Ban staffordshire bull terriers? Girl attacked

We should then ban all dogs
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!!I have seen first hand dogs that have had a fantastic upbringing with upmost discipline(knew exactly were they were in the pecking order),and they still raise upper lips to kids!!
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All dogs are unpredictable as our horses,it is in their nature to challenge pecking order from time to time and unfortunately it is the kids that suffer(oh and partners previous to the kids,lol
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however he soon realised he had picked the wrong person to pick on,lol!!!)
I have nothing against dogs whatsoever,however i have made the decision to not have 1 around my kiddy at home!
(i know of alot that would not and never have curled a lip,but it is a risk i choose to keep out of our life)!!
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we were on a yard with a staffy, mad as she was, she never bit anyone and was as soft as butter........

One hour with a collie and this happened.....

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I know which one I will gunn to have destroyed!!!!
 
I sympathise with you sweet,and your poor daughter,i really do,i remember your posts!!!ours did not like kids stroking him,he was happy whilst they were throwing a ball,it was all on his terms,we got rid fortunately before he hurt somebody,tis why i have decided not to have any dog around my little boy,sad i know,but i dont trust any of them to not try have a go,specially when they see weakness!
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you would not believe the amount of collies i have heard about that are soooo against kids!
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We are still trying to get the police to realise that under section 3 of the dangerous dogs act, we can take action...... they just keep quoting section 2... which is only for pitbulls and the other three breeds that are not even in this country
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Section 3 covers any other dog that is dangerously out of control in a public place or in a private place where it has no right to be!!!!

The police are such numpties
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they make the RSPCA look efficient!!!
 
The rules seriously need changing,any dog that has had a taste will do it again
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!!ANY dog that attacks a child unprovoked needs a bullet in my opinion!!police are not interested unless they can give it 3 points and a £60 fine
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,sorry but i believe they have their priorities seriously wrong
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We were just saying the same.... OH got a £60 fine for his tyres being about an inch over a parking space...... did he cause anyone any harm, no....... minor speeding offences carry a fine and points even if you do no one any damage, and there are a multitude of other SINS that you can commit and get fined heavily for.....

But bite through the skin on a kids face and ........ oh never mind here is your dog back.......

Not to mention that he wasnt wearing a tag with a name and address on....... another fineable offence, but hey ho lets not bother...............

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i wouldn't ban the breed as i know of several staff's with wonderful temprements....
i would however, welcome banning the chavs that own them, who are often stupid enough to leave a dog unattended with a young child, and keep "macho" breeds purely for the "street cred" image........

so would you ban ponies because they sometimes kick, bite and chuck kiddies off?????
 
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The rules seriously need changing,any dog that has had a taste will do it again
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!!ANY dog that attacks a child unprovoked needs a bullet in my opinion!!police are not interested unless they can give it 3 points and a £60 fine
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,sorry but i believe they have their priorities seriously wrong
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how can you know that if a dog is left alone with a child that no provocation has taken place??? kids do annoy dogs and if they do then, IMO they deserve to get bitten...
 
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Just be done with it and ban all dogs... I'm sick of standing in dog [****] when out walking and having my kids traipse it through my house.

or failing that maybe everyone should have a compulsory dog [****] smeared in their carpet before being allowed a dog. It would put off the half hearted ones (chavs) and make the supposed 'responsible' ones clean up after their animals.
 
QR- so are people with staffies chavs or is it more generalised than that??
I know a few young people with staffies...who wear a tracksuit but wouldnt say they were half hearted owners or have lacked with dogs discipline. I agree its about ownership.
I dont see the need to ban the breed. I have had one and I have a cross now
 
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The rules seriously need changing,any dog that has had a taste will do it again
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!!ANY dog that attacks a child unprovoked needs a bullet in my opinion!!police are not interested unless they can give it 3 points and a £60 fine
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,sorry but i believe they have their priorities seriously wrong
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how can you know that if a dog is left alone with a child that no provocation has taken place??? kids do annoy dogs and if they do then, IMO they deserve to get bitten...

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Let us see if you have the same opinion if it your child with half of its face missing????
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The rules seriously need changing,any dog that has had a taste will do it again
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!!ANY dog that attacks a child unprovoked needs a bullet in my opinion!!police are not interested unless they can give it 3 points and a £60 fine
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,sorry but i believe they have their priorities seriously wrong
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how can you know that if a dog is left alone with a child that no provocation has taken place??? kids do annoy dogs and if they do then, IMO they deserve to get bitten...

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what a disgusting comment! What about that poor baby who was killed not so long ago?? Did she deserve to die? Comments like that make me sick
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Yes, children DO provoke animals at times, but no child deserves to be mauled.


I bloody well hope you never have children
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I personally think all dog owners and all horses owners should have to be assessed in some way to make sure that they are proficient enough to care for their animals properly and also pay some form of licence fee
 
This is a problem that will never go away..
Its too easy for people just to pick up a dog,BUT there is no denying that you got dogs with a nasty streak,just like humans and other animals,and if they end up in the wrong hands that streak will not be handled properly and we get an aggressive dog.
You can compare all these dog attack with the street violence with all the kids hats going on at the moment, it is never going to go away since you got parents,just like dog owners, that are ignorant and don't tackle the problem when the start to appear.
We can debate and argue until we are blue in our faces.Sadly too many dogs will be destroyed before the have come up with a good solution.
 
Lets not ban certain dogs but 'bad' dog owners.
Terriers are the snappiest of dogs - the smaller the worst. I have not yet met a friendly miniature poodle either.
Little lap dogs are aggressive little devils.
I am terrified of Alsations as i was attacked by one when i was younger - although we did take one in. I would not want Alsations banned but i would like to see them owned by responsible people.
I have only ever known one not 100% stupidly soft Staffie - we took it in a few months ago and will stay with us because of her temperemant, but it was the home she was in that has made her the way she is - or was as she is better now.
It is not fair to blame the dogs. It is owners that need looking at and in many cases banning from keeping dogs.
Of course i realy do feel for the child. So much so i have not read the article as i find things so upsetting.
We have an agressive parrot, should parrots be banned?
 
this is bloody stupid, i have known many staffies and most have been lovely dogs, but some like the ones that live out the back of us are horrible the owner breeds them to support his drug problems and teaches them to behave aggressivly, he has even threatened me with his dogs when i was holding my young son!!!!!!
what the hell was the dog doing near the kids if it had already attacked earlier, pure stupidity!!!!!!!!
 
Staffies are one of only two breeds that states in their breed standard 'good with children' I think they are cracking dogs, but due to type they do require proper handling.

It really is a case of blame the owner, not the breed.
 
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Staffies are one of only two breeds that states in their breed standard 'good with children' I think they are cracking dogs, but due to type they do require proper handling.

It really is a case of blame the owner, not the breed.

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was just about to type the very same, they are even known as 'nany dogs' as they are so good with kids.
if the media would stop hyping these 'dangerous' dogs up then a lot fewer chavs and wannabe hard men would get them, i mean no self respecting muscle head is going to bother with a staffie if they become known for their good temper and loving nature are they!!
children should not be left alone with dogs of any breed or size full stop, animals are unpredictable by nature, bet no one would dream of leaving a small child or baby alone in a stable with a pony!! far to dangerous just think of all the accidents waiting to happen, so why do so many people think it's ok to leave kids and dogs alone together
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The biggest problem lies with the way dogs are kept nowadays.When I was a kid the dog was part of the family.It went everywhere you went and thus learnt how to behave in public and the public learnt how to react with dogs.
Now you can't socialise or take them anywhere or they have to be left in the car and you can't do that in summer.Children have no idea how to approach a dog and a lot of owners have no idea how to handle their dogs (Witness those silly extending leads and harness and the fact that most people including RSPCA kennel people haven't a clue how to handle a dog on a lead or what side to walk it on)
If you had children who were left indoors all day and never taken anywhere they would be nervous and badly behaved too(Hmmm! Come to think of it maybe That's the answer to the badly behaved little b...................
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Poor little soul; I wish her a full and speedy recovery.
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I have to say, I have met a lot of Staffs and every one has been lovely and (from what I have seen) totally non-aggressive, but then I've also mets lots of APTs and none of the ones I've met have been nasty, but real softies.

Realistically, there is nothing anyone can do about irresponsible dog owners, certainly not before an event, such as this, happening
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. No licences in the world can stop bad ownership; that is down to people, and sadly some people have no clue what they are doing...
 
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not ban but licence all dogs. also regulate the breeding of dogs. mke breeders pay for an expensive licence , this would make them think twice. theres jut too many dogs bout and not enough good homes, bit like the horse market really.............

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No it wouldnt because backyard breeders wouldnt pay any attention.
It would end up like horse passports,the good owners pay for them while the bad dont bother and never have any trouble because of it.


I feel so much for th epoor little girl and her family,hope she makes a good recovery and isnt too badly affected by this long term.

As for SBT's,it really is the owner not hte dog.
Yes some will be "born bad" because they are poorly bred and in a bad enviroment from day one,but ones from good breeders are no more dangerous then any other breed.
We have two in our family,both owned by cousins who are definatly NOT chavs
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One works for the Sheffield SS in the child protection department and the other is a wizz with computers who owned his own house outright before he finished uni.
They took the time to find a good breeder for the dog they wanted to buy and then trained them properly.
Computer nut cousin has had 2 children since he got his two SBT's with no issue at all.
Other cousin's children are teens and the dog has been with them since early childhood without one single problem.
Deed not breed springs to mind here- ANY dog could have done this to the little girl,it just happened to be one that the media likes to shout about
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The rules seriously need changing,any dog that has had a taste will do it again
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!!ANY dog that attacks a child unprovoked needs a bullet in my opinion!!police are not interested unless they can give it 3 points and a £60 fine
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,sorry but i believe they have their priorities seriously wrong
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how can you know that if a dog is left alone with a child that no provocation has taken place??? kids do annoy dogs and if they do then, IMO they deserve to get bitten...

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wow bit of a harsh comment there. Would you feel the same if it was a member of your family that had their throat ripped open??

Agree with majority here, its the owners that are at fault. I have known several Staffies/Rotties and each and every one of them never had a bad bone in their body - all down to the way they are bred and bought up.
 
Yes but what about the kids who have done no provoking....like my daughter, who was sat on the lawn minding her own business, when the dog came up to her and set upon her...... did she deserve it too!!!

Yes I do think that if a kid taunts or teases a creature, then it should accept what the consequence is, but not all attacks are provoked by the child.
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I got 2 J.R's and 2 Grey Hounds,i trust them with my life but as i responsible owner i would NEVER leave them alone with other peoples children and the greyhounds wear a muzzle while out walking(they are ex-racers) What we don't see as provoking a sharp dog might,a gestsure with the hand for example,they are at the end of the day an animal and NO animals are bomb proof or safe,they can turn very quickly,and then go back to be the quiet animal !
Dog owners need training and education as much as the dog and an owners license thats only given out after proof of training classes might be a good thing ???
 
Yes BAN them if they attack only PRETTY girls. However, if they are less discerning on the girls attractiveness then who's to deny them a little bit of sport
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All of the staffies I have known have been real softies with people. I wouldn't trust them 100% with other dogs though. It is due to irresponsibe owners who train them to be aggressive. They should be locked up and the keys thrown away.
 
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