polyphonic
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the dog was after the horse accident with the flags! well done to the steward who jumped on the dog and shame on the owner! sorry but that could of been a loss of 3 lives!!
Bloody dog at Badminton
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kibob
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I'm a dog lover - have two myself. But for the life of me I cannot understand why people would want to subject their poor dogs to an event like Badminton, especially in this kind of weather. You only have to walk round the trade stands to see how distressed some of the dogs are.
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Couldn't agree more
I'm a dog lover - have two myself. But for the life of me I cannot understand why people would want to subject their poor dogs to an event like Badminton, especially in this kind of weather. You only have to walk round the trade stands to see how distressed some of the dogs are.
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Couldn't agree more
rara007
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Bloody hell, they should have the same rights as farmers and be allowed to kill any dog worrying the animals. Perhaps that'd make people keep their dogs on the leads. They have absolutely no excuse!
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I agree
Bloody hell, they should have the same rights as farmers and be allowed to kill any dog worrying the animals. Perhaps that'd make people keep their dogs on the leads. They have absolutely no excuse!
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I agree
Weezy
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Ridiculous amount of puppies there today, being dragged around
Disgraceful if you ask me.
rara007
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I'm a dog lover - have two myself. But for the life of me I cannot understand why people would want to subject their poor dogs to an event like Badminton, especially in this kind of weather. You only have to walk round the trade stands to see how distressed some of the dogs are.
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Couldn't agree more
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I totaly disagree, it may not be suitable for some dogs, but for mine and many others it is second nature, they have no problem with it and enjoy it
Haz
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I'm a dog lover - have two myself. But for the life of me I cannot understand why people would want to subject their poor dogs to an event like Badminton, especially in this kind of weather. You only have to walk round the trade stands to see how distressed some of the dogs are.
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Couldn't agree more
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I totaly disagree, it may not be suitable for some dogs, but for mine and many others it is second nature, they have no problem with it and enjoy it
Haz
SilverSkye
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So what do you suggest people should do with there dogs when they want to go out for the day?? If i came on here and said i had left my dog at home all day and it hadnt been let out to the toilet for 9 hours youd all scream cruelty.
I accept having a dog is a responsibilty, but they have to fit into your life you cant just never go out or only go out for a couple of hours.
I accept having a dog is a responsibilty, but they have to fit into your life you cant just never go out or only go out for a couple of hours.
Rachel_M
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Well, IMO if you take on the responsibility of owning a dog then you must understand that your life will be effected. If you cannot find suitable care or boarding with a family, friends or kennels then it is more responsible to stay home than it is too take a dog to a huge unsettling event such as Badminton.
Weezy
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Totally agree with H_B.
rara007
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Well, IMO if you take on the responsibility of owning a dog then you must understand that your life will be effected. If you cannot find suitable care or boarding with a family, friends or kennels then it is more responsible to stay home than it is too take a dog to a huge unsettling event such as Badminton.
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There would be alot less dogs (who knows how they would be disposed of) and alot less support of equestrian events, and horse sport needs all the support it can get. NOT a good idea
Haz
Well, IMO if you take on the responsibility of owning a dog then you must understand that your life will be effected. If you cannot find suitable care or boarding with a family, friends or kennels then it is more responsible to stay home than it is too take a dog to a huge unsettling event such as Badminton.
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There would be alot less dogs (who knows how they would be disposed of) and alot less support of equestrian events, and horse sport needs all the support it can get. NOT a good idea
Haz
Jiffy
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All I can say is poor Jonty! Being held up 30 mins on course and then that !
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That reminds me... Does anyone know how Jonty was after he finished X-C he got off the horse looking like he had a lot of pain, but I didn't hear what had caused it.
He's not having a good week as he was taken to hospital after a fall at Withington last Sunday. I hope he's in good shape for tomorrow.
All I can say is poor Jonty! Being held up 30 mins on course and then that !
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That reminds me... Does anyone know how Jonty was after he finished X-C he got off the horse looking like he had a lot of pain, but I didn't hear what had caused it.
He's not having a good week as he was taken to hospital after a fall at Withington last Sunday. I hope he's in good shape for tomorrow.
kibob
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I take my dog with me to many local equestrian events, and that is fine, these events are less crowded and a fantastic way to socialise your dog. However Badminton is so crowded that I feel it is best to leave pouchie in the hands of a trusted friend for the day, of course, there are times when this may not be possible.
What frustrates me, at large events like Badminton, is that people insist on walking their dogs around the busy shopping areas and against the ropes alongside the cross-country course, where, if the worst happens as in todays case, the dog is straight out onto the course where he can potentially put horse/rider and dog at risk.
Rachel_M
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Well, IMO if you take on the responsibility of owning a dog then you must understand that your life will be effected. If you cannot find suitable care or boarding with a family, friends or kennels then it is more responsible to stay home than it is too take a dog to a huge unsettling event such as Badminton.
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There would be a lot less dogs (who knows how they would be disposed of) and a lot less support of equestrian events, and horse sport needs all the support it can get. NOT a good idea
Haz
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I sincerely hope that if you own any animal you wouldn't consider destroying the animal because you couldn't go out to some events. I for one own two dogs and do make choices including them.
I doubt that banning dogs to an event would be that detrimental to the support. Quite a few already have no dog rules and see healthy support.
Having an animal is like having a child- You have to be able to sacrifice some things.
Plus, I am sure that most dog owners are more than capable of going out, making sure that there dogs are properly cared for.
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Well, IMO if you take on the responsibility of owning a dog then you must understand that your life will be effected. If you cannot find suitable care or boarding with a family, friends or kennels then it is more responsible to stay home than it is too take a dog to a huge unsettling event such as Badminton.
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There would be a lot less dogs (who knows how they would be disposed of) and a lot less support of equestrian events, and horse sport needs all the support it can get. NOT a good idea
Haz
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I sincerely hope that if you own any animal you wouldn't consider destroying the animal because you couldn't go out to some events. I for one own two dogs and do make choices including them.
I doubt that banning dogs to an event would be that detrimental to the support. Quite a few already have no dog rules and see healthy support.
Having an animal is like having a child- You have to be able to sacrifice some things.
Plus, I am sure that most dog owners are more than capable of going out, making sure that there dogs are properly cared for.
rara007
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If local events banned dogs competitor numbers would be down as would spectators. I personaly would not do anythoing to my animals but many people have dogs for show at events, sad but true. The cost of going to events is already high many could not afford kennel fees
Haz
Haz
BroadfordQueen
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my dog wasn't affected by the atmosphere at all, infact she seemed to have enjoyed it, and no we didnt take her round the trade stands- we took it in turns to go to the stands and look after the dog by the water fence with a picnic, and she was increadibly happy sitting and watching the horses, her tail was going at 100mph every time a horse went past! so i cant see why taking a dog to sit on a grassy bank and to watch an equine sport is so wrong- she was kept securely on a lead/harness..
Rachel_M
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I would think that I know my dogs well, they wouldn't hurt a fly knowingly however dogs, just like us can behave erratically at any point without as much as a warning.
I am sure that your dogs was well behaved and on a leash but so did the person who's dog escaped.
I for one love my dogs dearly but I can not (and no one can) say that they won't misbehave at least once- that one time could cause an accident.
I am sure that your dogs was well behaved and on a leash but so did the person who's dog escaped.
I for one love my dogs dearly but I can not (and no one can) say that they won't misbehave at least once- that one time could cause an accident.
rara007
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As could horses, children or adults, should they stay at home too???
Haz
Haz
Tia
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Totally agree with you! My dogs are all well behaved and well trained but I would never even consider taking them to Badminton....for a start what a crud day for them being dragged around with all those people!
I personally don't think dogs should be allowed at events such as this.
I personally don't think dogs should be allowed at events such as this.
_jetset_
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I have a three year old English Pointer who came out to Bramham with me when she was four months old. We had quite a drive, my husband was away with work (fiance then) and my trainer was competing. I thought about putting her in the kennels, but decided that she would be better coming with me.
She remained on a lead all day, I took a bottle of water and a collapsable bowl in my bag and she had a great day because everyone kept admiring and petting her... she loves being the centre of attention. She has been brought up around horses and never once barked/walked towards/ran after any of the horses, in fact se stayed glued to my side all day as she always does.
Although I could believe what I was seeing when the little puppy ran after the horse, it was an accident and the only one that I could see that happened (dog wise that is). I don't agree that dogs should be banned as that would make quite a few people unable to attend which would be a real shame because huge crowds are very beneficial for the sport! I know that if dogs were banned from events like this it would make it very difficult for me to go out for a full day (with the length of time spent travelling too) and a lot of the competitors take their dogs with them too.
However, I do think that the owner of the dog should have been heavily fined as it was a very dangerous situation. I think large fines should be instated at all events like this one for dog owners who do not have their dog under control at all times. I am confident in the knowledge that if I take my dog to an event she will not cause any problems whatsoever, and will be under control at all times. However, people should not take their dogs if they do not feel this way.
What worries me is that by banning dogs at events like this it could also lead to a lot more dogs being left in cars and dying from the heat. I am sure we all remember what happened last year at a large event. If they were banned, I am pretty sure there would be a lot more like this sad story.
She remained on a lead all day, I took a bottle of water and a collapsable bowl in my bag and she had a great day because everyone kept admiring and petting her... she loves being the centre of attention. She has been brought up around horses and never once barked/walked towards/ran after any of the horses, in fact se stayed glued to my side all day as she always does.
Although I could believe what I was seeing when the little puppy ran after the horse, it was an accident and the only one that I could see that happened (dog wise that is). I don't agree that dogs should be banned as that would make quite a few people unable to attend which would be a real shame because huge crowds are very beneficial for the sport! I know that if dogs were banned from events like this it would make it very difficult for me to go out for a full day (with the length of time spent travelling too) and a lot of the competitors take their dogs with them too.
However, I do think that the owner of the dog should have been heavily fined as it was a very dangerous situation. I think large fines should be instated at all events like this one for dog owners who do not have their dog under control at all times. I am confident in the knowledge that if I take my dog to an event she will not cause any problems whatsoever, and will be under control at all times. However, people should not take their dogs if they do not feel this way.
What worries me is that by banning dogs at events like this it could also lead to a lot more dogs being left in cars and dying from the heat. I am sure we all remember what happened last year at a large event. If they were banned, I am pretty sure there would be a lot more like this sad story.
rara007
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second becki
Haz
Haz
_jetset_
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Just realised there are quite a few spelling mistakes in there... I apologise but I cannot edit it now.
It should have said, "I couldn't believe what I was seeing", rather than "I could".
It should have said, "I couldn't believe what I was seeing", rather than "I could".
Rachel_M
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Humans, as in us can control ourselves to a degree and understand that chasing a horse is not on
(it would be quite funny to see though).
Horses are there because it is an equine event and therefore they are meant to be there, admittedly whether they behave or not.
Children, now this is a point to consider. Some people do not consider taking children to big events unless they are of a certain age and understand socially acceptable behaviour.
So no, I wouldn't make them stay home but I still think that dogs should not be taken.
Horses are there because it is an equine event and therefore they are meant to be there, admittedly whether they behave or not.
Children, now this is a point to consider. Some people do not consider taking children to big events unless they are of a certain age and understand socially acceptable behaviour.
So no, I wouldn't make them stay home but I still think that dogs should not be taken.
rara007
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This does sound a bit stupid but people at the beer tents at big eventdo not seem to have much control of them selves
Haz
Haz
pixie
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mmm, I think both dogs and children should be on a lead at such events..
helpplease
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To be honest I felt more sorry for some of the young babies there today, strapped on to their parents' backs and going round the course. I don't have kids, but I would have thought that surely babies are too young to appreciate such an event?
It's a long a tiring day for adults, let alone small children.
As for dogs, I personally wouldn't take one with me - but I did see lots of happy well behaved dogs there today, and none that looked miserable.
It's a long a tiring day for adults, let alone small children.
As for dogs, I personally wouldn't take one with me - but I did see lots of happy well behaved dogs there today, and none that looked miserable.
RLF
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i have been chased around a xc comp by a loose dog and its no fun. I think the owners should be banned from Badminton.
Baggybreeches
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So what do you suggest people should do with there dogs when they want to go out for the day?? If i came on here and said i had left my dog at home all day and it hadnt been let out to the toilet for 9 hours youd all scream cruelty.
I accept having a dog is a responsibilty, but they have to fit into your life you cant just never go out or only go out for a couple of hours.
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My 3 dogs are all left at home, whilst I am at work, sometimes this is for 8 or 9 hours, 2 are kept in a crate with food and water, and the old man is left to roam the house. So I would suggest that it isnt going to cause anybody any hardship to leave their dog on its own, they would probably get a bit of kip!
My mum and I were absolutely heart broken about the horse before, but Jonty did so well under the circumstances.
I hope he has a good SJ round tomorrow.
Good Luck Jonty!
So what do you suggest people should do with there dogs when they want to go out for the day?? If i came on here and said i had left my dog at home all day and it hadnt been let out to the toilet for 9 hours youd all scream cruelty.
I accept having a dog is a responsibilty, but they have to fit into your life you cant just never go out or only go out for a couple of hours.
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My 3 dogs are all left at home, whilst I am at work, sometimes this is for 8 or 9 hours, 2 are kept in a crate with food and water, and the old man is left to roam the house. So I would suggest that it isnt going to cause anybody any hardship to leave their dog on its own, they would probably get a bit of kip!
My mum and I were absolutely heart broken about the horse before, but Jonty did so well under the circumstances.
I hope he has a good SJ round tomorrow.
Good Luck Jonty!
Christmas_Kate
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To be honest I felt more sorry for some of the young babies there today, strapped on to their parents' backs and going round the course. I don't have kids, but I would have thought that surely babies are too young to appreciate such an event?
It's a long a tiring day for adults, let alone small children.
As for dogs, I personally wouldn't take one with me - but I did see lots of happy well behaved dogs there today, and none that looked miserable.
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Personally I wouldnt take a young young child to an event like this. I've been to big shows where competitors have had tiny babies in the lorry living area, strapped into buggies by the ramp, trying to struggle childcare and competing. To me that just seems like fruitless effort, when you could get MIL to stay at home with baby. A toddler would find the day exhausting though, but could sleep in the car etc.
I am currently umming and ahhing over wether to take an older child to a big similar event. Will he get bored? Mess about? would he get tired? I don't know. Hopefully we'll go to a few shows over the summer and i can test the water.
But as regards dogs.... what Huggy Bear said.... I agree with her!
To be honest I felt more sorry for some of the young babies there today, strapped on to their parents' backs and going round the course. I don't have kids, but I would have thought that surely babies are too young to appreciate such an event?
It's a long a tiring day for adults, let alone small children.
As for dogs, I personally wouldn't take one with me - but I did see lots of happy well behaved dogs there today, and none that looked miserable.
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Personally I wouldnt take a young young child to an event like this. I've been to big shows where competitors have had tiny babies in the lorry living area, strapped into buggies by the ramp, trying to struggle childcare and competing. To me that just seems like fruitless effort, when you could get MIL to stay at home with baby. A toddler would find the day exhausting though, but could sleep in the car etc.
I am currently umming and ahhing over wether to take an older child to a big similar event. Will he get bored? Mess about? would he get tired? I don't know. Hopefully we'll go to a few shows over the summer and i can test the water.
But as regards dogs.... what Huggy Bear said.... I agree with her!
weevil
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Not to mention the Staffie that attacked my friends Border terrier - and then bit my friend quite badly on the hand when she tried to get it off.
If you cannot control your dog in situations like this then you should not bring it.
If you cannot control your dog in situations like this then you should not bring it.
Baggybreeches
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If local events banned dogs competitor numbers would be down as would spectators. I personaly would not do anythoing to my animals but many people have dogs for show at events, sad but true. The cost of going to events is already high many could not afford kennel fees
Haz
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Would you take your dog to the FA Cup Final?
No, I thought not!
This is not just a day out for us mere mortals, it is the event riders livelihood and raison d'etre. Why should some muppet without the wit to keep their dog under control be able to spoil, our sport's showpiece?
If local events banned dogs competitor numbers would be down as would spectators. I personaly would not do anythoing to my animals but many people have dogs for show at events, sad but true. The cost of going to events is already high many could not afford kennel fees
Haz
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Would you take your dog to the FA Cup Final?
No, I thought not!
This is not just a day out for us mere mortals, it is the event riders livelihood and raison d'etre. Why should some muppet without the wit to keep their dog under control be able to spoil, our sport's showpiece?
Rachel_M
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Fatarse2, good and true point.