Brats at Olympic Dressage

Nah said:
I see so many poorly behaved kids at work (Co-Op). They stuff them with sweets to shut them up, it's terrible! There's about 5 parents that I recognise because of their poor parenting, their kids are going to be ruined.
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Yes, it has always saddened me when I saw children being rewarded for poor behaviour, ust to get them to shut up - makes the worsse for next time :rolleyes:

YorksG said:
You could have expected my late mother to correct bad/poor parenting absolutely anywhere :eek: She was an infants teacher, for many years and would stop any badly behaved child in its tracks, often ignoring the parents :D No child ever continued with the bad behaviour after my mother had spoken :eek: :D :D
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:eek: My mum has been the same :D If you're anything like me, you have inherited certain characteristics, like the look and a willingness to tell children (of all ages :p) to behave. When I worked at a pooside cafe the kids in the pool could be playing merry hell and their parents nowhere to be seen, public complaining to me, expecting the bar staff to do something about them. So, well I did. Only it got to the point where kids were looking to see if I was on shift, before deciding how to behave. :o :o :o
 
AprilBlossom said:
Pearlsasinger, my example was more to point out that even the best behaved children WILL have their moments (I was very well brought up and my mum is a teacher so knows how to handle kids...) - children, like horses, can't be expected to behave exactly as you'd like 100% of the time - but in a way I agree, it shouldn't have to come to stranger intervention as often as I see examples these days. Not the blanket 'one should never observe a child stepping out of line in public' which is highly unrealistic IMO.
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I don't think anybody is saying no child should ever missbehave. I have the greatest of sympathy for anyone whose child is determined to missbehave if I can see they are trying their hardest to resolve the situation nicely.
 
I was surprised at how many really young kids/babies were at the Olympics - realise parents want to catch the games just as much as others, but can't imagine it was much fun being out in the sun/rain for hours, with the crowds, queues etc etc. I don't think I would have braved it!
 
Jenni_ said:
As for professional riders and children- if they can do it anyone can! I remember grooming for a show jumper as a favour once, she walked her SJ Course with baby on her hip giving him a bottle. I was walking her horse about to stretch him off whilst baby was in carrier in the lorry door- she was off doing whatever so and baby got grizzly so out he came onto my hip for a wee walk round with the horse.
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That's fine and commendable imo and not affecting anyone else's enjoyment of an event.
I doubt you will find a competitor who would allow their bored or noisy child to sit in the audience whilst they were competing and others trying to watch.;) Apart from anything it is unfair on the poor child imo.
 
ebonyallen said:
Suelin said:
When my kids were young I didn't care if they were bored. They would behave or wind with a carefully aimed smack. My youngest misbehaved once in a public place and his father whispered in his ear. He sat bolt upright and never moved or murmured until he was told he could. I think he was threatened with me!!!

Leather 'em!! That's what I say!!![/QUOT

LUV THIS!

Spare the rod, spoil the child as they used to say.

A lot of kids have no respect for anything or anyone these days. My nieces and nephews used to call me Aunty Dragon behind my back but have since told me that they now realise it was good for them!
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Ibblebibble said:
i find it sad that in this country babies and children are seen as such a nuisance and the tolerance levels towards them are so low, in the rest of europe they are welcomed and catered for which makes taking them places so much easier.
what about the professional riders with children that take them to events, perhaps those riders should have sacrificed their careers and just stayed home playing mum?!
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IME that's because some parents to British children are so awfully wet when it comes to parenting. Whilst on holiday there were indeed foreign children everywhere but they were polite and quiet, enjoying themselves but not in an obnoxious way.
The only poorly behaved family we saw was a British one. :rolleyes:
 
Agree with ibblebibble & April blossom re kids going to stuff. I'm a single mum with no family & only busy friends, where I go, she goes. If we had got cheap tickets my friend & I would have gone to the eventing with our two pony mad girls. Both of whom have more understanding than some adults, & would have been speechless with admiration for their hero worshipped pros. However as friends husband wouldn't have been able to miss work, her uninterested son would have had to go. No doubt he would have stuff to amuse him, as for other pony stuff. But he would have tried talking, fidgeting etc. Just as his sister does when she is forced to watch for his interests. However our two daughters have just as much right to be there.
 
littlelegs said:
However as friends husband wouldn't have been able to miss work, her uninterested son would have had to go. No doubt he would have stuff to amuse him, as for other pony stuff. But he would have tried talking, fidgeting etc.
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But then I doubt you would have then sat him as far away as possible from you and ignore his behaviour if it have started to deteriorate.
 
littlelegs said:
And I don't actually judge on what the child does, all kids have bad days, even without underlying causes. I tend to judge on what the parent does/says about it!
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Exactly! Kids shouldn't have to parent themselves.

We get a fair few kids barging past my two year old daughter when we go swimming - she looks at me horrified because she doesn't know what she's done to deserve being shoved (I try to intercept them but sometimes they appear from nowhere), but it's not really the kids' faults...it's their gormless and inconsiderate parents. So easy to spot the good parents who intervene, apologise to us and explain to their own child why they shouldn't do x, and those parents who look right through you or aren't even watching their kids.
 
pookie said:
Exactly! Kids shouldn't have to parent themselves.

We get a fair few kids barging past my two year old daughter when we go swimming - she looks at me horrified because she doesn't know what she's done to deserve being shoved (I try to intercept them but sometimes they appear from nowhere), but it's not really the kids' faults...it's their gormless and inconsiderate parents. So easy to spot the good parents who intervene, apologise to us and explain to their own child why they shouldn't do x, and those parents who look right through you or aren't even watching their kids.
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Very good point. I don't think I've ever seen a naturally bratty child, just extremely poor parenting. Some kids were running about at work, and they nearly knocked my manager over (who is HUGE, you can't miss him) who was carrying 2 boxes of expensive (expensive for the Co-Op) wine. He only just managed to keep the boxes from falling and smashing. What did the parents do? Giggled and rolled their eyes. Manager asked the parents to keep their kids under control for everyone's safety, they huffed and collected their kids, who were running around again within 2mins, knocking stuff off the shelves and screaming. No attempt at disciplined or control! Poor parenting.

On the other hand, I've seen a kid break something after running about. The parent apologised to us, explained to the child what they did wrong and since the parent now had to pay for the item, the child would have to do an extra chore to 'work off the debt'. Good parenting.
 
piebaldsparkle said:
I'll refer you to my original post, where I clearly have not tarred the delightful and beautifully children in front with the same brush.;)
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wasn't suggesting you were, just talking randomly / in ref to some other posters' comments :)

AprilBlossom said:
I do think it is a real shame a large proportion of parents these days can't (or won't) discipline their children, preferring to blame a 'medical condition' for their behavior, and worse still, going beserk at anyone who dare suggest to said child that they pack in their naughty behaviour ;)
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Absolutely - I have the greatest sympathy for kids with issues, and their parents, when they're trying to resolve a situation sensibly. It's parents who seem to think am medical diagnosis is an excuse for a child to behave as awfully as it likes without repercussion who really make me angry.
 
how old were these kids? i have a 8 yr old and a 2 yr old, the 8 yr old is generally well behaved in public and polite (holding doors open etc) occassionally he gets a little excited and starts fidgeting, playing around a bit but he is always told under no uncertain terms that its not acceptable, in fact im probably too strict at times. however, the 2 yr old is currently beastly and has regular tantrums in public where he throws himself on the floor/scream,etc, we always try to distract him. yes that is sometimes with sweets or a toy BUT at th time it is much less disruptive to the public and i know it makes it harder nex time but what do you do? let the child tantrum (no amount of telling off works, he just screams louder) or diffuse the situation with whatever method you can at the time? you moan about how disruptive it is but then also moan when the child is given sweets etc.... unless you have been in that situation yourself (it is VERY embarrassing and hard) then truly you have no idea!

quite often, we have had no childcare so they have had to go wherever we go, and its tough, they need to learn to behave whereever they are but like somebody said, if they became loud/disruptive, we would take them for a walk until they settld, so yes we quite often miss half of what we go to see but thats kids for you!

i find it really sad reading this, such low tolerance of children, yes i understand what you man when you say the parents that allow there children to continue but i dont think its fair to be so horrible to those poor parents doing what they can to diffuse a situation at the time, even if it means giving sweets etc, we are not all supernanny!!
 
piebaldsparkle said:
Doh my mistake. Am now getting more irritated, by my on/off satellite signal............grrrr don't even have anyone to glare at!:rolleyes:
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Re-reading my comment I can easily see how you might think I was digging at you, so completely shared culpability :D

Throw something at the tv. That always makes me feel better. Or watch online?
 
Brats anywhere are a pain.

I was at the X-Country on Monday trying to take a picture o th drop fence. I had been there for about 10 minutes when 2 kids pushed their way in front and as th riders came through their arms into the air, each time I had a lovely picture of arms not horses.

My own kids would hav been told to behave and ask politely if they could move in front.

Small children get bored quickly and some events are not the place to take them.

If any kid kept kicking my chair I would say something. It is bad manners and parents should control them.
 
My SIL has the child from hell. He is non-stop. Never takes no for an answer, argues with EVERYTHING and generally is a PIA. He is 5. She employs the naughty step method of parenting and trying to reason with the little darling. Doesn't seem to be working. He is a chore to take anywhere in public.

Puts me off kids for life! Then again my BIL has two wonderfully behaved kids. One 'look' from their mother and they are good as gold!
 
bikerchickone said:
I think it's pretty clear when a child is being a brat and when there's an issue like autism for instance. I've seen both and don't think I'd get them confused.
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Not necessarily. My son never flapped or twitched and he doesn't have a stamp on his forehead saying, "Defective." :D Although there were times when I wish he did so that people wouldn't have been so unkind.

He was freaking out in the street once and I had a woman march up to him and tell him Father Christmas wouldn't come :( Thanks for making things worse, lady :rolleyes:.

When things were at their worst, we didn't want to leave the house with him. It wasn't him - it was how other people would look at us if he did freak out.

He is a very calm and well adjusted teenager now BTW and has a very good shot at a 'normal' life. :)
 
Oberon- I think some people are judgemental of everybody, with whatever excuse they can think up. Because I was divorced whilst pregnant, & looked younger than I was, I have had busybodies comment on how suprised they are that a young single mum had a well behaved child. But I do realise autism is harder, if I see an older child having a toddler type tantrum, I only judge if the parent is encouraging it with futile comments.
 
Many years ago my then 3yr old son decided to throw the whole laying on the floor kicking and flailing tantrum in Tesco's. I quietly told him to stop it or I would leave him there. He carried on so I walked away. A woman glared at me and told me I was a bad mother and walked up to my son and asked him why his nasty mummy had left him. He stopped in mid tantrum, got up, walked to me and quietly followed me around for the rest of the shopping. Two other mothers with children gave me a silent round of applause and smiled at me. In the queue to pay I was told that they wished more mothers were like me.

He never did anything like it again :)
 
Clannad48 said:
Many years ago my then 3yr old son decided to throw the whole laying on the floor kicking and flailing tantrum in Tesco's. I quietly told him to stop it or I would leave him there. He carried on so I walked away. A woman glared at me and told me I was a bad mother and walked up to my son and asked him why his nasty mummy had left him. He stopped in mid tantrum, got up, walked to me and quietly followed me around for the rest of the shopping. Two other mothers with children gave me a silent round of applause and smiled at me. In the queue to pay I was told that they wished more mothers were like me.

He never did anything like it again :)
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Best way :)

Same as training a dog to recall - don't leave the pack or you'll die :D
 
There was another one whingeing throughout Charlotte's test again today!! Or maybe that was one of the German team :D

Generally I like kids but it somewhat takes away the pure pleasure of such a moment when some kid is booing the whole way through!!
 
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