Brecon sales Saturday

If warranted they have to be free of sweet itch and vices and if sold as a riding horse have to be good in traffic. You have two days after purchase in which to return if horse isn't as described. I don't know about specific arthritic conditions like navicular but if the horse is sold as sound and isn't then it can be returned so I expect this would cover kissing spines etc id it's warranted rideable but starts bucking rearing or is lame ir can be returned within the two days.
 
Miss_Millie said:
Thank you for explaining. Are there any guarantees health-wise for buyers? Buying privately, most people would have a horse at least 2 stage vetted. What if you bought a horse with something severe like kissing spines and it was not disclosed?
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It varies! Vices and particular health issues must be declared or the sale is void: you have that protection. You absolutely can request a vetting but you would need to make sure the on site vet was able to complete that in a timely way. You may need to book that in advance or request a different vet to attend to do that. A 5 stage would not be possible. Ridden horses can usually be tried in a simple way under saddle too - you used to even be able to pop a crosspole! Usually the owner would ride first. If you have a particular horse in mind and the seller agrees, there is quite a lot that you can see; loading, tacking up, getting on etc. I have seen some very open sellers with the horse accompanied by many photos, rosettes etc.

However, you are bound by time and the seller's willingness. Some people will view a horse at home before a sale if a sale is not agreed at home. I would not buy a ridden horse at a sale unless I knew it but I would buy a youngster/I started horse. It can be stressful for them but it is over in one day. A private sale may involve lots of strangers and different ways of handling etc.
 
I could be tempted by a dinky black ID mares to matchy dinky black fell mare 😆 I guess a lot of hill breeders and farmers would rather deal with the sales than the stress that is private viewings.
 
Cloball said:
I guess a lot of hill breeders and farmers would rather deal with the sales than the stress that is private viewings.
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You get used to buying and selling at auctions if it's part of your day job. It's a really fair way of getting/paying the market price. You have to be quick at making decisions that's all. I can certainly see the attraction for a seller. Cuts out the joy riders and ditherers!
 
I've never been to Brecon - too far away. Do a lot of the buyers and sellers know each other?

I'm thinking of the sheep auction I was at Tuesday just gone. I'd say I knew 90% of the faces there, even if I couldn't put a name to some of them.

We sold a pen of young breeding sheep. The buyer had already been to our place to see them 2 weeks ago & spent a good long time looking at them & talking to us. We know her well. The only point of the auction was it's a fairer way of fixing the price than haggling.

We bought some weaned lambs at the same auction. We hadn't seen those particular lambs before, we just made a fast decision because the auctioneer was faltering at a price we liked, but we know the man who bred them, know what he usually produces, have had lunch at his farm before when we were having a look at some calves he was selling.

Sorry, long post :rolleyes: but would a private buyer there for the first time be in the minority at Brecon? I'm just interested.
 
Goldie's mum said:
I've never been to Brecon - too far away. Do a lot of the buyers and sellers know each other?

I'm thinking of the sheep auction I was at Tuesday just gone. I'd say I knew 90% of the faces there, even if I couldn't put a name to some of them.

We sold a pen of young breeding sheep. The buyer had already been to our place to see them 2 weeks ago & spent a good long time looking at them & talking to us. We know her well. The only point of the auction was it's a fairer way of fixing the price than haggling.

We bought some weaned lambs at the same auction. We hadn't seen those particular lambs before, we just made a fast decision because the auctioneer was faltering at a price we liked, but we know the man who bred them, know what he usually produces, have had lunch at his farm before when we were having a look at some calves he was selling.

Sorry, long post :rolleyes: but would a private buyer there for the first time be in the minority at Brecon? I'm just interested.
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Brecon is quite familiar to me and the buyers vary! There are regular dealers who are respectable and well known as well as locals who, because of distances to travel would rather buy or sell at Brecon: it is convenient and well run with some decent stock being sold there. It feels a very normal way to buy or sell a horse in these parts tbh, in part because it's so rural, and time et c to travel to view horses would be lengthy.

I would buy from Brecon but would prefer to buy a youngster or know the horse beforehand but that's just me: I'm not interested in already started horses. Culturally, because Wales is pretty agricultural, an auction feels entirely normal and without some of the negative connotations that might accompany that method of buying and selling elsewhere. In my experience, genuine sellers take pride in selling so publicly - their friends and neighbours will see exactly what the stock has made et c and that actually can feel a bit more open than a private sale which might be viewed as potentially trying to conceal something! I know lots of people who have bought horses at Brecon and it doesn't seem any more risky than any other way of buying a horse.
 
palo1 said:
It feels a very normal way to buy or sell a horse in these parts tbh, in part because it's so rural, and time et c to travel to view horses would be lengthy.

In my experience, genuine sellers take pride in selling so publicly - their friends and neighbours will see exactly what the stock has made et c and that actually can feel a bit more open than a private sale which might be viewed as potentially trying to conceal something!
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There's probably a social aspect too, is there? I know if I sold sheep privately the response would be that I'd been a bit anti-social. Everyone putting the lots in fuels the sale & for people who live in remote places the day is important. I had a sore throat Tuesday because it's a noisy environment & you say (shout!) "how are you" , "lovely weather" , "what do you think of the trade", "did you get your hay in" a hundred times over the day!
 
Goldie's mum said:
There's probably a social aspect too, is there? I know if I sold sheep privately the response would be that I'd been a bit anti-social. Everyone putting the lots in fuels the sale & for people who live in remote places the day is important. I had a sore throat Tuesday because it's a noisy environment & you say (shout!) "how are you" , "lovely weather" , "what do you think of the trade", "did you get your hay in" a hundred times over the day!
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Absolutely! Auction days are wonderfully social in an informal way and it's often lovely to see people who you might not have time to chat to at other times. I usually take a day off to go to take our cattle to market; they are my OHs pride and joy and it is lovely to see them go to good buyers. We have a good breakfast before the sale with chance to catch up with friends and acquaintances and it is a good day out. Horse sales have a different atmosphere but the same applies re: being social and it is always interesting.
 
Gosh there are some lovely horses in the sale today 😳 Be interesting to see what they make. Don’t remember seeing so many quality looking horses before…do you think people are having a clear out before winter??
 
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