Simsar
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Remind me of the theory EK. x
Boots, tops, garter straps, spurs, spur staps
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EAST KENT
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Now ,now..not on a public forum!! PD or Rosie know it.
rosie fronfelen
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What am i supposed to know,whether JM is a thruster or what? He could be- but perhaps i am on the wrong track, usually am!!
oswaldwedmore
New User
THIS IS WRONG
the coat referred to is not correctly called 'pink' this is a common misconception! the traditional coat is scarlet in colour, people think they're called pink coats because they were mainly made by Thomas Pink, the tailor, hence, 'Pink's' coats
Bernster
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What a fabulously entertaining thread - thank you!
And JM, your posts never fail to amuse - and I am hoping that they are occasionally intended to do so
For what it's worth, I started out making a fairly poor, but well intended, effort at correct attire. My first outing was in a show jacket and ready tied stock. The jacket got ditched pretty damn quick as I half froze and I am now a dab hand at stock tying. As for the rest, I am working on it !
But seriously, I found people very welcoming. I found my local hunt website very helpful in terms of what to wear and no-one has pulled me up on my attire. But maybe they are just being polite
And JM, your posts never fail to amuse - and I am hoping that they are occasionally intended to do so
For what it's worth, I started out making a fairly poor, but well intended, effort at correct attire. My first outing was in a show jacket and ready tied stock. The jacket got ditched pretty damn quick as I half froze and I am now a dab hand at stock tying. As for the rest, I am working on it !
But seriously, I found people very welcoming. I found my local hunt website very helpful in terms of what to wear and no-one has pulled me up on my attire. But maybe they are just being polite
Judgemental
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What a fabulously entertaining thread - thank you!
And JM, your posts never fail to amuse - and I am hoping that they are occasionally intended to do so
For what it's worth, I started out making a fairly poor, but well intended, effort at correct attire. My first outing was in a show jacket and ready tied stock. The jacket got ditched pretty damn quick as I half froze and I am now a dab hand at stock tying. As for the rest, I am working on it !
But seriously, I found people very welcoming. I found my local hunt website very helpful in terms of what to wear and no-one has pulled me up on my attire. But maybe they are just being polite
BernsterBuables, oh yes indeed I hope they are firstly instructive and yes, amuse.
This thread was started on 25 October 2010 and it appears to be rather like a good cheese or wine, the longer it is kept the better it tastes.
bob
Member
I would take issue about the statement that mahogany topped boots can not be worn with a black coat. This is simply not true, you are confusing a coat with a jacket. Traditionally, farmers, tradesmen and dealers wore black jackets with 'Butcher' boots, ie without tops, gentlemen , members of the hunt, and visitors could, and did, wear mahogany topped boots, usually dependant weather. I hunted very many seasons with the Quorn, preferring a black coat on muddy days to save the task of cleaning my scarlet one. This was general practice, I have many photographs to prove it!
Hairy Old Cob
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No Doubt "etiquet" may not be what it once was does it really Matter, in this day and age, I would say Get out to the Hunt and enjoy yourselves, as once you are covered in mud who can see or care.
To my Knowledge David Brown Tractors were painted Hunting Pink before they changed to Orchid White, and Gentlemen out Hunting wore SCARLET Coats not Pink, Farmers wore a Black Coat, younger women wore a Navy Jacket, Older women wore a Black Coat, Children wore a Tweed Jacket, or though as an older Youth the last season I Hunted mounted, I wore a tweed Coat.
I really Get fed up with Pedantic WA***** Just get out there and ENJOY YOURSELVES and who reallt gives a SH** any way except PW`S.
Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year.
To my Knowledge David Brown Tractors were painted Hunting Pink before they changed to Orchid White, and Gentlemen out Hunting wore SCARLET Coats not Pink, Farmers wore a Black Coat, younger women wore a Navy Jacket, Older women wore a Black Coat, Children wore a Tweed Jacket, or though as an older Youth the last season I Hunted mounted, I wore a tweed Coat.
I really Get fed up with Pedantic WA***** Just get out there and ENJOY YOURSELVES and who reallt gives a SH** any way except PW`S.
Wishing you all a very Merry Christmas and a Prosperous New Year.
Judgemental
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I have to suggest that Oswald has been in something of a time-warp, because this thread actually ceased in December last year, i.e when the 'last post' was sounded/made. Everything that was said last year has been repeated in the last 24 hours!
I cannot help noticing that Oswald is a foal and only just joined this December and one assumes he/she has not seen the originating date of the thread and the last posting LAST YEAR.
was sounded/made. Everything that was said last year has been repeated in the last 24 hours!I cannot help noticing that Oswald is a foal and only just joined this December and one assumes he/she has not seen the originating date of the thread and the last posting LAST YEAR.
TwoPair
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It has been commented on in the past by masters and followers that I am always immaculately turned out. Judgemental you would want to cull us all I should think.
I (at the time) hunted in a tweed jacket, either a stock or pony club tie, and a waistcoat. I wore fawn breeches, and black boots, with a zip up the back and laces in the front of the ankle - an absolute sin with tweed. I wore a crash hat with a black silk, a hairnet with my hair in a bun, and a scrunchie to maintain the shape and tidiness. I wore black or brown gloves.
I now hunt in a tweed jacket, stock, waistcoat, fawn breeches, brown boots, black gloves and a blue silk. Hair still the same. My brown boots are zip up back with laced front - in fact, they are these - http://www.naylors.com/media/catalo...l_boot_waxed_chocolate_non_insulated_9736.jpg I have the insulated version. I have had two bouts of surgery on one foot and there are seven pins remaining in the foot. Cold feet are really not a pleasant experience. I do not like the restriction of multiple pairs of socks / tights, so insulated boots were the best option. My horse is always always plaited unless for cubbing, obviously.
I do not feel I hunt enough to warrant wearing navy (something I feel looks better on women than black. My tailcoat for eventing is navy.) despite being 20 next year. You would be horrified probably to hear that one of our lady masters hunts in navy, with a hard hat (flesh coloured harness), and, woe betide her, she wears a body protector underneath her jacket. I think she is a sensible lady in all honesty - my bodyprotector is not suitable for hunting, and I feel more able to hold on in a sticky situation without it, but I think if it makes her feel better, and it sets a good example for our 'young thrusters', then she is well within her right to! In the current time with the ban and what not, I think the hunting community should be pulling together and welcoming newcomers, not making them feel belittled because the 'old school' don't think what they are wearing is correct.
God forbid what you'd have said about my (novice) partners choice of dress on Thursday for his first ever day. However, everyone looked out for him, including the huntsman, secretary and master, and he had a whale of a time, and cannot wait to go again. Surely THAT is what it is about?
I (at the time) hunted in a tweed jacket, either a stock or pony club tie, and a waistcoat. I wore fawn breeches, and black boots, with a zip up the back and laces in the front of the ankle - an absolute sin with tweed. I wore a crash hat with a black silk, a hairnet with my hair in a bun, and a scrunchie to maintain the shape and tidiness. I wore black or brown gloves.
I now hunt in a tweed jacket, stock, waistcoat, fawn breeches, brown boots, black gloves and a blue silk. Hair still the same. My brown boots are zip up back with laced front - in fact, they are these - http://www.naylors.com/media/catalo...l_boot_waxed_chocolate_non_insulated_9736.jpg I have the insulated version. I have had two bouts of surgery on one foot and there are seven pins remaining in the foot. Cold feet are really not a pleasant experience. I do not like the restriction of multiple pairs of socks / tights, so insulated boots were the best option. My horse is always always plaited unless for cubbing, obviously.
I do not feel I hunt enough to warrant wearing navy (something I feel looks better on women than black. My tailcoat for eventing is navy.) despite being 20 next year. You would be horrified probably to hear that one of our lady masters hunts in navy, with a hard hat (flesh coloured harness), and, woe betide her, she wears a body protector underneath her jacket. I think she is a sensible lady in all honesty - my bodyprotector is not suitable for hunting, and I feel more able to hold on in a sticky situation without it, but I think if it makes her feel better, and it sets a good example for our 'young thrusters', then she is well within her right to! In the current time with the ban and what not, I think the hunting community should be pulling together and welcoming newcomers, not making them feel belittled because the 'old school' don't think what they are wearing is correct.
God forbid what you'd have said about my (novice) partners choice of dress on Thursday for his first ever day. However, everyone looked out for him, including the huntsman, secretary and master, and he had a whale of a time, and cannot wait to go again. Surely THAT is what it is about?
Judgemental
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I quite agree, indeed on 26 November 2010 TWO THOUSAND AND TEN which was more or less my last post on this thread I said:
"When I started this thread as long ago as 10 October 2010, I certainly did not think that the subject would generate much interest, indeed I felt it was a fairly dry subject.
Some very firmly held views have been expressed on just about every combination of acceptable kit that should or should not be worn, has been aired.
Hopefully, bearing in mind the intention was to help those new to hunting, they have gathered useful tips and opinions, also possibly by those not so new to hunting as well".
So why has it been ressurected, to 'Fog' the issue of the Liveries and Christmas Day thread perhaps?
TwoPair
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I did not resurrect, just simply posted on a resurrected thread I was not around to post on originally
Beggin' your pardon, sir *doffs cap*
Beggin' your pardon, sir *doffs cap*
little_critter
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Crikey - I was seriously contemplating taking my mare hunting to perk her up and regain her interest. I've never been hunting and neither has she.
The posts by JM have totally put me off. I'm not going to go if I'm going to be sneered at.
I was going to turn up as neatly turned out as possible in blue tweed, fawn breeches, blue velvet on a skull cap and black chaps (sans spurs). Not 'correct' I know but tidy.
There is no way I'm going to fork out hundreds of pounds on kit I might never use again (for all I know we might both hate it).
As someone said - clubs are usually accommodating to new members; you're not expected to turn up for the first time at football practice already possessing their full team home and away kits so why is it expected of first time hunters?
Oh - and before JM starts the whole 'but you're not a new user of the forum - why only pop up now'. I'm not new to riding, I have started some posts and replied to quite a few, hunting has only crossed my mind recently as my mare appears to be getting bored and I think she needs a fun day out to perk her up.
Might have to think of something else now.......
The posts by JM have totally put me off. I'm not going to go if I'm going to be sneered at.
I was going to turn up as neatly turned out as possible in blue tweed, fawn breeches, blue velvet on a skull cap and black chaps (sans spurs). Not 'correct' I know but tidy.
There is no way I'm going to fork out hundreds of pounds on kit I might never use again (for all I know we might both hate it).
As someone said - clubs are usually accommodating to new members; you're not expected to turn up for the first time at football practice already possessing their full team home and away kits so why is it expected of first time hunters?
Oh - and before JM starts the whole 'but you're not a new user of the forum - why only pop up now'. I'm not new to riding, I have started some posts and replied to quite a few, hunting has only crossed my mind recently as my mare appears to be getting bored and I think she needs a fun day out to perk her up.
Might have to think of something else now.......
Herne
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Critter, if you want to try hunting, just give the local Hunt Secretary a call and dicuss with him/her what s/he thinks you should wear. It won't be onerous, don't worry.
As for most of the other postings on this thread, you can ignore them. Pretty much the only hard and fast rule about correct hunting dress is that there are no hard and fast rules about hunting dress - other than the pretty much universal guideline that one must be clean and tidy and smart.
Otherwise, the dress codes for hunting change between hunts and between types of hunting and between areas.
Lots of hunts have different traditions about who should wear red coats, who should have the ribbons on their riding cap down, who should wear top boots and all sorts of things. Local traditions take precedence over national trends every time.
And, of course, as has been discussed at length elsewhere on these forums many times, hunting kit has evolved and changed many times over the centuries and will continue to do so.
Historical Note: Garter staps are only really appropriate with top boots. The reason being that top boots themselves were invented to simulate the wearing of the even more old-fashioned "Bucket Top" or thigh-length boots.
In the days of bucket-tops, if you were wealthy, you would have the insides of the boots lined with soft leather, whilst the outsides were made of tougher, hard-wearing leather. When one was not needing the full-length protection of the bucket-top, one would therefore fold the tops down to reveal the softer leather - old-fashioned hunting bling, if you like.
However, the weight of the bucket top would cause the boot to ride down the calf, unless given the extra support at mid-level of a garter strap.
So, that is the reason that the "tops" were added to top boots (in tan, cream, black or other colours) - to simulate the look of an expensive pair of bucket tops that had been turned down for show. The garter strap was added to complete the "deception".
Normal calf-length boots, on the other hand, don't need them and never did.
As for most of the other postings on this thread, you can ignore them. Pretty much the only hard and fast rule about correct hunting dress is that there are no hard and fast rules about hunting dress - other than the pretty much universal guideline that one must be clean and tidy and smart.
Otherwise, the dress codes for hunting change between hunts and between types of hunting and between areas.
Lots of hunts have different traditions about who should wear red coats, who should have the ribbons on their riding cap down, who should wear top boots and all sorts of things. Local traditions take precedence over national trends every time.
And, of course, as has been discussed at length elsewhere on these forums many times, hunting kit has evolved and changed many times over the centuries and will continue to do so.
Historical Note: Garter staps are only really appropriate with top boots. The reason being that top boots themselves were invented to simulate the wearing of the even more old-fashioned "Bucket Top" or thigh-length boots.
In the days of bucket-tops, if you were wealthy, you would have the insides of the boots lined with soft leather, whilst the outsides were made of tougher, hard-wearing leather. When one was not needing the full-length protection of the bucket-top, one would therefore fold the tops down to reveal the softer leather - old-fashioned hunting bling, if you like.
However, the weight of the bucket top would cause the boot to ride down the calf, unless given the extra support at mid-level of a garter strap.
So, that is the reason that the "tops" were added to top boots (in tan, cream, black or other colours) - to simulate the look of an expensive pair of bucket tops that had been turned down for show. The garter strap was added to complete the "deception".
Normal calf-length boots, on the other hand, don't need them and never did.
SusannaF
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A little story for Judge Mental.
I don't know if you have read the classic 1930s hunting book, To Whom the Goddess, but I believe that's where I came across this story.
One of the authors recalled a lady who joined their hunt (and it was one of the grand ones) whose turnout was shocking, and they all looked askance but said nothing.
Later this woman turned out to be a stalwart supporter in the hunt's time of need, and they were all very glad not to have alienated her merely because of her appearance.
Fashions in dress DO change, as others have pointed out - God knows, HUNTING has changed (otherwise you be out chucking spears at Przewalski horses and painting up the results on your cave wall) - but good grace and good manners are timeless. And not always indicated by dress.
I don't know if you have read the classic 1930s hunting book, To Whom the Goddess, but I believe that's where I came across this story.
One of the authors recalled a lady who joined their hunt (and it was one of the grand ones) whose turnout was shocking, and they all looked askance but said nothing.
Later this woman turned out to be a stalwart supporter in the hunt's time of need, and they were all very glad not to have alienated her merely because of her appearance.
Fashions in dress DO change, as others have pointed out - God knows, HUNTING has changed (otherwise you be out chucking spears at Przewalski horses and painting up the results on your cave wall) - but good grace and good manners are timeless. And not always indicated by dress.
Vicki1986
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I find it interesting that debates on the correct dress for hunting often turn into conversations with several people claiming they now do not wish to go for fear of snobbery, being looked down on etc.
In the show ring , dressage or jumping ring (low level) if I see someone incorrectly dressed I think nothing of it... Why would you fork out much money for a day trip? As long as you try your bed to conform and be smart, good luck to you. However, if I see someone out constantly wrongly dressed, then I think it's not good for the future of the discipline to disregard its heritage.
If more and more people didn't dress correctly, the traditions of the discipline wou,d be lost.
Why should this be different for hunting?
I have done a few days with several local hunts. Prior to each meet I have called the sec to check for any dress code I should be aware of.
Therein, I would wear my own jacket, or beg one from a friend - and for the rest of my attire I would try my best. Yes my boots were not correct, but they were always polished to perfection, and I should expect that without close inspection, not many of the field were any the wiser.
There are always many threads online asking for dress guides for hunts, yet often when it is given in such detail as OP it is blasted as out-dated, and unwelcoming. If you can't afford to uphold traditional hunting dress (I know I can't) that is ok, (goes without saying you should try your best with what you've got) but I think it is diluting the discipline to suggest that it is not necessary to keep the heritage going.
Sadly I am not currently hunting, however my partner is a farmer who hosts several meets a year. I find it very interesting whilst I am duly handing round stirrup cups to see what people are wearing. Although always smart, I would say that most of the field I have seen hunting here are not 100% traditionally dressed, however they are 'correct' so unless you are nit picking most would not notice.
I also, (typing with some trepidation as I don't think this will come out well...) Think that etiquette and dress, too a degree, separates the people you want to hunt with and those you don't. I thoroughly enjoy spending the day with like minding people, from different areas and situatons, whom all have the respect to scrub their horse up and put some elbow grease into their tack in order to spend the day crossing land you wouldn't usually have the chance to do. I can't think of anything worse than having a cavalier person who can't be bothered to at least try to conform.
No I am not a snob, I just think some things in life deserve a bit of respect and pride.
In the show ring , dressage or jumping ring (low level) if I see someone incorrectly dressed I think nothing of it... Why would you fork out much money for a day trip? As long as you try your bed to conform and be smart, good luck to you. However, if I see someone out constantly wrongly dressed, then I think it's not good for the future of the discipline to disregard its heritage.
If more and more people didn't dress correctly, the traditions of the discipline wou,d be lost.
Why should this be different for hunting?
I have done a few days with several local hunts. Prior to each meet I have called the sec to check for any dress code I should be aware of.
Therein, I would wear my own jacket, or beg one from a friend - and for the rest of my attire I would try my best. Yes my boots were not correct, but they were always polished to perfection, and I should expect that without close inspection, not many of the field were any the wiser.
There are always many threads online asking for dress guides for hunts, yet often when it is given in such detail as OP it is blasted as out-dated, and unwelcoming. If you can't afford to uphold traditional hunting dress (I know I can't) that is ok, (goes without saying you should try your best with what you've got) but I think it is diluting the discipline to suggest that it is not necessary to keep the heritage going.
Sadly I am not currently hunting, however my partner is a farmer who hosts several meets a year. I find it very interesting whilst I am duly handing round stirrup cups to see what people are wearing. Although always smart, I would say that most of the field I have seen hunting here are not 100% traditionally dressed, however they are 'correct' so unless you are nit picking most would not notice.
I also, (typing with some trepidation as I don't think this will come out well...) Think that etiquette and dress, too a degree, separates the people you want to hunt with and those you don't. I thoroughly enjoy spending the day with like minding people, from different areas and situatons, whom all have the respect to scrub their horse up and put some elbow grease into their tack in order to spend the day crossing land you wouldn't usually have the chance to do. I can't think of anything worse than having a cavalier person who can't be bothered to at least try to conform.
No I am not a snob, I just think some things in life deserve a bit of respect and pride.
Starbucks
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TBH people I really wouldn't worry!! A lot of the "posh" looking guys in my hunt seem to wear tweed (I assume post ban), but with a white stock and plaited, which isn't "correct". One of which is Lord something or other and was in Thruster of the week in H&H! Patent tops for ladies are a new one on me too.
As long as you look clean and smart, it doesn't really matter IMO.
As long as you look clean and smart, it doesn't really matter IMO.
orangebadger
Member
This has all got a bit silly!
Correct dress: there is a pretty set code for the perfect turnout, but it's expensive, to say the least.
The Point: We make an effort with turnout as a gesture of respect to our hosts: the landowners and farmers. A lot of it is practical (warm, dry and safe being the object), but it's by NO MEANS compulsory for a newcomer. My big prestigious west country hunt would welcome with open arms a newcomer if they had made an effort (ie clean and tidy). I would think that after their first season of cobbling it together, they should probably think of investing in the right kit if they were going to carry on.
A good coat (nowadays black for men and blue for ladies) will keep you warm and dry. Despite recent winters, mine has never leaked!
Good boots will protect your legs. I am sure I would have had even more breakages than I have already if I hadnt been wearing strong boots. And yes they are Davies, but they should last me for ever.
Hat: after several awful accidents, one at a neighbouring pack, most are now wearing velvet crash hats. Again, practical considerations!
Please please don't get the impression that we are unwelcoming and dogmatic. It's the opposite - we love seeing new faces and new blood. One of the best rules of hunting behaviour that I was told is that every hunting day you should talk to 2 people who you have never met. Hopefully that speaks volumes.
As to the pedants: top boots are fine with black coats. (proper) Hunting boots should be worn with garter straps, white for tops, black for plain. Spurs yes, but dummies are fine. It's a hunting tie, not a stock!
If you've never hunted, start by coming autumn hunting. It's much calmer, little jumping, and a very good chance to get to meet your fellow hunters, as there is a lot of standing around!!
Anyway, come and have a go, and you will be VERY welcome. If you make the effort it will be rewarded in spades - there's nothing as exciting as hunting!
Correct dress: there is a pretty set code for the perfect turnout, but it's expensive, to say the least.
The Point: We make an effort with turnout as a gesture of respect to our hosts: the landowners and farmers. A lot of it is practical (warm, dry and safe being the object), but it's by NO MEANS compulsory for a newcomer. My big prestigious west country hunt would welcome with open arms a newcomer if they had made an effort (ie clean and tidy). I would think that after their first season of cobbling it together, they should probably think of investing in the right kit if they were going to carry on.
A good coat (nowadays black for men and blue for ladies) will keep you warm and dry. Despite recent winters, mine has never leaked!
Good boots will protect your legs. I am sure I would have had even more breakages than I have already if I hadnt been wearing strong boots. And yes they are Davies, but they should last me for ever.
Hat: after several awful accidents, one at a neighbouring pack, most are now wearing velvet crash hats. Again, practical considerations!
Please please don't get the impression that we are unwelcoming and dogmatic. It's the opposite - we love seeing new faces and new blood. One of the best rules of hunting behaviour that I was told is that every hunting day you should talk to 2 people who you have never met. Hopefully that speaks volumes.
As to the pedants: top boots are fine with black coats. (proper) Hunting boots should be worn with garter straps, white for tops, black for plain. Spurs yes, but dummies are fine. It's a hunting tie, not a stock!
If you've never hunted, start by coming autumn hunting. It's much calmer, little jumping, and a very good chance to get to meet your fellow hunters, as there is a lot of standing around!!
Anyway, come and have a go, and you will be VERY welcome. If you make the effort it will be rewarded in spades - there's nothing as exciting as hunting!
chesnutty
Well-Known Member
What about Bye-days? Is tweed worn then or is it still the black/navy coat?
orangebadger
Member
um, re Bye-days I have no idea - we never seem to have them!! I can't imagine why the rules should be any different though. If in doubt, ring the secretary - they are normally extremely helpful!
Whatever, HAVE FUN!
Whatever, HAVE FUN!
palo1
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Oh how I wish I was a child again. In those days, drag pony out of field & groom as good as possible. Some kind soul would have previously clipped her for me. Messy, rather fumbled plaits or not depending on time and motivation. Jods, jodhpur boots, shirt, tie and tweed jacket. Not a single worry about how we looked and away we went, always having a wonderful time and everyone either lovely and kind or just pleasantly ignoring us. Now as an adult I have avoided hunting for years - somehow aware of the subtleties of dress and etiquette and living in fear of 'doing something wrong'. Horse has too crap a mane to plait, my feet don't like hunting boots (don't wear them enough) and tweed, which I love and find very correct and polite, is not posh enough. Don't want to spend the best part of £1000 on proper well made boots and jacket to enjoy re-living this fantastic childhood pleasure for a few days every year. Work does not allow for more. My horse would be frankly astonished, not to mention a little cross if I wore and even mistakenly applied spurs for he is a polite, well schooled and co-operative chap. I would be personally mortified for not being able to present my lovely, capable horse as required and I really don't need patronising by a load of people who simply have time and care to know and apply arcane rules to something which is supposed, these days, to be for the wider pleasure of the equestrian community. I am happy to say that my husband who is a hill farmer's son, was welcomed by a local master, provided with a horse and enjoyed a fantastic week day's hunt in nothing better than his working boots, jeans and a working coat. I shuddered at the prospect but it's nice to think that for some it is possible!! I have to say, of course, that his horse was impeccably turned out. (not by him). For me, turnout is the deal-breaker; I don't think we can do it 'properly' and my immediately local hunt would make it clear that anything less than proper would be a disappointment. I know that from experience as I had 'the treatment' when my 6 year old daughter gave it a whirl. After a 4.30 am start with a hairy, elderly but keen pony and a rather basic tweed, jods, boots, tied up hair, gloves and a brilliant smile we still failed to make the grade. Hunting aint what I remember it to be sadly.
Herne
Well-Known Member
Welcome to the Forums, Orangebadger.
However...
Then why did you jump in and resurrect a thread that had been dormant for over two years?
When you obviously haven't even bothered to read the whole of the thread before commenting.
Especially, when you then say in your next post:
Which demonstrates pretty conclusively that you do not actually consider yourself to be an expert on the subject.
I refer you to my post just 4 above yours - which, in summary points out that there are no hard-and-fast rules. Traditions vary between hunts, between types of hunting and between regions.
What is right in one hunt can easily be wrong in another - and what is right in a hundred hunts can just as easily be wrong in the 101st.
Not wishing to be unwelcoming on your third post in the forum- one hopes you come here and have fun.
However, it is only polite to read what others have already contributed to a thread before commenting. Just stating an opinion that is contrary to preceding messages without referring to them doesn't actually add to the conversation.
You are most welcome to tell me why I am talking rubbish if you think I am - but you should then say why...?
However...
Then why did you jump in and resurrect a thread that had been dormant for over two years?
When you obviously haven't even bothered to read the whole of the thread before commenting.
Especially, when you then say in your next post:
Which demonstrates pretty conclusively that you do not actually consider yourself to be an expert on the subject.
I refer you to my post just 4 above yours - which, in summary points out that there are no hard-and-fast rules. Traditions vary between hunts, between types of hunting and between regions.
What is right in one hunt can easily be wrong in another - and what is right in a hundred hunts can just as easily be wrong in the 101st.
Not wishing to be unwelcoming on your third post in the forum- one hopes you come here and have fun.
However, it is only polite to read what others have already contributed to a thread before commenting. Just stating an opinion that is contrary to preceding messages without referring to them doesn't actually add to the conversation.
You are most welcome to tell me why I am talking rubbish if you think I am - but you should then say why...?
Judgemental
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Good grief, I started this thread on 25 October 2010 and its still running with 201 replies and 23773 views.
Clearly one or two issues needed airing and Herne you are still in full cry. Clearly a hound with stamina and good confirmation.
.Clearly one or two issues needed airing and Herne you are still in full cry. Clearly a hound with stamina and good confirmation.
Herne
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I am almost as stubborn as you are, JM
Did you not see my reply to you in the UKIP thread, or are you ignoring it?
Did you not see my reply to you in the UKIP thread, or are you ignoring it?