Anyone know where my post went?

i think its great he is being re-homed to somewhere where he will have a happier life than the one he seems to have come from but in all honesty i dont get the whole being p******d off that people are wanting to research him?

in all honesty, if i am ever taking on a horse with any previous competition experience i will research it as much as is possible so that i can find out if it is right for me?
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Why would we have to contact particular people because you think we should ?
A suitable loaner has now been found end of story. No the horse is not unsound and will give a young rider a chance of a lifetime.
Where we advertise our horses isnt at issue.
The stupidity of one person who took it upon herself to track the horse is, Thats why H & H removed the threads.
I have no issue with people talking abou an event horse. That can only be good for all sanctuaries rehoming wonderful horses.
What IS at issue is wether one person has a right to invade other peoples privacy just because they have decided they need to know something.
How would you feel if your private business was flaunted on a website just because one person wanted to know all your business.
I would ask that now you all let the matter rest because fantastic horses DO come into rescue but if owners see all thier business across the internet then these horses will end up in tins.
So if we actually have horses best interests at heart then why keep dragging it up just because one person "has to know" yet again. It really isnt as important as a horse moving onto a fantastic future unhindered by gossip.
 
well yes and I agree with that.
But as Frosty wasnt actually likely to get a look in and certainly had not phoned me to see if I would consider her then why would she need to ? It wasnt a horse that had anything to do with her

THe wonderfull talented person he has gone to has been given all his history etc and is free to make contact with anyone she wishes. because she now loans him and its her business.
 
Horses don't "end up in tins" because of an advert, or discussions on a forum, or gossip, but because the owner took the decision to put that horse in that position in the first place!
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<font color="red">My last post on the topic as it is apparent you and I live on different planets </font>

Why would we have to contact particular people because you think we should ?
<font color="red"> Where did I say that? All I said was that was an avenue you could have explored, and if I were in your position and wanted to keep the horses name out of the equation it is what I would have done </font>

A suitable loaner has now been found end of story.
<font color="red"> Excellent </font>

No the horse is not unsound and will give a young rider a chance of a lifetime.
<font color="red"> Fantastic, I will follow his future results with great interest. Lucky young rider </font>

Where we advertise our horses isnt at issue.
<font color="red"> It isn't an issue for me at all. You are more than welcome to advertise the horse on projecthorses. But don't be so naive to think that a Badminton horse advertised on such a site won't arouse interest </font>

The stupidity of one person who took it upon herself to track the horse is, Thats why H &amp; H removed the threads.
<font color="red"> No, H&amp;H removed the threads because I expect you asked them to. Not the stupidity of the original curiosity </font>

I have no issue with people talking abou an event horse. That can only be good for all sanctuaries rehoming wonderful horses.
What IS at issue is wether one person has a right to invade other peoples privacy just because they have decided they need to know something.
<font color="red"> Having not read the original thread I don't feel I can answer this properly. But I don't see how finding out the name of a horse, that you left a million clues on in public, is invading your privacy </font>

How would you feel if your private business was flaunted on a website just because one person wanted to know all your business.
<font color="red"> If one horse is all of your business then I pity you. If my personal business was flaunted over the internet then I would be pretty sick .... but I would also ask how that business had got into the public domain and question if I was partly responsible..... </font>

I would ask that now you all let the matter rest because fantastic horses DO come into rescue but if owners see all thier business across the internet then these horses will end up in tins.
So if we actually have horses best interests at heart then why keep dragging it up just because one person "has to know" yet again. It really isnt as important as a horse moving onto a fantastic future unhindered by gossip.

<font color="red"> I'm now timing how long it takes this thread to disappear .... </font>
 
Thank you.
Please be clear he didnt end up in a terrible situation as such. Again that invades a previous owners privacy.That could then result in legal action agasints H &amp; H and hopefully Frosty for starting all this. It was simply a situation that happened and it was considered that PTS may have been the only option.
It wasnt ,he is safe and happy but STILL for someone to be intrusive for fun which may affect any future horses and that is what made me angry that someone could behave so selfishly on something that they had no involvement in at all.
Why be filled with horror and belief when it happens all day long ? I have another Eventer coming in as well as various other showing,jumping types.
We will STILL expect privacy. If you are suiable you will have details if you are not you wont.
We get horses in from families where someone has died of a terminal illness. Would it be acceptable for someone to go poking around in that ?
 
Badminton 2006 results are up on line. Chances are there are photo galleries from the event on line. Doesn't take rocket science to go through the results on the BE site, eliminate horses who are still competing with the rider they were with at Badminton (one mouse click per horse!), and then look for photos of a horse with distinctive markings. Had no interest in the thread until AM started going on about invasion of privacy. As Kerilli said, it might have been sensible to refer to 4*/top level experience, rather than a specific event, if you really care about privacy that much.
 
Horses end up in tins because the option of homing a horse in privacy goes.
If you chose to PTS a horse or to home it was questioned or "investigated " by someone how would you feel ?

In rescue nothing is done to push a person towards that way unless a horse is unsound or dangerous.
If people find it irresistable to investigate on a forum then we will lose more horses.
Is that ok with you ?
 
I am with ej123 and the others. there was certainly no neeed to say what year the horse went round in on the advert, surely you must have realised that already narrowed the search to about twenty horses (same colour). and as far as the new owner goes if she has any plans to event the horse then it will become common knowledge who it is and where she got him not because of this forum but because THE WEB IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. Much worse things have been said and done on this forum lately that adminlet run on for far longer so i think leave frosty alone if it hadnt been her it would have been someone else. I suggest AM, you are a bit more circumspect in your ads in future.
Fair play to you for saving him but there are plenty of ways to rehome without having horses easily identifiable career on an ad. We all gossip, thats a fact of life, no horse has been PTS because of that.
 
Wishfull.. couldn't agree more.. this thread has just made me come over all nosey.. i know of a certain chestnut horse that broke down at Badminton '06 shall we say its comp. name is FE, rider TB, haven't seen it since... have i guessed right (feel free to remove this post, i have no real interest in this thread, and didn't even read the last ones, i just want to see if i have guessed right or not??? )
 
AM - why cant you accept that by the way you posted on project horses- you removed any 'privacy' surrounding this horse. By making specific reference to his very recent high profile competition record, with photograph, you did all but name the horse, and therefore the previous owners. Next time you have a high profile horse come your way for rehoming try taking some of the suggestions on board from here, and be less specific (and dramatic) in your advert and then it wont arose curiousity on other forums
 
It wasnt MY privacy I was refering to it was the previous owners.

again its not my business and no my business isnt one horse.

We obviously have to advertise the horses otherwise they would never get homes so yes I am responsible for doing that. But that doesnt mean that anyone has the right to try revealing previous owners or horses names when if we intended naming the horse we would have done.
 
I am astonished that you think this deserves legal action. You are clearly delusional if you are taking none of the blame when you wrote the advert and stuck it on project horses. There are many ways to write an advert to spark interest to the right people.
I am glad that the horse has been rehomed and hope he gets a wonderful life.
 
God help any of us, with the threat of legal action , if we dare to discuss anything on here that we have seen in the public domain. I thought that was the point of forums, the sharing of information (my apologies if that sounds sarcastic).

We all have a huge interest in the welfare of horses and I personally am very sorry that this has sunk to a level where individuals are being blamed for, hypothetically, having some influence over this horse's quality of life. I wish you well in re-homing other horses but hope that you put a little more thought into any future adverts for a horse of this quality.

(Sorry Wishful, that wasn't a reply to you, it was to AM)
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Agree with you RT! You can't expect privacy when you advertise a horse nationally with a picture and then refer to it competing in the most prestigious 3DE in the world!
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Oh dear, it's such a shame that because someone is inquisitive all hell breaks loose! I can't understand the mentality of some people
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I'm naturally inquisitive and I think I'd have done exactly the same thing, because sometimes you feel the need to understand WHY horses with such a high profile as horse in question, has got to the place where it is, it's not because we're a bunch of gossips, I think it's because we ALL care about the horse!!!

It's a shame you took offence to frosty's OP as I am more than sure she/he would never have wanted this outcome.

I am glad the horse has found a nice new home, CANNOT understand why it was going to be pts if there was nothing wrong with it and I don't believe it's because the owner was overstocked, they could have just sold it????????

But a happy ending has indeed come out of it, so please, no more talk of legal action, it's just people talking and you're never going to stop that..................
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Also why mention in the ad that horese would otherwise have been PTS? What has that got to do with any future home. That comment with the fact it had done Badminton was bound to spark speculation and was totally irrelevant IMO.
 
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I dont think it deserves legal action but its a course open to previous owners who business has been slapped on here

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But don't you see that you had a role in that as well by stating the year it competed in a very high profile tournament, with a photograph, and that you saved the horse from being shot?
 
Of course it will become public knowlege but then she is involved with the horse. and she certainly would be making comments or guessing the truth because she is aware and its no one elses business.

She hasnt come on here speculating who owned it and who is the horse and shame on owners etc.
It was just gossip.

With hindsight we now truly understand that there are some people out there who do things no one could imagine that may affect the welfare of some horses so of course we would have to take that into consideration.
Its just never ever happened before. I hope that it is something that will be learned from and I hope that Frosty is never in a position where she has to give up a horse and then finds someone elses opinion slapped accross the internet just for someone elses fun.
It wasnt like it was a horse that Frosty would ever have had a chance with so there was no reason.
Had she apologised and understood then that would have been the end but instead she comes on like she did something good.
 
Sorry but why do you keep saying that "It wasnt like it was a horse that Frosty would ever have had a chance" that's not very fair, how do you know that?
 
Why on earth should frosty apologise? i didnt see Helen Wilson or her connections on here a couple of days ago when there was speculation about tip top tiger who at that point was a lease ad on a web site, since been in horse and hound. Cant see the difference myself. And
And how do you know you have the horse whole history? it seems to me that if you did then there wouldnt be any speculation nor would you have advertised it as you did. No matter how diffficult, horrsesw that are still fit and well, without history of injury and still capable of 'three day eventing at a high level do not need to be advertised on project horses. if there is any doubt about its history better say nothing about it cos one thing i can tell you for sure and this thread demonstrates is that there are no secrets in eventing.
 
Leave Frosty alone; she did nothing wrong. If it hadnt been her putting up that post- it would have been any one of us eventers on here that is for sure.

We on HHO have done nothing wrong either; and have merely been debating upon which horse it was and questioning why it had ended up like this. Pure natural human curiosity.

There was nothing defamatory, and in fact up until the point that you came online it was all wonderfull advertising for your business and all the posts would have done nothing but highlight the wonderfull and selfless work that you do.

However since you joined HHO all that has been achieved is this; a good stituation has been made bad. You are clearly delusional and have no true grasp of the facts nor do you have an understanding of how the real world works. We would be therefore rather hesistant and concerned about approaching such a sanctury in the future should any one of us be in the position to give another resuce horse a home.
How sad it had to end up like this.
 
I have held my tongue throughout this but now just have to comment...
AM - the ONLY one damaging the reputation of your business is yourself. Prior to your appearance on these threads I would have said you were doing wonderful work (but perhaps a little inept at the advertising side of things!) whereas now I can safely say that I will not be supporting your venture when the time comes that I am looking for another horse - for that you only have yourself to blame
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I don't want to add to the flames but I'm just interested: AM - you keep bandying words like "legal action" around. Please tell me precisely WHICH tort you think previous owners could sue under? As far as I can see there isn't one. Nothing defamatory has been said and you might like to THINK you can sue for "invasion of privacy"


But you can't
 
promised myself i wouldn't reply again but....

No one's privacy was invaded, all information gathered and posted last night was freely available on the internet to any person who wished to find it. I was the one who eventually worked out who the horse was, all the necessary info was taken from your ad , the BE site and the Badminton website.

Again I state had you said simply it was an advanced horse you would have attracted the right people without all this fuss but you don't seem to understand that.

Good luck bringing legal action against anyone as you wont succeed nor will the present/old owners as they is no legal grounding. I suggest you study a bit more english statute. (something thankfully or actually not I did for 5 years even if most went in one ear and out the other!)

Also interestingly at NO point has the owner or previous owner been mentioned so how could their reputation have been damaged if no one knows who they are!?!
 
I was puzzled what law she thought Frosty had broken, as I followed the intitial thread. I hadn't realised that normal human curiosity was illegal. Otherwise an awful lot of us would be in trouble.

The content of the advert was inviting comment, it just seems that AM doesn't want to admit this to herself.

Anyway best wishes to the horse. I can't believe that it is problem free if it has ended up being rehomed in this way. Of course I freely admit that I could be wrong - before I get sued by anybody.
 
I'm sorry, all the info is on the web, people have every right to follow up on anything they see on the web. You advertised it. It's like people on the event circuit WILL learn of where this horse has been because that is what happens. you are a bit precious and given your attitude on here I don't think I would ever consider loaning a horse from you ad wouldn't see you in a good light.
 
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