Animal Communicators - who's convinced?

FionaM12 said:
Hmm. We would be able to tell RR was excited, but how could anyone tell he thought he was racing?

I can well believe a horse would recognise racing tracks as places that exciting things have happened to them. My old horse used to get very excited when he recognised a place he'd previously had a good gallop too.

But that still doesn't mean they grasp the concept of "winning".
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Sorry I can't explain it, you'd have to ask Ginger McCain himself.
But then you'd have to get a medium............
 
FionaM12 said:
But that still doesn't mean they grasp the concept of "winning".
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I dunno! They defo appear to get the idea between doing well and not so well. The lad I ride at the moment - he goes out on the track and he tries his hardest every step of the way. He always comes back in to big pats and a hug from me no matter what but he always carries himself more upright and prouder (well he seems to me as if he does) as he swaggers into the winners enclosure when he has done well. And isn't a zippy horse - he is an out and out 3miler so by all rights he should be pooped when he gets back. He is the same up the gallops. For the last 3 weeks we have claimed the scalp of every single horse in the yard (Podge is a 98 rated 11yo - we took out the 159, 157, 145, 136, 133 and 132 in the last week :D along with everything else we have worked with :D ) And he always swaggers home. Today he wasn't at the top of his game. Ok he took me up the hill better than the rest of the string but that was only half of what he can do and he seemed to know it. He just plodded home head stretched to the floor.

I dunno, maybe it's just me giving him personalities and emotions he doesn't really have or maybe he is picking it up from me. Who knows - one thing I would like to know though is what he would "say" to an AC! Could make for interesting reading!
 
EKW said:
I dunno, maybe it's just me giving him personalities and emotions he doesn't really have or maybe he is picking it up from me. Who knows - one thing I would like to know though is what he would "say" to an AC!
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I do wonder tbh if this is exactly why most people call in an AC? They do want to give their horse personalties & human emotions, as you say. The desire to bring that about (or their curiosity that it might be so) means they can't resist trying an AC and then clouds their opinions when they get the "result".
 
Judging by the fact the AC can repeat the perfect english speech of the animals then I'll have one out to my mare

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She's from holland :D!

Im not skeptical, im scientific. Although being a scientific person I also understand that a lot of science cannot be explained and there may be many loop holes- if everything formed from the big bang and simple elements- then who knows where connections can lie between energy and communication?

however horses do not get embarrased at coloured clothing.. they cant see colours that well and have a blurred vision up close. They also do not know what winning is- if they did then my horse would fully understand if she wins she gets more treats
 
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Charleysummer - Actually another thing that i find interesting is that if you read the things these ACs say about how they communicate, they all say the same stuff. Of course, they could be feeding off one another or go to some central con-school where they learn what to say - but they do all say that for the most part the communication happens in pictures, videos, and feelings rather than words, so they can 'speak' with animals who are from other countries. Of course that is quite convenient for them but acutally it does make sense becuase clearly we'd all expect a horse to 'think' in pictures (if you are the sort of person that thinks a horse thinks at all, if you see what I mean!).

Similarly - you say your horse doesn't know when it's winning - but don't we, time and time again, see animals in competition going out of their way to exert themselves to do well? When showjumping mine CERTAINLY know how to get me out of trouble if I mis-stride a jump off, they know their job is to jump clear and fast and they definitely definitely know when they've done that well. The concept of winning is of course different in somehting like showjumping to something like racing (much simpler!) but I don't see why it wouldn't be understood? Maybe I'm wrong - but, again, given the amount of correct informaiton gained by these people, it seems niave to reject it all becuase of being unable to suspend belief about one concept just because we don't think horses can think that!
 
Morgan123 said:
it seems niave to reject it all
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Trouble is, the "other side" would equally say it's niave to be "taken in" by animal communicators.

I started this thread in two minds, and rather wanted to believe. But in fact, as the posts have come in, I've increasingly found myself convinced it's pure superstition. The anecdotal evidence doesn't really sway me and the link to the highly recommended AC's website just made me doubt further.

Sad really, it's a lovely idea. But so is Father Christmas. :)
 
well .... I've just had a reading for my very complex little mare and I have to say that it was incredibly accurate. I told her nothing of the problems I was having with her, letting her tell me ... she was spot on on all accounts. She did tell me to do certain things in the future, which I will try, just to see if it does make any difference ... if it does I will be totally blown away.
 
FionaM12 said:
Don't worry, surely the elves will take good care of them?

Hang on, don't tell me!! Not elves too?? :eek: Nooooooooo
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:eek::eek::eek:

We need to set up a relief mission to the North Pole to take the reindeer hay. We could get all the nice HHOers to fill shoe boxes with hay and reindeer treats for them and take them up there? We could call it "Operation Christmas Deer"? :D
 
JFTD said:
:eek::eek::eek:

We need to set up a relief mission to the North Pole to take the reindeer hay. We could get all the nice HHOers to fill shoe boxes with hay and reindeer treats for them and take them up there? We could call it "Operation Christmas Deer"? :D
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Or, we could save ourselves a journey and just get an Animal Communicator to let the reindeer know that there's no Santa Clause, so they should just take care of themselves from now on.

Or is that just silly?
 
FionaM12 said:
Or, we could save ourselves a journey and just get an Animal Communicator to let the reindeer know that there's no Santa Clause, so they should just take care of themselves from now on.

Or is that just silly?
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And waste a perfectly good trip to the North pole? :confused:

But I like how you've dragged this little digression right back on topic :D
 
JFTD said:
And waste a perfectly good trip to the North pole? :confused:

But I like how you've dragged this little digression right back on topic :D
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:D:Dhahahaha! I've really enjoyed this thread. Tend to agree it's not going to tempt me off the fence though. Still suspect it's hogwash. ;)
 
I like the IDEA of animal communicators. But to be honest, I have yet to see any proof or any kind of evidence to help me believe. I think if you're around animals enough, and think logically enough - you'll realise that we are capable of understanding them without the need of a translator.
 
PucciNPoni said:
I like the IDEA of animal communicators. But to be honest, I have yet to see any proof or any kind of evidence to help me believe. I think if you're around animals enough, and think logically enough - you'll realise that we are capable of understanding them without the need of a translator.
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What a sensible post! Absolutley with you there. :)
 
To the OP

I would just like to clarify the following points in relation to your posting, particularly in response to the following para if indeed your posting is in relation to Brook! If it is not then accept my apologies!

"There's a really sad case of a lost/stolen dog near where I live. It's adoring owners are doing everything they can to get it back: maximum publicity, press, tv, radio, offering huge reward, and now they've got an AC on the case. I don't think the AC has never met the missing dog, but has described the place she believes the missing dog's at, and a person allegedly connected with its disappearance."

Firstly, the maximum publicity, press, tv, radio and huge reward are indeed correct but secondly and perhaps more importantly can I just stress that the AC has voluntarily come forward and offered help and there is no financial gain for the AC. Many people have offered help and no help is turned down, no matter how small or seemingly irrelevant the gesture. The AC is one of many and as there is a small dedicated team working very hard to find Brook then all avenues are being explored, some spending time researching on information given by the AC and others keeping the daily search of ads, contacting establishments, postering, emailing and generally doing anything that is felt necessary! Since there is a dedicated team available then following anything and everything is possible and until one is asked to open ones mind, in extreme and distressing circumstances, then it is difficult to say whether one would refuse, afterall there is no harm if you have the resource!

In a nutshell what I am trying to say is that the search is not naively exclusive to what the AC has communicated but it is vast and varied and everyones help is greatly received.

Finally, this post is not intended to be negative towards your post, I just felt it needed a little clarification! :);)
 
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