Anyone else finding it hard to sell puppies?? never had so many timewasters!!!

[CorvusCorax]

cayla this is where problems arise, when working blood is introduced. alot of people cannot cope with the amount of energy working lines have, and need to burn off.
my partners friend deals in rehoming unwanted dogs and he's often got a bang on springer or lab with no faults other than it wants to work, and often inexperienced people cant handle that, they expect one walk round the block to satisfy its needs, well i can tell you from experience lack of exersize can drive a dog mad. we have recieved a springer through this and apart from running on too much, she is excellent, and its a pity she had to go through all the upheaval to finally find an understanding owner.

Just heard of a nine-month-old PTS for irreparable damage caused by hurling herself against the sides of her kennel - she basically had a bimble in the garden every day and nothing else but was from quite a high-octane sire line breed research and indeed line research goes a long way.
They kept saying she was 'mad' and laughed...yeah, you made her that way

 

[CAYLA]

Lol funny you write that cos I was going to say, I have no issues with dogs bred for working purpose but surely the whole litters are not kept as workers and some will go to family homes and because of the energy levels and there inability to deal with it, they are ending up in rescue.
The most common breeds of dog we get into rescue are

Labradors
Cockers
Springers

All very young, we rarely get an aged one of these breeds in and all because they where chewing, hyper, barking and all the usual rubbish, we rarely place them back into pet homes and we send them all to the prison service.
I recently rehomed a whole litter of working cockers, handed in a t 7 weeks.

I simply have issues with over breeding to be honest be it pedigree or X breed, but the untested varieties are def worse IMO breeders not offering back up (yes I know they are the back street variety) but its the back street variety breeds these designer crosses.
I always go off track, I cannot even remember what I was talking about

 

[PerdixPerdix]

oh god cavecanem that is hideous, poor thing.

when we get first timers interested in a puppy (i rarely sell to non working homes anyway) i'll take them around to the kennel and let them watch the pack have a mad run for a while, then gently explain that this is on top of the 8 hours they have been tearing about the countryside at work, and that maybe a working breed isnt the choice for them. and if that doesnt work they meet the spaniel that kennel walks constantly, because his previous owners left him in a shed, and i explain thats what will end up if they dont look after their pup properly, serious and deeply damaging pschological problems.

 

[PerdixPerdix]

cayla that doesnt surprise me, there are dedicated working rescues across the country now, but they are struggling too. the problem is, lab and span pups are so goddamn cute, and when properly trained, are the ideal for any family on first look, but getting through spaniel teenagerdom (as i am experiencing at the moment) is a tear your hair out period, and thats when people get second thoughts and are too quick to throw the towel. fingers crossed this one, who is 6 months (and i have him sitting, staying, quartering-ish, and working closely all to signals, just through playing in the garden, hes a good one) will end up like his mum, works like crazy but a totally different dog when she finds something cosy to snuggle on.

lol, i could talk about dogs all day, youd think after spending most of the day with them, id have something better to talk about!

 

[CorvusCorax]

lol, i could talk about dogs all day, youd think after spending most of the day with them, id have something better to talk about!

Indeed, I think we all need help
I think you've settled in just fine!

 

[prosefullstop]

Two things.

My vet has a rescued Goldendoodle. Why? Because the dog sheds like crazy, and the previous owners did not want it.

Cross-breeds are not necessarily healthier. My sister-in-law's dog--a mix of at least three different breeds--has ligament trouble in her hind legs as well as a bowed knee, the knee being present at birth. During my time volunteering with rescue, I lost count of the number of Pit mixed with severe skin allergies.

 

[CAYLA]

Indeed, I think we all need help
I think you've settled in just fine!

Speak for yourselves, u will rarely hear me talking about dogs, my main hobbing is knitting, im just off to the AAK forum now

 

[GeorgieLee]

Thanks for all your replys, even if it did turn into a debate!!!!
my mum is still advertising them for £350 because she is worried about people calling just because they are cheap, but if anyone knows of a GENUINE good loving home then I know she would take less
I am not using this to advertise I just want to find loving homes for our babys!

 

[Starbucks]

Personally, don't give a toss if a dog is pedigree or mongral, if it's a nice dog it's a nice dog!

Also, how things currently are I don't think I would buy any puppy, because there are too many dogs needing homes with people like Cayla.

 

[MurphysMinder]

Re the working dogs to pet homes thing, I have mentioned before my friends GSD. Although he is out of a show line bitch his sire was a working dog, and he has a very high drive. She wanted him to do Working Trials and is very experienced (40 years in the breed) but there have been times when she has been near to giving up with him. She got there in the end and he is now working at TD level, however, none of his litter mates went to working homes, and I know of at least one that was pts as its owners couldn't cope with it. I think breeders do need to be aware when breeding working dogs that it is highly unlikely the whole litter will end up doing the job they are bred for, and that is when problems start.

 

[Stroppy_mare 73]

Really interesting discussion!
So right that people have to understand the breed they are proposing to take on. That's one possible advantage of pedigrees, as you should be able to learn what they are like.

Every breed has its own quirks, traits, growing phases etc. It is down to a responsible breeder to ensure that potential owners are aware of everything. As well as being prepared to take the "rough with the smooth" as the pup grows up and put the work in that every dog needs/deserves.

Sadly too often that does not happen

With my breed, hounds, so many people sell them to totally unsuitable homes. I have had no end of phone calls from people who have got one, and then can't cope with the fact that they cannot let them off the lead safely, etc. They obviously had no idea about the breed they were taking on, or how to work to overcome these issues. Or understand that with some hounds you will never achieve safe off the lead work. And people then introduce bloodlines that they have not researched and do not understand that using a true working dog will lead to different issues with regards to the temperament of the dogs! That is the end of the rant!! Will get off my soap box now