Bad name for both horse owners and farriers!

It doesnt matter what job you are in men and woman flirt and have affairs FACT. All that matters is that you trust each other.

My OH had a lady flirt and buy him sexy birthday and xmas cards for years at work. We used to laugh about it. I trust him 100% so was not bothered/threatened by it.
 
Just as I expected...attacked, by most of you.

I was ranting about both badly behaved parties...BOTH! And my perceved 'anger' by some of you, is not about my own relationship!

And no, my husband has never cheated on me, and I've never been cheated on by anyone else (to my knowledge)...I have, however, seen far too many women with broken hearts, families and lives - including close female friends and my own family members- due to their partners/husbands having flings, affairs, and it is heart-breaking to witness, and enfuriates me that women can even DO that to other women wthout a second thought for the emotional agony they inflict on another woman which they are partly responsible for.

I have often been on calls with my husband, but I also work, so don't go along too often, and every one of my husband's clients I've met have been lovely! My husband has been a farrier for ten years and has over 200 clients - almost all of whom are great...the ones who bounce cheques, don't show up for an agreed appointment (repeatedly), or over-step the mark in some way, are sacked by my husband, and he is turning clients down as he can't fit them all in! So he's hardly a bad farrier. And although he doesn't keep horses, doesn't want to either!, and doesn't adore horses, he DOES take great pride and interest in the remedial side of farriery and feels really good when he's fixed a horse where vets have failed...plus, the wages - though earned!- aren't bad...I'm sorry, I'm being HONEST!

It IS a fact that many farriers ARE in it for the money they can potentially earn! That comes direct from the horses mouths (Farriers!) if those of you with steel knickers will excuse the punship!...And it IS a fact that many farriers, after years of back-breaking work wonder if it was ever a good idea!

Please note that I say SOME and MANY, when making reference to badly behaved women and/or badly behaved farriers.

I did not say AAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!

I'm also aware, and totally in agreement that it takes two to mess around, and I did reference that fact! And also entirely mindful that this kind of thing goes on in all professions...I work with mostly men! And my husband gets a bit jealous - in a jokey way - at times, and worries that I might be swept off by some other guy...so, erm, I'm not worried that my chap would do the dirty on me...but I am, (and I do accept that some of you perceive me as being OTT with my strength of opinion,) fiercely against unfaithfulness - in fact, all forms of betrayal! I have rocked a sobbing woman (and man!) in my arms once too often, all due to firting that went further, and further, and then destroyed a bunch of people.

Some of your responses made me giggle...I thought 'you cheeky mare' here and there (oh! punship again...any steel knickers creeking yet?) and grinned...and one or two were very intuitive and I'd have you over for dinner and put the world to rights with you, any day of the week.

I've pounded through adversity in my life, so I guess that leaves me with a sword and shield in my hands - not always for attack I might add! I've seen horrific things happen to close ones, and have fought cancer myself...so I guess you could describe me as a little fierce in some areas. Maybe that's a failing to some, but to me it's strength - and I'm still quite young! Imagine what I'll be like when I'm 50-something!

And erm, no, I don't consider "Hi, would you like a cuppa?" as flirting ...can I just illustrate here, that I'm no Victorian Aunt, prude, nor do I look like the back end of an arthritic cow...I know the difference between banter and serious attempts to start an affair. I am entitled to voice my opinion just as you all are.

I do not agree with unfaithfulness. I never will. And I've seen too many I care about go through Hell, because of it.

Some of you had excellent quips of wisdom. Some of you were just childish. Some of you made me giggle, and some of you made me step back and look closely at my first posting...but I'm afraid the bottom line is the same: I was horrified to read - it was more like Facebook 'material' than a forum such as this - the boastings of what appeared to be a serious seeking of an affair with a professional farrier...and being the wife of a farrier (and no I'm not a battle-axe) I felt strongly (and I am ALLOWED to People! As are YOU!) about it...We all go through terrible times...We all have horrors to face...But, speaking for myself, I would never NEVER attempt to interfere with another woman's relationship. Betrayal of any kind doesn't sit well with me.

As for the other stuff on here...it's been great reading!

Sorry I'm hated!
 
If i have got this correct, the farrier in question was single at the time, yes he had recently split from his girlfriend but was single.
With young lads out dying in afghanistan i think in the grand scheme of things this is a minor issue and people should make up their own opinions and keep them to themselves. As i mentioned before both the girl and farrier would be so upset that if they knew they were being gossiped about. The girl talked openly and honestly to people she considered friends, i dont see a problem with that. No one did anything wrong

With respect Stressage21 your friend chose a public internet forum to talk about it, which I'm not being funny doesn't really equate to talking openly to friends!

This resulting thread is also on an open internet forum and is likely to get responses and opinions from anyone who chooses to respond, if the girl who started it all didn't want to end up in a situation where she might be talked about, then perhaps the worst course of action taken was to discuss it openly on an internet forum?

Whether this thread is actually from said farriers OH who knows, it could very well be a troll, but it does raise what I think is an interesting point that some people appear to be missing!

You are right, there are bigger and much more serious things out there in the world to worry about, and there's probably a forum for those as well.
 
I think you're over-stating the case here. You weren't attacked by most and I don't think there's a lot of evidence of you being "hated".


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Just as I expected...attacked, by most of you.

I was ranting about both badly behaved parties...BOTH! And my perceved 'anger' by some of you, is not about my own relationship!

And no, my husband has never cheated on me, and I've never been cheated on by anyone else (to my knowledge)...I have, however, seen far too many women with broken hearts, families and lives - including close female friends and my own family members- due to their partners/husbands having flings, affairs, and it is heart-breaking to witness, and enfuriates me that women can even DO that to other women wthout a second thought for the emotional agony they inflict on another woman which they are partly responsible for.

I have often been on calls with my husband, but I also work, so don't go along too often, and every one of my husband's clients I've met have been lovely! My husband has been a farrier for ten years and has over 200 clients - almost all of whom are great...the ones who bounce cheques, don't show up for an agreed appointment (repeatedly), or over-step the mark in some way, are sacked by my husband, and he is turning clients down as he can't fit them all in! So he's hardly a bad farrier. And although he doesn't keep horses, doesn't want to either!, and doesn't adore horses, he DOES take great pride and interest in the remedial side of farriery and feels really good when he's fixed a horse where vets have failed...plus, the wages - though earned!- aren't bad...I'm sorry, I'm being HONEST!

It IS a fact that many farriers ARE in it for the money they can potentially earn! That comes direct from the horses mouths (Farriers!) if those of you with steel knickers will excuse the punship!...And it IS a fact that many farriers, after years of back-breaking work wonder if it was ever a good idea!

Please note that I say SOME and MANY, when making reference to badly behaved women and/or badly behaved farriers.

I did not say AAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!

I'm also aware, and totally in agreement that it takes two to mess around, and I did reference that fact! And also entirely mindful that this kind of thing goes on in all professions...I work with mostly men! And my husband gets a bit jealous - in a jokey way - at times, and worries that I might be swept off by some other guy...so, erm, I'm not worried that my chap would do the dirty on me...but I am, (and I do accept that some of you perceive me as being OTT with my strength of opinion,) fiercely against unfaithfulness - in fact, all forms of betrayal! I have rocked a sobbing woman (and man!) in my arms once too often, all due to firting that went further, and further, and then destroyed a bunch of people.

Some of your responses made me giggle...I thought 'you cheeky mare' here and there (oh! punship again...any steel knickers creeking yet?) and grinned...and one or two were very intuitive and I'd have you over for dinner and put the world to rights with you, any day of the week.

I've pounded through adversity in my life, so I guess that leaves me with a sword and shield in my hands - not always for attack I might add! I've seen horrific things happen to close ones, and have fought cancer myself...so I guess you could describe me as a little fierce in some areas. Maybe that's a failing to some, but to me it's strength - and I'm still quite young! Imagine what I'll be like when I'm 50-something!

And erm, no, I don't consider "Hi, would you like a cuppa?" as flirting ...can I just illustrate here, that I'm no Victorian Aunt, prude, nor do I look like the back end of an arthritic cow...I know the difference between banter and serious attempts to start an affair. I am entitled to voice my opinion just as you all are.

I do not agree with unfaithfulness. I never will. And I've seen too many I care about go through Hell, because of it.

Some of you had excellent quips of wisdom. Some of you were just childish. Some of you made me giggle, and some of you made me step back and look closely at my first posting...but I'm afraid the bottom line is the same: I was horrified to read - it was more like Facebook 'material' than a forum such as this - the boastings of what appeared to be a serious seeking of an affair with a professional farrier...and being the wife of a farrier (and no I'm not a battle-axe) I felt strongly (and I am ALLOWED to People! As are YOU!) about it...We all go through terrible times...We all have horrors to face...But, speaking for myself, I would never NEVER attempt to interfere with another woman's relationship. Betrayal of any kind doesn't sit well with me.

As for the other stuff on here...it's been great reading!

Sorry I'm hated!
 
Gosh, I'd love to know what part of the UK has all these flirt worthy hot bits of stuff, because it sure as hell isn't NE scotland!

FWIW my last farrier looked like Jim Royal....and NOW it's a woman who is doing them all because they're barefoot.

I wonder if there's some kind of Farrier Super Injunction out there? Sometimes I woner if Jackie Collins wrote Riders after a years work experience...just substituted Farriers for Showjumpers?
 
Just as I expected...attacked, by most of you.

I was ranting about both badly behaved parties...BOTH! And my perceved 'anger' by some of you, is not about my own relationship!

And no, my husband has never cheated on me, and I've never been cheated on by anyone else (to my knowledge)...I have, however, seen far too many women with broken hearts, families and lives - including close female friends and my own family members- due to their partners/husbands having flings, affairs, and it is heart-breaking to witness, and enfuriates me that women can even DO that to other women wthout a second thought for the emotional agony they inflict on another woman which they are partly responsible for.

I have often been on calls with my husband, but I also work, so don't go along too often, and every one of my husband's clients I've met have been lovely! My husband has been a farrier for ten years and has over 200 clients - almost all of whom are great...the ones who bounce cheques, don't show up for an agreed appointment (repeatedly), or over-step the mark in some way, are sacked by my husband, and he is turning clients down as he can't fit them all in! So he's hardly a bad farrier. And although he doesn't keep horses, doesn't want to either!, and doesn't adore horses, he DOES take great pride and interest in the remedial side of farriery and feels really good when he's fixed a horse where vets have failed...plus, the wages - though earned!- aren't bad...I'm sorry, I'm being HONEST!

It IS a fact that many farriers ARE in it for the money they can potentially earn! That comes direct from the horses mouths (Farriers!) if those of you with steel knickers will excuse the punship!...And it IS a fact that many farriers, after years of back-breaking work wonder if it was ever a good idea!

Please note that I say SOME and MANY, when making reference to badly behaved women and/or badly behaved farriers.

I did not say AAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL!!!

I'm also aware, and totally in agreement that it takes two to mess around, and I did reference that fact! And also entirely mindful that this kind of thing goes on in all professions...I work with mostly men! And my husband gets a bit jealous - in a jokey way - at times, and worries that I might be swept off by some other guy...so, erm, I'm not worried that my chap would do the dirty on me...but I am, (and I do accept that some of you perceive me as being OTT with my strength of opinion,) fiercely against unfaithfulness - in fact, all forms of betrayal! I have rocked a sobbing woman (and man!) in my arms once too often, all due to firting that went further, and further, and then destroyed a bunch of people.

Some of your responses made me giggle...I thought 'you cheeky mare' here and there (oh! punship again...any steel knickers creeking yet?) and grinned...and one or two were very intuitive and I'd have you over for dinner and put the world to rights with you, any day of the week.

I've pounded through adversity in my life, so I guess that leaves me with a sword and shield in my hands - not always for attack I might add! I've seen horrific things happen to close ones, and have fought cancer myself...so I guess you could describe me as a little fierce in some areas. Maybe that's a failing to some, but to me it's strength - and I'm still quite young! Imagine what I'll be like when I'm 50-something!

And erm, no, I don't consider "Hi, would you like a cuppa?" as flirting ...can I just illustrate here, that I'm no Victorian Aunt, prude, nor do I look like the back end of an arthritic cow...I know the difference between banter and serious attempts to start an affair. I am entitled to voice my opinion just as you all are.

I do not agree with unfaithfulness. I never will. And I've seen too many I care about go through Hell, because of it.

Some of you had excellent quips of wisdom. Some of you were just childish. Some of you made me giggle, and some of you made me step back and look closely at my first posting...but I'm afraid the bottom line is the same: I was horrified to read - it was more like Facebook 'material' than a forum such as this - the boastings of what appeared to be a serious seeking of an affair with a professional farrier...and being the wife of a farrier (and no I'm not a battle-axe) I felt strongly (and I am ALLOWED to People! As are YOU!) about it...We all go through terrible times...We all have horrors to face...But, speaking for myself, I would never NEVER attempt to interfere with another woman's relationship. Betrayal of any kind doesn't sit well with me.

As for the other stuff on here...it's been great reading!

Sorry I'm hated!

Gosh you aren't hated!!!!!

You seem very passionate about your beliefs! and very much like a thread I started yesterday things go way off track and people rant on!

I never read the original thread, so was a bit of a cheeky monkey in replying!

I personally like it when women flirt with my husband, makes me feel ooohhh they want him, does that make sense.

I hate betrayal too, I trust my husband but if he ever cheated on me I wouldn't blame the woman I would blame him, we all make our own decisions, I could have cheated with men openly wanting me, but I never would!ge

My parents have been together since 17, now 65! It's all about family values really! x
 
Married/with OH farriers aside, I do wonder, if there was never any flirting/pursuing a fling in a professional situation going on, how on Earth would people get together, ever?

I do also wonder how much cringing Starzaan would be doing if she read what she wrote in 10 years time... writing it all in her personal (paper version) of a dairy is one thing, but putting it all out in the open on a forum full of her potential clients (she is, after all, trying to be a professional in an equestrian field) is completely another.

Anyway, it's all fun reading.

My farrier is quite cute, and we do have quite a lot of banter between us, we are also both in happy, stable relationships and our respective OHs have absolutely no reason to worry - so they don't :)
 
Met some slappers of the female sort and some of the male...if you play around you play around..it's now't to do with your hobby, employment or a situation it's a character flaw. Some have it some don't, if you trust your OH's and they trust you then what's the problem with some sad crusty hussy making themselves look stupid? We've got one on our yard and it's a great source of entertainment, watch the slut run when a new man arrives, watch the man preen himself from the attention, watch the man realise he's going to be eaten alive, watch the man run, watch the slut deflate, then lippy comes out and move on to the next victim. Hours of fun. :D
 
Gosh, I'd love to know what part of the UK has all these flirt worthy hot bits of stuff, because it sure as hell isn't NE scotland!

FWIW my last farrier looked like Jim Royal....and NOW it's a woman who is doing them all because they're barefoot.

I wonder if there's some kind of Farrier Super Injunction out there? Sometimes I woner if Jackie Collins wrote Riders after a years work experience...just substituted Farriers for Showjumpers?

Jilly Cooper wrote Riders, and IIRC, some of it was set in Gloucestershire, which is where Starzaan is!
 
OP for what its worth, I do not agree with people who target some one who is in a relationship. Its plain wrong.

HOWEVER, I just re-read your post and if I was asked to sum it up it would be "Horsey women spend all their time flirting with farriers, who hate them, hate their horses and only do the job because it pays the bills, and actually, hate people in general which is why they all want to turn up to a deserted yard. Horsey women need to get a grip and stop calling out farriers so they can laid and just make sure their horse is shod instead."

That's quite insulting. The horsey world is not full of women who are throwing themselves at any thing filling out the front of trousers on a yard. Most of the women on my yard can only afford a horse because they are in a relationship where there are two incomes coming in. As for people who stalk, they are in every walk of life.

Flirting and a bit of banter does happen, and personally, I think flirting makes the world go round. If its fun, makes the other person feel good about themselves and no one says anything they would not be happy to say in front of each other's partners, there is no harm. I have a lovely farrier, who is always laughing and joking (not necessarily flirting). It would be awful to think he viewed me, my horses and every one else on the yard in the way you claim your OH and all his peers do. That's what everybody meant. :)

Stressage21, as another poster pointed out, no one would be able to gossip about the farrier if your friend hadn't posted about him, in quite a bit of detail, on a public forum. If she wants to talk openly and honestly with friends, invite them round to her house for a gossip over a glass of wine. If the said farrier does get angry, I don't think he will be blaming the OP for making a holy show of him, do you?

PS. I don't hate you either OP! :D
 
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Really nothing to do with farriers or horse owners, you could pick examples of this behaviour out of any profession tbh. It does seem like quite a personnel attack on all female horse owners though. Ive never met a farrier who didnt enjoy there job as its not just the horses they are coming out to see, its the clients aswell. Offcourse the money is a very important factor because if there was no profit in being a farrier then we would have a huge shortage. It literally a back breaking job.
I did have a farrier who was a total dog when it came to woman and would flirt uncontrollably but like a dog a firm NO! will normally suffice! lol We actually used to find his attempts quite amusing. :) As people have said, it takes two to tango. People need to be responsible for there own actions!
 
HAHA that was just like my farrier who I stabled my horse with, he would take me in the woods with the horses and say right I am going to get lost in here with you now, stuff like that, but was soooo harmless!! I just used to tell him to bleep off, he loved it! Infact he spoke to me exactly the same with my husband present, much to everyones amusement, I think some people can just get away with it and you know full well its just light hearted fun!

There is a big difference tho, we were at a party once and this girl who is the local slapper told my husband she had no knickers on, and would he like to feel to prove it!!!! :eek: Now that is a step further!
 
Seriously, most of the posts that I think the OP is referring to were done very much tongue in cheek!

I adore my farrier (no, I don't fancy him) he has a lovely wife and new baby and the reason I adore him is he looks after my horse's feet so well and for many of us our horse's are our lives. So it makes sense sometimes that whilst you may take the gratitude out of context, my farriers wife has met me and knows I'm just after his superb knowledge and nothing else! :)
 
Gosh you aren't hated!!!!!

You seem very passionate about your beliefs! and very much like a thread I started yesterday things go way off track and people rant on!

I never read the original thread, so was a bit of a cheeky monkey in replying!

I personally like it when women flirt with my husband, makes me feel ooohhh they want him, does that make sense.

I hate betrayal too, I trust my husband but if he ever cheated on me I wouldn't blame the woman I would blame him, we all make our own decisions, I could have cheated with men openly wanting me, but I never would!ge

My parents have been together since 17, now 65! It's all about family values really! x

Family vlues. Totally agree! ...although, erm, I'd blame both of them!...Hope it never happens to me or any one of you!
 
Gosh, I'd love to know what part of the UK has all these flirt worthy hot bits of stuff, because it sure as hell isn't NE scotland!

FWIW my last farrier looked like Jim Royal....and NOW it's a woman who is doing them all because they're barefoot.

I wonder if there's some kind of Farrier Super Injunction out there? Sometimes I woner if Jackie Collins wrote Riders after a years work experience...just substituted Farriers for Showjumpers?

They must be further down south as there arnt any in the south of Scotland either! :( lol
 
I would like to take a moment to comment on this thread.
I know both the girl and the farrier that are the source of this thread.

Firstly, the farrier is an exceptional farrier who is always professional and very dedicated to his work. I have known him for years and he is a very good friend. I know his situation and he would be most u[set that there was mindless gossip flying about on the internet about him by people who dont even know the situation. He is well respected as one of the best lads in the area. He works damn hard and is good at what he does, why does this mean he should be reported!!!

Secondly, the girl in question is also a friend. She has had a rough time recently and if you actually knew the situation I am sure that you would be saying such judgmental things about a poor girl who has had a life threatening condition for the last 6 months. She and the farrier have resolved their problems and are friends again.

This sitiuation is not rare, we are all young and have fallen for people that perhaps we shouldnt have done in the past but the ability to move on ins within us all, which my two friends have demonstrated.
Please get the facts before you judge people on these forums it is unfair and nasty.

Both of my friends are wonderful people and would be horribly upset to learn this.

Lesson then....don't broadcast your fantasies about real people all over t'internet:confused: Imagine if his wife read it? If it were me- I would be furious.....

My OH is a very fanciable bit of rough :p he works with mainly women and he is a manager of mainly young women. I don't doubt for one minute that several of them fancy him.....that's fine by me, I fancy him too and I like to think I have good taste....I don't mind banter, but if I thought someone was being over-friendly or they were trying to lead my OH astray I would be pretty pissed. I don't for one minute think he would stray but its the fact that someone - who knows he is married with kids- would even TRY to tempt him. Thats not on really.
 
OP for what its worth, I do not agree with people who target some one who is in a relationship. Its plain wrong.

HOWEVER, I just re-read your post and if I was asked to sum it up it would be "Horsey women spend all their time flirting with farriers, who hate them, hate their horses and only do the job because it pays the bills, and actually, hate people in general which is why they all want to turn up to a deserted yard. Horsey women need to get a grip and stop calling out farriers so they can laid and just make sure their horse is shod instead."

That's quite insulting. The horsey world is not full of women who are throwing themselves at any thing filling out the front of trousers on a yard. Most of the women on my yard can only afford a horse because they are in a relationship where there are two incomes coming in. As for people who stalk, they are in every walk of life.

Flirting and a bit of banter does happen, and personally, I think flirting makes the world go round. If its fun, makes the other person feel good about themselves and no one says anything they would not be happy to say in front of each other's partners, there is no harm. I have a lovely farrier, who is always laughing and joking (not necessarily flirting). It would be awful to think he viewed me, my horses and every one else on the yard in the way you claim your OH and all his peers do. That's what everybody meant. :)

Stressage21, as another poster pointed out, no one would be able to gossip about the farrier if your friend hadn't posted about him, in quite a bit of detail, on a public forum. If she wants to talk openly and honestly with friends, invite them round to her house for a gossip over a glass of wine. If the said farrier does get angry, I don't think he will be blaming the OP for making a holy show of him, do you?

PS. I don't hate you either OP! :D

Nope, didn't mean to imply that ALL and every farrier is a bad lad, nor did I intend to tar all women with the same brush - was tryin to stress that if that sort of open-air declaration of pursuing a 'spoken for' farrier is encouraged and accepted as the norm by most others, then it's going to cause bad reps to develop, widespread lack of trust - and there are too many men and women who find it so hard to trust as it is - on both sides...I am NOT attacking or tarring all women/horse owners OR all farriers ...the farrier-Client relationship should be a good one: for the welfare of the horse...If the farrier/plumber/astronaut is single, then of course there's no problem revealing a crush - but if they're NOT, then doesn't it matter that the girlfriend/wife of said farrier/plumber/astronaut might read about/hear about it, and get crushed? That's what I care about the most...but perhaps I put it in too strong a way, or worded my OP not as well as I could have...I am not attacking all...but yes I'll stand up and be counted against some...The description 'in a nutshell' you gave of my first post was brilliant! Made me me chuckle.
 
I won't repeat the conversation i had with my not-at-all-ugly farrier about alternative uses for vet wrap then.....
I'm married, hes got the most lovely girl friend and we have some hilariously frank conversations about men, women,sex and such like.
He has even worse ones with my husband!

Same is said for my attractive male instructor and vet.

Men and women can flirt and not want to drop our knickers. I work in a male dominated industry and some of the things that have been said to me over the years are unreal but in most cases if I'd turned round and taken them up on the offer the blokes would have run a mile!
Yes in a small percentage of cases you may get some sex starved loon who fancies doing something more exciting in the haybarn than filling haynets but honestly I'm sure 90% of the time its harmless. And it does take two to tango - unless you're very very quick with the vet wrap...............
 
HAHA that was just like my farrier who I stabled my horse with, he would take me in the woods with the horses and say right I am going to get lost in here with you now, stuff like that, but was soooo harmless!! I just used to tell him to bleep off, he loved it! Infact he spoke to me exactly the same with my husband present, much to everyones amusement, I think some people can just get away with it and you know full well its just light hearted fun!

There is a big difference tho, we were at a party once and this girl who is the local slapper told my husband she had no knickers on, and would he like to feel to prove it!!!! :eek: Now that is a step further!

Yep, now see, THAT'S what I'm talking about!!! The 'step further'...It's one thing to say "Mr Farrier is ******* gorgeous, I've got a crush on him.." but entirely another to say: "I'm goin to get Mr Farrier in bed come Hell or high water, and I don't give a stuff if he's got a woman at home"...there's harmless and there's 'hang-on-a-minute'?
 
I won't repeat the conversation i had with my not-at-all-ugly farrier about alternative uses for vet wrap then.....
I'm married, hes got the most lovely girl friend and we have some hilariously frank conversations about men, women,sex and such like.
He has even worse ones with my husband!

Same is said for my attractive male instructor and vet.

Men and women can flirt and not want to drop our knickers. I work in a male dominated industry and some of the things that have been said to me over the years are unreal but in most cases if I'd turned round and taken them up on the offer the blokes would have run a mile!
Yes in a small percentage of cases you may get some sex starved loon who fancies doing something more exciting in the haybarn than filling haynets but honestly I'm sure 90% of the time its harmless. And it does take two to tango - unless you're very very quick with the vet wrap...............

Youve got me intrigued about this whole vet wrap scenario now...:p
 
OP I have a lot of respect for what you said in your later post - seemed much less aggressive and lighter.

I'm another one who would never cheat. I can't see the point in being with someone if you want to play the field - do what you want when single, but don't hurt other people. When my ex-fiance cheated on me it turned my world upside down, and took a long time for me to trust anyone again. I didn't have many feelings towards the girl, but I was livid at him - he was the one telling lies to my face. I thought that she was a pretty low type. They later married, and although the water is long under the bridge, I know that its highly likely that one of them will get their karma one day - they started their relationship knowing that their OH was a cheater...

As for posting your relationship ups and downs on a forum - very thin ice. Starzan isn't the only young person that posted a lot of info about their lovelife, which made them very easy to identify. Some people put picturesand links to show their OHs, which is lovely if all is well, but when you then start posting about things that they've done wrong, its not fair. Just because you feel that you're among friends on these forums (and to a large extent you are) doesn't mean that everyone is your friend. That said, Starzan's threads were very funny and I didn't ever think that she was throwing herself at someone else's man. Nothing happened until after he split with his girlfriend. My husband was with someone else for a year before we got together. I fancied him, and thought he fancied me too, nothing happened. I used to have similar laughs with my friends - they used to suggest that I took bulbs out of my car's headlights etc for an excuse to go into his garage (I never dared, but it made us laugh thinking about it!). The difference is, they were friends that I really knew.
 
Lesson then....don't broadcast your fantasies about real people all over t'internet:confused: Imagine if his wife read it? If it were me- I would be furious.....

My OH is a very fanciable bit of rough :p he works with mainly women and he is a manager of mainly young women. I don't doubt for one minute that several of them fancy him.....that's fine by me, I fancy him too and I like to think I have good taste....I don't mind banter, but if I thought someone was being over-friendly or they were trying to lead my OH astray I would be pretty pissed. I don't for one minute think he would stray but its the fact that someone - who knows he is married with kids- would even TRY to tempt him. Thats not on really.

Exactly! We can trust our men (some of us, I'm really sad to say!) without having to trust a flirty woman...Just because I trust my husband doesn't mean I automatically trust all women - although, I do, if they behave normally! ...I don't look at women as potential 'cudas...not unless they get fresh...I would LOVE to believe that all women on the face of the Earth wouldn't dream of being a mistress...but I know, plenty, do!...And, as I've ranted, I never want to see another broken woman who was on the receiving end of an affair.
 
HAHA that was just like my farrier who I stabled my horse with, he would take me in the woods with the horses and say right I am going to get lost in here with you now, stuff like that, but was soooo harmless!! I just used to tell him to bleep off, he loved it! Infact he spoke to me exactly the same with my husband present, much to everyones amusement, I think some people can just get away with it and you know full well its just light hearted fun!

There is a big difference tho, we were at a party once and this girl who is the local slapper told my husband she had no knickers on, and would he like to feel to prove it!!!! :eek: Now that is a step further!

urghhhh yuk!! He should have told her 'sorry he didn't have a calfing glove in his pocket'! lol
 
Can i just ask why this has come up now OP?
I'm not wishing to take away from your comments but the whole Starzan thing happened a while ago (unless there have been new postings recently which i've missed). Just wondered why this has been brought up now?
 
I was wondering the same thing, I was thinking where is this thread, that was ages ago and I thought was harmless, can't say I read it all, oh dear if it did actually happen
 
When the 'saga' was going on, and MANY posters seemed to be spurring it along, and I pointed out the fact that the said farrier was indeed attached, I was shot down in flames.

It wasn't because it was a farrier, it was because it was a guy in a relationship, and the poster seemed to be oblivious to this relationship, and others were really quite scathing towards a woman they didn't know....

Bizarre....and I'm glad you posted this, I wanted to say so much more, but there was no point.

We aren't all like it, we have a great farrier who does a great job but that's as far as it goes. We pay him for a service, he does it to a high standard and off he goes again.....

Me? Happily married woman, but if I wasn't, certainly wouldn't be chasing a married man who has 3 kids!
Well you shouldn't have been shot down in flames!...If both parties are single, and their behaviour isn't harming a career rep or anyone else, then there isn't harm caused...but if one of them isn't single, then hello, there's SOMEONE else - an innocent at that! - in that 'picture', and it's not on! And it ISN'T right to broadcast the 'matter' as if there isn't a third party who could get very hurt, involved...so why on Earth is there uproar because a woman, who does have morals, and does care about the girlfriend/wife, pops up and says: "Hang on a second...that bloke isn't single!"...Why attack the women who say; "That isn't right. That isn't fair" and bounce up the flirt who doesn't give a monkey's if the girlfriend or wife read about it? Doesn't make sense to me...But like I said...we all have our opinions, and we're all allowed to air them...I stand on the side of women who speak out for the innocent.
 
I was wondering the same thing, I was thinking where is this thread, that was ages ago and I thought was harmless, can't say I read it all, oh dear if it did actually happen

I've since caught up on other threads, I just think if they're gonna cheat they'll do it doesn't matter who they are
 
urghhhh yuk!! He should have told her 'sorry he didn't have a calfing glove in his pocket'! lol

HAHA he screwed his face up and - "you're alright thanks".. was actually quite affective because she was offended, I just laughed!!!! Was quite shocked actually!!!!!

As regards the Vetwrap and the mentioning of speed, I have horrible images of said male parts wrapped up and pulled off quickly.. uggggggggggg am I far out?? lol
 
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