Black stallion - any suggestions

my boy has been mentioned above... he is black (carries the red gene) but has so far only produced a chestnut foal out of a chestnut mare

He has been used on a Dales X mare this year and hers is the first foal due in 2011 (March).

PM me if you need any further info....
 
charliesarmy said:
His stud page "Endhouse Stud" are classing him as Dk Bay/Black??
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Ah, well people have to look for themselves I guess. He's part of a family of horses I've been involved with since the late 60's, and know it's history back to 1939. His grandsire Monsieure Edouarde was a very similar colour though even darker but brown (the muzzle is the key I believe), as is his full-brother an eventer called Rubric. In the 80's I bred a Welsh Part-Bred from the family, by Monsieure Edouarde and he looked black, but wasnt.

I would send a mare to him because he's very talented, and the family have great temperaments. Biased maybe!!
 
2Conker said:
Ah, well people have to look for themselves I guess. He's part of a family of horses I've been involved with since the late 60's, and know it's history back to 1939. His grandsire Monsieure Edouarde was a very similar colour though even darker but brown (the muzzle is the key I believe), as is his full-brother an eventer called Rubric. In the 80's I bred a Welsh Part-Bred from the family, by Monsieure Edouarde and he looked black, but wasnt.

I would send a mare to him because he's very talented, and the family have great temperaments. Biased maybe!!
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Bias...I dont think so he is gorgeous :D..he was on my list when I viewed stallions at EHS..but was swayed by The Humerist but it wasnt to be with my mare she just did'nt take..so used Sirens Missile..and got myself a lovely boy.. But back to Ganton B...if I was thinking of breeding next year he'd be top of the list..has a very reasonable stud fee too, for a very nice horse, and now have the added bonus that he seems to stamp good temperaments :D..do you know anything about filly,colt stats I'd love a filly next :D :D
 
charliesarmy said:
Bias...I dont think so he is gorgeous :D..he was on my list when I viewed stallions at EHS..but was swayed by The Humerist but it wasnt to be with my mare she just did'nt take..so used Sirens Missile..and got myself a lovely boy.. But back to Ganton B...if I was thinking of breeding next year he'd be top of the list..has a very reasonable stud fee too, for a very nice horse, and now have the added bonus that he seems to stamp good temperaments :D..do you know anything about filly,colt stats I'd love a filly next :D :D
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Oh, I'm pleased that you liked him that much, there are two other stallions about from the same family but they're Welsh Part-Bred horses. Do you know, I've no idea about stats for filly/colts. I didnt actually know this was done; I always thought that it was the mare (as with humans) that dictated the sex of the offspring. Anyone else know, I'm a bit behind on this scientifically?
How is your youngster turning out?
 
2Conker said:
I didnt actually know this was done; I always thought that it was the mare (as with humans) that dictated the sex of the offspring. Anyone else know, I'm a bit behind on this scientifically?
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I'm sure with humans, and all mammals, its the male who dictates the sex as the sperm can provide either an x or a y chromosone?
 
Male in mammals provides either Y chromosome or X chromosome - which will determine sex of offspring BUT conditions in female reproductive tact (prob mainly re testosterone levels) may determine which type of sperm is more likely to fertilise the egg!
 
Hollycat said:
Male in mammals provides either Y chromosome or X chromosome - which will determine sex of offspring BUT conditions in female reproductive tact (prob mainly re testosterone levels) may determine which type of sperm is more likely to fertilise the egg!
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That was my understanding, the sperm are both male and female (have to be) but what happens within the female is what finally decides the outcome.
 
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