me - but, didn't AN just miss???? That was an honest to goodness mistake wasn't it??
 
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