Benefit Cheats Nick and Mair Arnold------its OUR money folks!

I totally agree with OP - this type of person should be named and shamed and anyone sticking up for them should feel ashamed!

We are all struggling in the current climate and to think that we are all subsidising people like this makes me very very angry.

They could have paid someone to look after the horses with the money they stole and pocketed it.
 
I do not know them, the point I am making is its this sort of thing that means that when we get our paypacket theres less in it for us to spend on our horses or what ever we want tospend it on,because these benefit cheats are telling lies,receiving money from the government and it us, our money,our taxes which they recieve.
 
It doesn't affect your paypacket, that's a separate issue altogether. Millions of pounds of tax money is wasted in alot of ways included this, but in the scheme of things it's a small proportion of tax that is spent on fraudantly claimed benefits. Maybe stop reading the daily mail to get a wider view of the world and how it works ......
 
bonny said:
It doesn't affect your paypacket, that's a separate issue altogether. Millions of pounds of tax money is wasted in alot of ways included this, but in the scheme of things it's a small proportion of tax that is spent on fraudantly claimed benefits. Maybe stop reading the daily mail to get a wider view of the world and how it works ......
Click to expand...

The lady doth protest too much, me thinks.;)
 
I think maybe Bonny's saying that benefit cheats are small fry compared to corporate tax-dodgers. Which is true. Not that it doesn't stink when people take benefits to which they're not entitled.
So we should also get worked up about Barclays et al, and all those billionaires and big firms who stay off-shore so they don't have to pay tax here.
 
Of course I don't ....but they are not to blame for the state of the country, well maybe a very small part of the problem. There will always be people who defraud the system, whether it's benefit cheats, tax dodgers, MP's, bankers etc etc. I just felt this was a horse forum and not really the place for naming and shaming a couple who have presumably got their comeupance for what they did already. We could fill this forum with similar cases, to what point ?
 
bonny said:
It's a horse forum, not a daily mail forum.[/QUOT

I believe the article was taken from Walesonline. Camerons speech on benefi
ts scams costing the country 5 billion was an exaggeration. But even the 1 billion that is attributed to benefits scams is too much for me. Benefit scams are no different from thieving from your neighbour (a neighbour that works or genuinely requires financial assistance, that is) and just as immoral.
Click to expand...
 
personally I hate the 'name and shame' attitude, no one knows any more than what the press sensationalise. The case has been dealt with - end of!!! the video is shamefull and should NOT be on public display.
 
I think it's absolutely right they are named and shamed, and since they were running a stud then why not on here too?

I can't bear the Daily Mail but passing this off as "small fry" is no excuse - how much does it all add up to when these "small timers" are at it all over the country?

Just ask anyone who rents property out about benefit fraud. Trust me, £1000 is a lot of money when that's how much someone still owes you when they've cheated the system and the landlord has to be the fall guy. Anyone on here want to take £1000 out of their bank account and stuff it down the drain? Thought not.

If it weren't for the benefit cheats costing millions of pounds our taxes/NI would be lower and hence we'd all be better off. I resent every penny that goes to someone cheating the system - it affects everyone, including honest people claiming benefits fairly.

Rant over :p
 
I presume the reason it is on a horse forum is because it is a stud farm the couple are running.

And yes it does suck, no less than bankers bonuses or MPs expenses, IMHO. its fraud, and its money which could have gone to greater public use.
 
Well I just don't see why I should have to go to work to look after myself and my horses when other people can just stay at home !

There used to be a girl on our yard with 7 - yes 7 horses and a wagon and drove a better car than me and her OH had a focus ST ! ! all on benefits, How can this happen ?? I can't even afford petrol some days !!

We also have a mate (loose sense of the word) who gets a brand new car due to his kid being Dyslexic (my OH has severe Dyslexia and his folks never got a car !!!) Doesn't work house paid for etc .... posts on FB every day " Ah what to do today while you losers are all at work!!" GET A JOB!!
 
Ladylina83 said:
Well I just don't see why I should have to go to work to look after myself and my horses when other people can just stay at home !

There used to be a girl on our yard with 7 - yes 7 horses and a wagon and drove a better car than me and her OH had a focus ST ! ! all on benefits, How can this happen ?? I can't even afford petrol some days !!

We also have a mate (loose sense of the word) who gets a brand new car due to his kid being Dyslexic (my OH has severe Dyslexia and his folks never got a car !!!) Doesn't work house paid for etc .... posts on FB every day " Ah what to do today while you losers are all at work!!" GET A JOB!!
Click to expand...

Wow, there is obviously alot of fraud in the system but you don't help any argument by writing such utter tosh as this !
 
There has been a similar story in the DM, Sat I think- About a retired couple who, 4 years ago reported there neighbour who was on the "sick" supposedly couldnt walk, he used to garden, go up ladders play golf etc, wife didnt work, he had a brand new AudiTT. So retired couple saw an ad on TV wanting people to shop know benefit cheats. So they reported them was promised it was in strictest of confidence, then the DSS or whoever dishes this money out wrote to the man and named the elderly retired couple as the ones that shopped him.
So now these two pensioners live in fear of their lives with threats from this benefit cheat.
And they say crime doesnt pay!!!
 
Naturally said:
I presume the reason it is on a horse forum is because it is a stud farm the couple are running.

And yes it does suck, no less than bankers bonuses or MPs expenses, IMHO. its fraud, and its money which could have gone to greater public use.
Click to expand...

Agree Naturally, as it has equine links it is here, it annoys the hell out of me and think they should be punished and made to pay the money back plus interest!!! But agree it's no different to fraudulent (sp?) expense claims from mp's, tax evaders etc, it all adds up to money that should have gone into the general pot, resulting in us, the law abiding tax paying citizens didn't get hammered left right and centre so much!
 
bonny said:
It doesn't affect your paypacket, that's a separate issue altogether. Millions of pounds of tax money is wasted in alot of ways included this, but in the scheme of things it's a small proportion of tax that is spent on fraudantly claimed benefits. Maybe stop reading the daily mail to get a wider view of the world and how it works ......
Click to expand...

Oh that's alright then...let them claim more!!!! Of course it will effect pay packets in the long run.....there are thousands upon thousands of these unscrupulous people about blatantly pocketing money that they have no right to...pushes taxes up even further for those of us who are honest!!!!
 
Ladylina83 said:
We also have a mate (loose sense of the word) who gets a brand new car due to his kid being Dyslexic (my OH has severe Dyslexia and his folks never got a car !!!) Doesn't work house paid for etc .... posts on FB every day " Ah what to do today while you losers are all at work!!" GET A JOB!!
Click to expand...

I presume you mean he claimed Disability Living Allowance mobility componant......he wouldn't get that for dyslexia!!
 
bonny said:
Wow, there is obviously alot of fraud in the system but you don't help any argument by writing such utter tosh as this !
Click to expand...

These are 2 examples of fraud I have experianced in real life not TOSH thanks !In fact just the 1st 2 I could think of ... there are more

And yes it makes me mad, sorry about that. How would you like me to help make it better? I'm a bit busy making a living to pay for the things I want !

I was brought up in a single parent family by a mum with a disability who went to work every day to feed us, we got no help not even a blue badge !



Edit; reading this back I realise I perhaps just look jealous !!
 
Last edited:
Of course they should be named and shamed - anyone who has ever been dealt with in a court will know that they can find coverage of their case in their local newspaper no matter if they've been caught swindling the tax payer or punching the local mayor.

The media have hardly sensationalised this case; it's merely made it on to a daily website because of the absolute contempt the two have shown in running a stud farm whilst claiming to be too ill to move!
 
Quote from the article:
his wife was in the middle bracket and said fatigue and depression meant she slept up to 20 hours a day.

Oi! I feel like that all the fluffing time but I have to get up and go to work :o and I've got an Arab horse so where are my disability living allowance thingys £kerching£?

Maybe if I wore a dress to muck out *rubs chin*
 
Ladylina83 said:
These are 2 examples of fraud I have experianced in real life not TOSH thanks !In fact just the 1st 2 I could think of ... there are more

And yes it makes me mad, sorry about that. How would you like me to help make it better? I'm a bit busy making a living to pay for the things I want !

I was brought up in a single parent family by a mum with a disability who went to work every day to feed us, we got no help not even a blue badge !
Click to expand...

It is tosh and you can't make the system better .....there will always be people who cheat the system in all walks of life.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top