Animal Communicators - who's convinced?

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On another thread here, people got talking about Animal Communicators. I thought I'd start another thread about it rather than hi-jacking that thread even further!

I'm on the fence, having never met an AC or seen one in action. But my natural scepticism means I find the idea hard to swallow. What do others think?

There's a really sad case of a lost/stolen dog near where I live. It's adoring owners are doing everything they can to get it back: maximum publicity, press, tv, radio, offering huge reward, and now they've got an AC on the case. I don't think the AC has never met the missing dog, but has described the place she believes the missing dog's at, and a person allegedly connected with its disappearance.

On the Facebook group about the dog, there are lots of people concentrating on "finding" the place/person described by the AC. It makes me sad because, deperately sorry as I am for the owners, I cannot believe the AC can be in touch with the dog and receiving information from it.

Or, am I just a cynical grumpy old woman who's not half an open-minded as she thinks she is?
 
I was a bit dubious but I had Captain "read" and it was incredibly accurate, things I had never told any one, certainly not the AC. Fany was also read and again was accurate. So yes I am convinced but I think a lot of people jump on the band wagon, who are fakes.
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personally i feel that AC and psychics are a load of twaddle.

however people need to take comfort where they can, if that is meeting and having dealings with these people then fair enough, that is their choice and their own money they are spending - not mine.
 
I was massively sceptical but now I'm not ;).

My mare indicated a problem to the AC that showed no clinical symptoms and something the vet had not even considered.
As she went to a referral vet, I asked them to x-ray this area and sure enough, there was a problem there that the vet believes she has probably had since birth :eek:.

Weird but true :D.

Would I get it done again?
Probably not but it was useful for not much money spent :).

OP - Is that Brook you are on about?
 
I've been looking in to it a bit as I am thinking of having my boy read (just out of curiosity) and the one I'm thinking of using says they do not do missing pets as it can give false hope and lead you in the wrong direction. Feel for the dog's owners, I was nearly at the stage with my missing moggy earlier this year. Hope it shows up!
 
I'm convinced although I didn't need much convincing. It is used where I grew up as a normal thing and I remember my Grandma found her stolen jewellery through a medium/communicator/whatever you wanna call it and found the culprit! Her foster child of all people!

Never really paid much attention to it, I just accept that it's "there".

Have used it myself to ask my horse things and have been impressed with the quality and clarity of the 'reading'. I regularly talk to my horse (and cat) as a result... not directly, we don't have a conversation, I don't have a gift, but I think he gets the jist of what I'm trying to get across through voice pitch or body language I don't know. All I know is that we have a good relationship.

It is what it is. It's a gift and not an exact science. I think if you know someone who can communicate, then give it a go, what harm can it do? There are bogus people out there, which makes it hard to trust the practice. There is no way to tell, not that I know of until you see proof. So, you go by recommendations.

So yes, sorry to ramble, it should be accepted, I find it weird people are so anti... but hey, each to their own and the fakes should be wiped out! I just wish I had a Dr. Dolittle gift :D

I wish I could communicate with humans as well as I do with animals :D:D:D
 
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I think that they would have to be the last resort, when your own mind and rationalisation has has been lost. I cannot say that I would NEVER use one as I have never been in that situation. So I suppose that I am open minded on the subject.
 
I am a cynic but did meet a lady who was a communicator and she did it with pictures, she said she would be happy to demonstrate for free so i emailed a pic of my cat and 2 horses that i shared with my mum and she got their characters pretty spot on, not sure whether she could see it in the photo!

i was particually interested in what she said about our mare, she was a rescue job when we got her and a stroppy cow, me and her had a love hate thing, she was my mums mare and my mum had several accidents on her, including one which was nearly life ending for my mum as she was trampled her in a panic. now like i said it was a love hate thing with me and her, she would do as i said and i had to be very firm with her. the communicator said that the mare had said to her that she was scared we would get rid of her, and that she felt more confident with me as i drew the line and my directness gave her confidence, where as she was sorry she hurt my mum but she made her panic a lot because she panicked too much around her. Now the AC didnt know anything about this or me at all so i was a little shocked.

After 10 minutes i pretty discounted what she was saying because as a 'science' minded person it must be rubbish. But i still found it interesting. It comforted my mum who was growing more nervous around the mare, and i suppose that is what really matters. she cracked me up with some of the comments my pony made (i had him since i was 5) he apparently said he was sad we don't have fun anymore but he was happy in his new home and loves it when i visit him. (my aunty keeps him for RDA), that made me smile!


so in logical mode its complete bull but the experience was a comfort.
I feel sorry for the dog owners but i suspect it may just make the pain last longer. :(
 
I am sure that there are people who can communicate with animals just as I know there are people with psychic abilities.
However, there are a lot more who are very good charlatans!

I have known four really top psychics, one could make predictions by reading a glass of water you had just drunk or a bottle of coke. Never was it a waffle it was of a single incident that would happen within 6 months. Usually only after the incident happened did you recall what she had said and never were they something like stepping in front of a car and nearly being run over - but of an unusual event.

One old man I knew I would have classed as a Horse Whisperer, I do not think there was anything he couldn't do with dogs or horses yet he needed no round pen or carrot stick. He could walk into a field and the horses would all come from the far side just to be with him.
I asked him how he did it and he said it was a gift that he could understand them and them him. He never said what had gone on before or what a horse wanted, he just had a way with them.

As with clever psychics it is observing, watching for the person being read reacting in the minutest way that leads them on the right track. of what to say. It is the same with most communicators.

My only experiences with them have been highly amusing and they have been so way off mainly because I can keep a poker face and lead them with body language down the wrong path.
 
I believe in them. Seen some amazing things happen with them, even over the phone ones.

But then again I am slightly open spritly anyway, I catch the odd word that someone is trying to tell me.
Ie one of best friends, Gray, died a few years ago, very suddenly. His partner, also a very close friend, has moved on and I thought all was well. All last week I've been catching the odd word, stupid words that the group of friends use, nicknames etc.

I went to a meeting on Thursday as soon as I walked in, the medium came up to me saying that Gray has beening tring to talk to me and has got something to tell me, his partner has got cancer and is telling all the friends at the weekend.

As soon as the meeting was over I went round to my friend, yes got cancer, yes was going to tell everyone at the weekend. She was very glad I came over, we had a chat, a cry, and good hug. Iwas then able to support her when she told the rest of the group on sat.

And since then I've had the odd thank you and a hug like feeling, which I can put down to Gray beening with me.
 
"personally i feel that AC and psychics are a load of twaddle.

however people need to take comfort where they can, if that is meeting and having dealings with these people then fair enough, that is their choice and their own money they are spending - not mine." - Dancing Queen

"I think that they would have to be the last resort, when your own mind and rationalisation has has been lost. I cannot say that I would NEVER use one as I have never been in that situation. So I suppose that I am open minded on the subject." - Lionman

Oooh! Close run competition for most patronising posts of the evening, Ladies & Gentlemen! :D
 
Somehow I find it easier to believe someone could "speak" to an animal in that animal's presence than the idea of being in touch with a lost pet they'd never met. Perhaps that's just illogical on my part though?
 
Mrs B said:
"personally i feel that AC and psychics are a load of twaddle.

however people need to take comfort where they can, if that is meeting and having dealings with these people then fair enough, that is their choice and their own money they are spending - not mine." - Dancing Queen

"I think that they would have to be the last resort, when your own mind and rationalisation has has been lost. I cannot say that I would NEVER use one as I have never been in that situation. So I suppose that I am open minded on the subject." - Lionman

Oooh! Close run competition for most patronising posts of the evening, Ladies & Gentlemen! :D
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I am!!
I used to be very sceptic about it, but since having it done on 2 of our horses as a birthday gift, I am a huge believer! It was incredible, the woman was saying the most accurate things, things that we didn't even know about until we looked deeper into them. one example was where my horse had an area of pain which the vet & physio both missed - we asked them to come back and have a closer look at the area the woman had told us about (they must have thought we were insane!) and discovered the problem that the lady had informed us about. She knew all about their pasts, and was incredibly detailed about everything she said, we didn't once give anything away and everything horsey was hidden from view apart from the horse itself so as not to give her 'clues'. I wish i hadn't lost her number as i would love to get her back, i would love to be as gifted as her!
 
Ohh and I've also got my old child hood horse that follows me every where, and I mean everywhere.

I catch his breath on me, a nuzzle, or one of his high squeals. He ESP loves it that I've called my new horse after him, he feels very proud. I can't tell what he's thoughts are but I can tell his mood and temper.

Some mediums say that I can open the channels up to get the commucition flow better.

But had a bad experience as a child, I had mega nightmares over it for years, so shut it out.

Now my son, that is a story.
Say we are stood in a que, he will turn round to someone and say things like, your missing ear ring is in the car, or Ben is very happy you have met a new man. Some of the things he comes out with are unbeliveable, and he's always right too.
 
Well I will admit to be Mrs Cynical from Cynical Valley until this happened

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=436654

Now strange thing is I ran into this lady again down at my old yard and she said apparently V-man checks in with her now periodically!!!!! I was very "ah right of course" whilst backing away until she said "He says he is not Ted and is getting a bit affronted about it"

He is at the moment using Ted's saddle with a numnah under it with TED sewed on it, now I have not told anyone this so no way would she have known.

My Inner cynic has taken a bit if a bashing I have to say but I have bought him a new numnah to take over with me in December:-))
 
starryeyed said:
I am!!
I used to be very sceptic about it, but since having it done on 2 of our horses as a birthday gift, I am a huge believer! It was incredible, the woman was saying the most accurate things, things that we didn't even know about until we looked deeper into them. one example was where my horse had an area of pain which the vet & physio both missed - we asked them to come back and have a closer look at the area the woman had told us about (they must have thought we were insane!) and discovered the problem that the lady had informed us about. She knew all about their pasts, and was incredibly detailed about everything she said, we didn't once give anything away and everything horsey was hidden from view apart from the horse itself so as not to give her 'clues'. I wish i hadn't lost her number as i would love to get her back, i would love to be as gifted as her!
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Jackie weaver?
http://www.animalpsychic.co.uk/
 
I'm weird, I believe in weird things!!
I believe in ghosts, past lives, psychics. I believe that some people can read the spirits of others... Ie animal communicators (or at least some of them, I'm sure there are charlatans about!).
Life, death and the universe is so mind boggling and unexplainable that I will keep an open mind on these things. We are so minute in the scheme of things, who knows what is possible :).
 
Mrs B said:
"personally i feel that AC and psychics are a load of twaddle.

however people need to take comfort where they can, if that is meeting and having dealings with these people then fair enough, that is their choice and their own money they are spending - not mine." - Dancing Queen

"I think that they would have to be the last resort, when your own mind and rationalisation has has been lost. I cannot say that I would NEVER use one as I have never been in that situation. So I suppose that I am open minded on the subject." - Lionman

Oooh! Close run competition for most patronising posts of the evening, Ladies & Gentlemen! :D
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love it :D x
 
I have a mare who often 'goes' for a chat with the communicator :) The communicator has become a friend of mine and if we are on the phone it is not unheard of for the mare to interupt! Interestingly my mare is appaloosa and do wonder if they are particularly good at communicating, or just gobby :D We actually asked the communicator to talk to the new mare before we bought her and she said some interesting things, which fitted well with what we found.
I would recomend that anyone gives it a go.
 
Mrs B said:
"personally i feel that AC and psychics are a load of twaddle.

however people need to take comfort where they can, if that is meeting and having dealings with these people then fair enough, that is their choice and their own money they are spending - not mine." - Dancing Queen

"I think that they would have to be the last resort, when your own mind and rationalisation has has been lost. I cannot say that I would NEVER use one as I have never been in that situation. So I suppose that I am open minded on the subject." - Lionman

Oooh! Close run competition for most patronising posts of the evening, Ladies & Gentlemen! :D
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Patronising, I dont think so!! Lets face it, if all in your world is going smoothly you wouldnt think of an AC. If you have tried everything you can do with your horse, dog, whatever, you might go for a last resort option. An animal communicator. Now wind yourself in Mrs and stop being so sarcastic. I did say that I was openminded on the subject, just that I have never been in that position.
 
I was very sceptical so decided to contact one about my girl about 12 months ago. I was gob smacked with what came back, there was some very accurate information! All the communicator had was a photo of my girl and a location (town) and she asked when would be a good time in terms of being quiet on yard.

Like everything there will be good and bad communicators I suppose.
 
YorksG said:
I have a mare who often 'goes' for a chat with the communicator :) The communicator has become a friend of mine and if we are on the phone it is not unheard of for the mare to interupt! Interestingly my mare is appaloosa and do wonder if they are particularly good at communicating, or just gobby :D We actually asked the communicator to talk to the new mare before we bought her and she said some interesting things, which fitted well with what we found.
I would recomend that anyone gives it a go.
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Maybe it is an Appy thing indeed:-)))

Apparently one of his other complaints was that he was fed up with everyone laughing at his hoof boots! But also that he is very very happy where he is now and especially likes the children fussing him.

She said it is quite normal for them to get in touch again, I think my main parnoia is that he will say he hates me:-)
 
Chav horse, if he was going to say that I am sure he would have done by now, given that he is not backwards at coming forwards! :D we had the most bizzare episode where everything the AC said was wrong :eek: , didn't fit with the Current Appy at all, AC was getting quite upset, I was saying 'no that is wrong, no that didn't happen with this girl, I know all her history'. Then the penny dropped and this was the oddest thing ever, the Current Appy was telling the Old Appy's story, some of which I knew and recognised and some which fitted, but I hadn't known!. I am told that the Current Appy later said sorry for playing games with the AC!
 
lionman said:
Patronising, I dont think so!! Lets face it, if all in your world is going smoothly you wouldnt think of an AC. If you have tried everything you can do with your horse, dog, whatever, you might go for a last resort option. An animal communicator. Now wind yourself in Mrs and stop being so sarcastic. I did say that I was openminded on the subject, just that I have never been in that position.
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Absolutely stand by my patronising remark there. Your post quite clearly says "They would have to be a last resort when your mind and rationalisation has been lost".

That does not tally with the back-peddling above. The former remark is about as closed-minded as you can get.
 
I am closed minded. Snake oil for the credulous.

Yes, you can call me patronising because I feel patronising towards those taking in by such hokum:D
 
The first time someone told me a story, I was a bit incredulous, but the AC was talking to a horse and he said he wanted a chocolate cake with candles for his birthday like the pony next door got on his birthday: that is pretty specific, and the AC had never been on the yard before. The fact that one horse can complain about a numnah belonging to another pony is pretty strange, and just shows how far removed we ourselves are from the natural world.
 
I find my 'inner sceptic' still finds it hard to believe, but I've had some very accurate readings, one each for my three horses and then a friend had one done for a pony I know well. What I've found interesting is not only that there are facts that were v accurate (e.g. that I was given one of my horses, that one gives kisses, one had recently had a bad trailer experience, one was on loan and knew he could go back to his beloved owners if need be so wasn't too worried about recently having left them to live wiht me... etc) - but more amazing to me (my innre scpetic grumbles on about lucky guessing, even though i know that the chances of correct guessing for four horses is preposterous), is the fact that their PERSONALITIES were spot on through the medium - for all four.

My quirky elderly mare was just that, with a fantastic sense of humour and an absolute heart of gold. The medium then even laughed, describing my mental welsh cob as 'like talking to a child' which is absolutely how he would be, he's such a baby. My arab was just down to earth but enthusiastic about the things to come, and then my friend's pony was absolutely full of himself and saying how great he was and how he should be allowed ot jump higher and so on becuase he's not realising his full potential and he's a really good pony.

I can vouch for the facts being accurate, but the personalities being so spot on blew me away, no way you could guess those, esp with them being so completely different horses. The chances of correctly guessing four (and getting facts right) are absolutely minimal. My inner cynic still grumbles but I know it's wrong and there's something in all this.
 
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