Another Question about the RAW diet

SusieT said:
'I often use the small butcher at the village for meat for us and I ask for a bone from the slop bucket thrown in.

The butchers are sometimes nervous about what to give me - even when I reassure them that whatever they have is fine. (Then they see the size of the wolf and calm down)....

But today the girl behind the counter almost refused to give me pork bones "because they are not good for dogs and they can splinter and choke the dog."

Apparantly her own dog had a problem and so this makes her an expert on the subject

I was treated to a full lecture while she bagged them up and I was instructed to supervise my dogs closely .

Needless to say I left the dogs with them while I went to the stables

Patronising cow '

How ironic- RAW feeders are allowed to share their knowledge and advice but 'others' are not?
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How desperate are you for attention?

The woman in the shop wasn't sharing knowledge - she was force feeding me her opinion, which was not required. If I wish to feed my dogs 'dangerous' bones - then it is my choice.

Anyone else interested is welcome to read this thread. Those who don't - are happy to skip this thread. I'm not interested in preaching about raw to anyone.

I didn't bother to argue with the girl in the shop but there is a world of difference in giving a bone to a raw fed dog - who will eat it and digest it completely, than giving a kibble fed dog, without the appropriate level of digestive acid, a bone purely for recreation only to have it impact.

In the first weeks of feeding raw to my dogs, they would pass shards of bone with just chicken - but now they can eat any bone and it's fully digested....there's no bone in their poop afterwards.

That's one of the reasons raw has to be introduced very gradually.
 
Another raw diet convert here.
I started my whippet (Brinny) on it 3 weeks ago with chicken wings. Took a couple of days for her to get te idea that it was her food.
My daughters whippet (pidge) has been a problem to put wieght on since we got her a year ago. Fussy eater, very small and looked like an RSPCA case.
She was started on raw 2 weeks ago as it took me a week to convince my daughter her dog wasn't goiing to die eating raw chicken so mine had to be the trial.
Again it took awhile for her to get the idea. The breakthrough was when i just threw wings on the floor and let it be every dog for herself. Amazing motivation is competition for food. Now the wings rarely even reach the floor.
Pidge looks really good after just 2 weeks. Gained lots of weight.
They have chicken or lamb mince (with bone) in evening feed as this is available from local pet food store at £3.02 per 2 klg.

Will shortly be adding in liver, heart etc (slowly) as these also available from local pet store cheap.

Picked up a second hand freeer of Ebay cheap last night so bulk sourcing to start soon. Also getting an old fashioned cast iron mincer so I can mix up feed and store frozen in meal sized portions.

Who would have thought feeding a dog could be so much fun. Excitement at meal times is great to see.

So glad I made the switch.
Will get some pics and post on here.
 
Cow tails are very amusing to watch a dog eat, Teal just played with the furry end and I eventually gave it to dylan and Teal thought it was too good to eatlol. Dylan just ate it and Buster stared at it for ages. And apparantly Dylans 20th Road Kill Pheasant was the limit for Dylan so he went hungry for a day last week.
 
soloabe said:
If i wanted to avoid an obstruction i sure wouldn't be feeding dry food. Dry food swells massively in the stomach and causes obstructions regularly.

You likely are feeding to much bone which is why she is struggling to go. If you are feeding just chicken wings for a meal they have around 30% bone so you need to add more muscle meat to even it out or you will get trouble with bowel movements.

I don't feed wings. To small and not enough meat on them. Thighs are much more balanced.

How long have you been feeding raw? what meat have you introduced so far?
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Hello stranger!! !!

We need an Abe photoshoot :)
 
SusieT, you sly fox! Are you trying to up your post count by replying to a post that doesn't really interest you and you don't raw feed anyway so why bother?

Yup, you can respond to whatever you want on here, but it's a bit sudden! I'm so thrilled you joined in the thread I got stickied, keeps it live. Many thanks!
 
Was wondering if any of you knowledgeable people could answer a question I have about the RAW diet please?

Is it necessary to feed bones? Two of my dogs are gundogs and they have been trained not to chew - if that makes sense. Will they be lacking?

Many thanks x
 
LJR said:
Was wondering if any of you knowledgeable people could answer a question I have about the RAW diet please?

Is it necessary to feed bones? Two of my dogs are gundogs and they have been trained not to chew - if that makes sense. Will they be lacking?

Many thanks x
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A lot of the raw diet has to do with raw meaty bones. You can feed without, but most dogs like to chew, it is natural. I should think they'd know the difference if you stick stuff in their bowl as opposed to when out beating and picking up? Maybe avoid whole birds at home? You can get mince with bone in, but a lot of people prefer the whole lumps of meat caveman style. :)
 
cinnamontoast said:
A lot of the raw diet has to do with raw meaty bones. You can feed without, but most dogs like to chew, it is natural. I should think they'd know the difference if you stick stuff in their bowl as opposed to when out beating and picking up? Maybe avoid whole birds at home? You can get mince with bone in, but a lot of people prefer the whole lumps of meat caveman style. :)
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Thank you x
 
I switched my mutt onto raw today. Shes been fed raw liver a fair bit in the past so her meals today consisted of raw liver for breakfast and pork ribs for tea. Is this an okay feeding arrangement.

Im having panic attacks worrying about her being in pain constipated so im probably not getting the 70/30 quite right yet but dont think im far off?

Is it okay to have a bone based meal in morning (chicken wings or pork ribs) and meat with no bones in eve (liver or mince) or vice versa. Im trying to get the balance right and want to be sure im getting it right!0
 
I'm hoping to start my three on a raw diet this week but have a couple of questions.

What do you feed as a treat/training aid? I think mine will think the world has ended if they don't have a bonio before bed! Also as my new girl is deaf I am teaching her commands using treats so need something as a substitute.

Is any dairy allowed? I have goats milk which they love. Also what about eggs as tend to have a surplus?

Thanks in advance.

Jo
 
Eggs are fine. I feed mine a dairy culture.

For hand feeding I use raw chicken mince (MMM!), liver sausage from Iceland, Webbox chub (a new discovery) hot dogs cut up, cooked chicken pieces in an emergency (expensive I know!!)

For treats you could substitute a small chicken wing, a chicken thigh, a lambs' heart or half a heart or something or you could look into cooking liver or tuna cake.
 
Thank you!

I'm quite excited about it but a little anxious too as worried about not feeding them enough and not being organised enough and running out!

Liver or tuna cake ?? Just bake bits in the oven to dry or is there an actual recipe?

I quite often end up offering the ponies a bit of dog biscuit from my pocket instead of a pony nut but I think they will be horrified if I offer a bit of minced chicken!!

So if they eat something that isn't totally raw it doesn't set them back at all and cause the runs or wind once they are established on the raw food? Both Dalmatians are terrible thieves (Blink can open a bolted door to get to the fridge to clear its contents) and all three were in the chicken run this afternoon, helping to tidy up behind the hens.
 
It hasn't set mine back (cooked chicken, hot dog bits, the Chubb stuff) but obviously all dogs are different in terms of sensitivity, I just make sure it is always meat. It's raw food and cooked kibble which does not pair well.
If you do a search of the forum for home made dog treats there will be a few recipes :)
 
Well we are four days into the new feeding regime and so far so good!

Just a couple of quick questions - do you feed it at room temp or straight from the fridge? Or even warm it a little or does that then run the risk of bacteria etc?

Is the frozen mince that petshops sell worth feeding or is it poor quality?


Who is the best supplier who will deliver to me in Sussex?

As always, many thanks!
 
Jodie3, I mainly feed at room temp, but sometimes I forget to get it out of the fridge so they get it chilled. I always feed oily fish frozen so they have to chew it. It doesn't seem to cause them any problems. The only time I'd warm food up a bit is if I had a really fussy eater (which I don't), I might warm some green tripe or flash fry offal.

I don't use the frozen mince from pet shops very often as it is more expensive than I pay, but I haven't found a problem with quality.

I don't know about suppliers in Sussex. I used to use Landywoods who I think cover most of the UK, but now I use a new local couple who only cover North Wales. Raw to go are based in Abergavenny, but courier to the whole of the UK, I haven't used them but hear good things about them. Also have a look at the dog food company, I think they may be in your area & several people on here recommend them.

Good luck
 
Thank you.

They don't seem to care what temp it is so I will stop worrying!

I've bought a couple of boxes of pet mince so I don't run out and I'm now going to google suppliers.

Dogs seem very happy on it and are crunching merrily through the bones.
 
Just a few pics from today

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Oh and Dylan says Hi

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jodie3 said:
Well we are four days into the new feeding regime and so far so good!

Just a couple of quick questions - do you feed it at room temp or straight from the fridge? Or even warm it a little or does that then run the risk of bacteria etc?

Is the frozen mince that petshops sell worth feeding or is it poor quality?


Who is the best supplier who will deliver to me in Sussex?

As always, many thanks!
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Try the dog food company
 
Another vote for Raw to Go in Abergavenny.

Great range and fab service.

I had a delivery today & we are trying venison and pheasant mixes this time. Pupster eats better than I do!
 
Partners mum just brought dog a bag of cheap kibble (argh!!!) despite the fact she knows hes fed BARF.. Bit pissed off!

So I instantly interjected that he MUST NOT have kibble on the same day he has his raw. Fine if we run out and he needs kibble for a day its not much of an issue but never ever ever when hes got his raw. She asked why? Truth is I dont really know why, I just know its bad!!

Somebody fill me in!?
 
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