Amy Tryon

Well, my dad loves his golf on Sky, much of which comes from America. They are very vocal, and generally very bad sportsmen... the crowd think nothing of 'boo'-ing a good shot from one the American's oponents, and shouting at inopportune moments to put them off.
So, in answer, why don't those who are going to Burghley stop being so English and polite and voice thier disapproval of her?!
 
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Well its all rather confusing if you ask me.

I can't also understand why she wanted to push the horse on knowing something wasn’t right just to finish the XC phase when she had the SJ to do, what would be her gain?

First of all there is all the hard work and training put in getting these horses to this level, then there is all the expense that goes with let alone the actual cost of breeding/producing/owning a horse to get it to that stage, plus the rest of her team, her reputation and sponsors etc.

So even if she did not give too hoots about the horse welfare and is some kind of 'hard faced only in it to win it' sort, she still wouldn’t of gained anything from doing it, she'd loose out financially also, that’s why I can't understand it all

She obviously was not thinking straight, got carried away in the moment and was too focused on finishing the course rather than the consiquences, no excuse I know, extremly selfish but a mistake I'm sure she regrets every time she looks a horse in the eye.

If I saw her at an event competing, I wouldnt give her a bad reception (but I wouldnt be cheering her on either...thats for sure) but what's done is done, she did wrong, she knows it, throwing it back in her face every time she competes is not going to bring that horse back.

Still can't get my head round it all, why she did it :confused:
 
But from what I understand, Kenzo, she didn't admit any wrongdoing, and attempted to justify herself rather than hold her hands up. Doesn't sound to me as though she regrets it at all??
 
Not seen video but all sounds horrible, what I dont understand is why in GB our authorities would let her compete, whilst I agree with you all about her being banned for life there is the other option that events organisers could and do refuse entries?
 
If you haven't seen the video, I would advise you not to watch it. It is extremely distressing to watch :( AT is an absolute disgrace and should not be allowed near ANY animals ever again!
 
Ballyboo said:
But from what I understand, Kenzo, she didn't admit any wrongdoing, and attempted to justify herself rather than hold her hands up. Doesn't sound to me as though she regrets it at all??
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Your right I agree, I'm not defending her in anyway or her actions but if she has any heart at all, I'd hope to think she regrets what she did.
 
I haven't seen the video it wants a password, I find it weird that is has vanished from everywhere! Maybe somebody has friends in high places! Can't believe she is even allowed to ride again, I would never ever send a horse to her :O
 
Regardless of the rights or wrongs of Amy Tryon, why are people suddenly getting incensed that she might ride at Burghley this year? Entries aren't even open yet. She rode at Burghley last year, finishing 14th on Leyland.
 
I find this thread vile to read through. Im saddened at peoples replies. Before Le Samurai in Kentucky, Amy was widely respected throughout the eventing scene, having had a 4* horses and if i remember correctly a Athens Olympics run under her belt. If we think about this, other top riders have had 'misfortunes' think back to Harry Meade at Burghley last year, however if he wished to compete again he doesn't get a huge thread about him saying that its 'wrong' and they'd 'rip off his head if they saw him'. Amy is not the only person to make a mistake.
 
The video was horrific - the horse broke down after the 2nd last fence, she kept him galloping, turned the corner to the last fence (so no way could samuri have locked on) and jumped it, galloped across the finish hopped off and appeared "surprised" that her horse was crippled.
Horse was literally jumping on 3 legs.

It was so obvious that we as spectators saw it - and the ones at the side lines calling her to stop and pull up. So it was a pretty big thing not to feel really.

Amy did not EVER admit her mistake - not even a mention of the poor horse on her website. if you havent seen the vid then I dont think you will understand the horrific nature of it.

Amy Tyron deserved a life ban; if any jockey pused a crippled horse like that they would have got a life ban.
 
brushingboots, i really don't think you can equate the two at all. Harry Meade's horse tied up, it didn't go catastrophically lame. if you've ever been riding a horse who has tied up (i have, btw) you'd know that it just feels lazy, as if it drops behind the leg and doesn't want to go forward. it feels like a suddenly tired/disobedient horse that just needs pushing forwards again, which is what he tried to do. Also, he put his hands up and admitted he was wrong, and apologised. (Fwiw when mine tied up I also tried pushing the horse forwards... before thinking "hold on, this really isn't like her at all... what's going on?")
AT never admitted her fault afaik, she tried to excuse it by saying that the horse had already 'locked on' to the final fence, so it wouldn't have been safe to try to pull up. Locked on, round a corner? Give me a break.
 
brushingboots said:
I find this thread vile to read through. Im saddened at peoples replies. Before Le Samurai in Kentucky, Amy was widely respected throughout the eventing scene, having had a 4* horses and if i remember correctly a Athens Olympics run under her belt. If we think about this, other top riders have had 'misfortunes' think back to Harry Meade at Burghley last year, however if he wished to compete again he doesn't get a huge thread about him saying that its 'wrong' and they'd 'rip off his head if they saw him'. Amy is not the only person to make a mistake.
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Oh my god, it was more than a "misfortune"! Actually, Shame in the Horse Show Ring (I think it's called that, it's a blog) had a post on Harry Meade and it disgusted me, it was so so horrible. Of course he got criticism, but he admitted his mistake and showed remorse. And of course the horse didn't have to be PTS unlike poor Le Samurai. It really can't be compared :(
 
Now that the video is there for all to see you should all understand the comments on this thread which by the way is relating to her riding at burghley last year not this. Still makes me sick to watch. What a vile woman RIP La Samuri:mad:
 
Oh my. Thank you for posting the video.

This is utterly heartbreaking. Utterly, utterly heartbreaking.
To me, it's unequivocal.

I opened a (free) photobucket account and copied the video into, to reduce the chances of it 'disappearing'. If you would like me to delete it I absolutely will.

Re Yeehawrider. Don't know what to say really - longtime lurker and forum reader, saw the sig, looked her up, looked for the vid, found this thread, and this is the first thing that has moved me enough to register and post. Glad I did. I could read all the threads in the world about what people think of her behaviour, but viewing the video has determined for me my opinion on the matter. The video was posted when it happened in 07, then there was a HHO thread in 08 and a new crop of people were able to see it, then this thread in 09 and some more people saw it, and here we are in 2010. It is difficult to be an apologist for the rider when the footage is here and indisputable. I was particularly moved to post when a poster referred to a younger generation who were perhaps unaware of what she had done enthusiastically cheering her at events. Perhaps reviving this thread goes some way toward addressing this, and was perhaps partially the intent of the forum member who mentions her in their sig, which is a very honorable intent. If the attitude and behaviour of this rider is loudly condemned, and we don't just forgive and forget because a couple of years have passed but continue to make new generations aware, the message about the priority of horse welfare to young/new riders is unequivocal.
 
Well like I said I feel heartbroken. I personally believe the lameness is obvious going into the jump, but even if you could find a way to dispute that or her awareness of it, even a layperson can see that coming out of the jump that horse is in immense pain and struggling to keep on. The rider made a decision to put the finish line ahead of her partner's life. An overwhelming breach of trust, and of moral and legal obligation. A calculated decision appears to have been made that the suffering of the horse was worth material gain. Even if the extent and degree of that suffering was genuinely not known by the rider (though I find this difficult to believe), I cannot find that the rider was not aware of any suffering. And any suffering is the tipping point at which you stop.

It made me wonder, if this had been a no-name rider secretly filmed here in the UK at some unlicensed event, whether a criminal prosecution would have followed.

That's what I think.
 
I still cant believe that she insisted that she thought it was a stumble!!

Poor Poor horse, seeing the video again after all this time is 100x worse than Id imagined :(
 
Whisky said:
Regardless of the rights or wrongs of Amy Tryon, why are people suddenly getting incensed that she might ride at Burghley this year? Entries aren't even open yet. She rode at Burghley last year, finishing 14th on Leyland.
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They aren't. Look at the date of the first posts. The post was about her riding at LAST years Burghley...
 
I had never seen the video before and thanyou for posting it, it was 100x worse than what I was expecting to see :(

Poor Horse :(
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I hadn't seen the video before either and I'm genuinely shocked!! I cannot believe how that poor horse even managed to get ovet the last fence for her when it was clearly crippled! The FEI definitely c****d up when they made that decision!

Agree though that it can only be a good thing for the future of our sport that this example of cruelty is brought up year after year. It is now 2010 and I have only just seen the video and I hope that this video will be brought to the attention of people next year who have not seen the footage.
*mooches off to join the facebook group*
 
Kenzo said:
Your right I agree, I'm not defending her in anyway or her actions but if she has any heart at all, I'd hope to think she regrets what she did.
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Ah, fair enough. Just hoped you may have heard something I missed, to suggest that she's since admitted + apologised. Guess not.
 
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