lannerch
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Lol both very tempting
Are horse sales slowing down?
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AdorableAlice
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Cheap to keep, no need to shoe either, one you can’t get its feet up so can’t shoe it and the other doesn’t need shoes as you will be be too injured to be able to ride it. Big savings to be had on both.
Wishfilly
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Just out of curiosity, do you know the horses or are they being advertised (semi?) honestly?
AdorableAlice
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Honest adverts available for anyone to see.
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
While I was looking two months ago I saw two horses sell. One advertised as not being able to sit on it after mounting, but if you stayed standing for a while it was OK. And the other would not canter in a school, but buck, but was fine to hack. Gone in a day, both of them.
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Cheval Gal
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Absolutely this
lookingforadvice
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People that do this (buy animals they can’t keep long term) make me so angry, it’s the same with dogs and other pets
southerncomfort
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Good luck Red. She sounds lovely and I reckon you'll be inundated with enquiries.
gallopingby
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As puzzled says in some areas breeding slowed / has slowed because there wasn’t the market for people wanting to buy at the true cost of production and so breeders were not able to produce and cover their costs.
Some people still seem to think the cost of a well schooled horse should be under £3000. The most basic cost analysis should show that this just isn’t viable, unless you’re ‘rescuing’ a coloured cob that’s been indiscriminately bred.
There will always be a few people who sadly have to sell because they can no longer afford the costs of keeping a horse but hopefully these will remain in the minority and a decent horse should command a ‘reasonable’ price. For reasonable please read equal to the cost of producing without a hugely excessive profit on top.
Some people still seem to think the cost of a well schooled horse should be under £3000. The most basic cost analysis should show that this just isn’t viable, unless you’re ‘rescuing’ a coloured cob that’s been indiscriminately bred.
There will always be a few people who sadly have to sell because they can no longer afford the costs of keeping a horse but hopefully these will remain in the minority and a decent horse should command a ‘reasonable’ price. For reasonable please read equal to the cost of producing without a hugely excessive profit on top.
Goldenstar
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Nice But run of the mill horses between 6 and 12k are selling like hot cakes .
I am bemused.
I am bemused.
Xmasha
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Breeders have complained that they’ve never got a fair return on horses , which is true . We really shouldnt be complaining that average horses are fetching this much .
Long may it last .
lannerch
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Exactly because if breeders do not get a fair return why bother breeding them which will make good horses in the future even harder to find . For what it’s worth I buy young unbroken and have trained/train , not a cheap or quick way either but at least that way you get a good choice .
Red-1
I used to be decisive, now I'm not so sure...
Thank you. Within an hour of the advert going live, the phone calls started. I did turn some people away, including after they had ridden (and offered full price) because they weren't the match I hoped for. But, only 1 day after advertising, a lovely family came, who appear competent and kind.
I had to wait (because of the BH weekend) but she was vetted, passed and had now gone. The phone never stopped ringing!
I hope that they have all the fun I hoped to have before mum had her fall (bringing on dementia) and the fallout messed with my head! She is a fabulous horse.
I am considering waiting a couple of months for the price bubble to burst before buying my next horse. I am wanting a family friend type, but who has a bit of go. I reckon after Xmas there will be a lot more on the market.
BTW, the horse that was £12,500 when I set off and £17,500 as I arrived is now on his way back down, currently £14,500. Obviously that greedy tactic didn't work for them
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ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
BTW, the horse that was £12,500 when I set off and £17,500 as I arrived is now on his way back down, currently £14,500. Obviously that greedy tactic didn't work for them
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Wishfilly
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I have no problem with horses fetching the money they are worth, and I agree that breeders and producers of good horses deserve a return on their effort. As a (prospective) buyer at the moment, the issue for me is the speed with which horses/ponies are being snapped up- I really don't want to end up making a snap decision on a horse/pony and buying the wrong one!
I think a lot at the lower end of the market is being snapped up very quickly still, but things at the slightly higher end seem to be slowing down a little locally (just based on the adverts I am seeing).
southerncomfort
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Thank you. Within an hour of the advert going live, the phone calls started. I did turn some people away, including after they had ridden (and offered full price) because they weren't the match I hoped for. But, only 1 day after advertising, a lovely family came, who appear competent and kind.
I had to wait (because of the BH weekend) but she was vetted, passed and had now gone. The phone never stopped ringing!
I hope that they have all the fun I hoped to have before mum had her fall (bringing on dementia) and the fallout messed with my head! She is a fabulous horse.
I am considering waiting a couple of months for the price bubble to burst before buying my next horse. I am wanting a family friend type, but who has a bit of go. I reckon after Xmas there will be a lot more on the market.
BTW, the horse that was £12,500 when I set off and £17,500 as I arrived is now on his way back down, currently £14,500. Obviously that greedy tactic didn't work for them
I'm so pleased that you found her a lovely home although I imagine it must be bittersweet for you.
I imagine the horse you were going to view will be back down to original asking price in short order.
southerncomfort
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I'm looking for an unspoilt, unbacked youngster at the moment and I'm seeing a lot of ads for just backed babies (some not even 3 yet) that looked to have just had saddle and rider chucked on them and then immediately advertised for sale, presumably to try and take advantage of the current high prices.
Also lots 'backed and turned away....sold from field due to no rider'. No doubt some will be genuine but some will describe as backed and turned away simply because a backed pony commands a bigger price.
The current market is making me very cynical!
Also lots 'backed and turned away....sold from field due to no rider'. No doubt some will be genuine but some will describe as backed and turned away simply because a backed pony commands a bigger price.
The current market is making me very cynical!
Wishfilly
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I'm not looking for a youngster, but I've seen a lot of just backed three year olds on the market too, and I was assuming a similar reason.
scruffyponies
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Anybody know what the NF foals are fetching at Beaulieu Road this year?
A good NF will do anything a Connie will do, and I refuse to believe the prices have got all that silly.
<----- he was 10 guineas (£10.50) not that long ago.
A good NF will do anything a Connie will do, and I refuse to believe the prices have got all that silly.
<----- he was 10 guineas (£10.50) not that long ago.
Goldenstar
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I bought yesterday .
A 16.2 ten yo draught cross Clydesdale or Belgium draught ( he has no breeding papers )
He was at a dealer producer I know well on sales livery they had him five days did two days hound exercising and put a few pictures on their Fb page simply saying 16.2 ten years nothing else .
When I rang they had three viewing booked for yesterday .
I got there first .
I saw him jumped but MrGS and they took him out for hack he jumped some logs and hunt jumps .
When you see a nice kind up to weight gents hunter with a good pop you have to move fast .
I made an asking price offer based on them not letting anyone else ride him .
l made the dealer ring the people who where on their way and turn them back as he was doing that I rang my vet called in all my favours and had him on the yard in less than half an hour .
Horse passed I rushed home MrGS paid the owner I drove brought him home .
It’s fast market atm for horses that will do a job .
6.5 k for a severely fat ( obese ) horse with mites but I like him and is a good price for what he is at.
I have some work to do to get make the horse he should be but I am extremely pleased to have got the job done .
A 16.2 ten yo draught cross Clydesdale or Belgium draught ( he has no breeding papers )
He was at a dealer producer I know well on sales livery they had him five days did two days hound exercising and put a few pictures on their Fb page simply saying 16.2 ten years nothing else .
When I rang they had three viewing booked for yesterday .
I got there first .
I saw him jumped but MrGS and they took him out for hack he jumped some logs and hunt jumps .
When you see a nice kind up to weight gents hunter with a good pop you have to move fast .
I made an asking price offer based on them not letting anyone else ride him .
l made the dealer ring the people who where on their way and turn them back as he was doing that I rang my vet called in all my favours and had him on the yard in less than half an hour .
Horse passed I rushed home MrGS paid the owner I drove brought him home .
It’s fast market atm for horses that will do a job .
6.5 k for a severely fat ( obese ) horse with mites but I like him and is a good price for what he is at.
I have some work to do to get make the horse he should be but I am extremely pleased to have got the job done .
ycbm
Einstein would be proud of my Insanity...
wow, that's exciting GS!
SO1
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Red-1
I used to be decisive, now I'm not so sure...
The horse that increased by £5000 from £12,500 to £17,500 in the space of a car journey as I was travelling to view is now down to £13,500.
Maybe he was at the 'right' price in the first place after all?
Maybe he was at the 'right' price in the first place after all?
southerncomfort
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Wonder how much they've spent on food livery etc since then! ?
I enquired about a 4 year old native with just basic handling and they wanted £2500 which i decided was a bit too much. A week later I bought a smashing 4 year old registered Fell pony, also with basic handling, for just over a grand. Absolutely thrilled with him!
I enquired about a 4 year old native with just basic handling and they wanted £2500 which i decided was a bit too much. A week later I bought a smashing 4 year old registered Fell pony, also with basic handling, for just over a grand. Absolutely thrilled with him!
Red-1
I used to be decisive, now I'm not so sure...
Well done!
Yes, I think they would have got the £12,500 at that time, I was intending to buy anyway. Don't think they would get even £12,500 now. Pre-covid I would have priced him at 8K if he was everything they said. Maybe 8.5 as he was a fancy colour.
Anyway, I bought my new one at a fraction of the price.