can i have a cc of my girlie/showing welsh d

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shes a 10 yo, welsh d, 14.2hh, she hasn't done much as she has been used as a broodmare, do you think she would show or not? a girl at my yard who has welshs doesnt think she is good enough but my instructor thinks she is. she does have a big white patch on her tummy not sure if that matters or not?
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She's a good strong build. Not a 'flashy' type pf cob but has a good body. i think if she has a better top line. looses a bit of the stomach. pull the end of her tail (dont be seen in a welsh cob class with a cut tail, its suicide lol) and trim under her chin she will defo be in with a chance.
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Reason i ask....forgive me if i am wrong as i havnt had alot of dealings with welshies,but she looks more like a shire/clyde cross??lovely all the same just what i see!
 
If you asked me to guess her breed I wouldn't have said welsh D, maybe crossbred but not pure.

The best way to tell is maybe try it locally and see what judges think, I don't know what the situation is re white patches on belly.

If she was mine and I wanted to show her I would be tempted to hog and trim and show her as a cob instead. My boy itsn't a very typey/showy welsh and if I wanted to show more I might consider trying him as more of a cob than a welsh
 
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I was thinking a bit of clydie too hadfos.

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phew,lol....i didnt want to speak out of turn but thats what i saw,but the head/white patch and full white leg swung it for me!Nice ned and will probably do well in a cob class as you say hogged and muscled up!
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well now she looks much more welshie if you showed me that before I guessed!

thanks for the ped, how come mum was a C when both her parents were Ds? anyway that is irrelevant, def no clydie, it is the white markings!

Her head is not particularly typey for a welsh on what is liked at the moment but with movement like that she might be well liked locally, you are going to have to run fast though!

I'd say give it a go and see how you get on!
 
Wow that is a nice trot,get her doing that under saddle and you will be well away
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My apologies,as her pedigree does say welsh cob,but would it say welsh section d if that is what she is??I only ask as i said above i have never looked at a welshies breeding so wouldnt recognise any of the names
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My admit that I can't really see her in a Welsh D class, however I must also concede that I have seen horses shown as D's who look absolutely NOTHING like D's.

By the breed standards her head I'm afraid would be classed as a bit too 'plain' (and I don't mean that nastily, I think she looks lovely!). To be shown as a D she'd need more mane and I agree with cilsane to get her tail so it doesn't look levelled off at the bottom.

Re the colour I know someone who has shown their D successfully who has a very similar patch on the stomach.

Could definately see her hogged, trimmed up, muscled up and in a cob class! She looks like a real sweetie.
 
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well now she looks much more welshie if you showed me that before I guessed!

thanks for the ped, how come mum was a C when both her parents were Ds? anyway that is irrelevant, def no clydie, it is the white markings!

Her head is not particularly typey for a welsh on what is liked at the moment but with movement like that she might be well liked locally, you are going to have to run fast though!

I'd say give it a go and see how you get on!

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pmsl...snap...not many clydes can move like that
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,agree with you on the showing thing too
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Wow that is a nice trot,get her doing that under saddle and you will be well away
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My apologies,as her pedigree does say welsh cob,but would it say welsh section d if that is what she is??I only ask as i said above i have never looked at a welshies breeding so wouldnt recognise any of the names
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she appears to be a C+D cross but her mum's parents were both D's so not sure how mum was a C.

frank has a few C's back in his pedigree. but she is def a welsh cob
 
If she jumps you could try M&M workers, the impression I have (which may be totally wrong, those in the know what do you think?) is you can get away with something a little less typey in those classes as they are judged a bit more on performance. The best thing you can do is give it a whirl and see how the judges recieve her. I don't know much about Welsh's but her trot looks great Good Luck!

 
walrus, yes Frank does much better in workers. but then they are less wowed by a welsh trot. Also think she would look better in a wide flat hunter noseband, like on Frank in my sig as he has quite a bit of white. Although it is correct to show mares in hand in a white halter think you could use a bridle locally.

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Wow that is a nice trot,get her doing that under saddle and you will be well away
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My apologies,as her pedigree does say welsh cob,but would it say welsh section d if that is what she is??I only ask as i said above i have never looked at a welshies breeding so wouldnt recognise any of the names
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she appears to be a C+D cross but her mum's parents were both D's so not sure how mum was a C.

Now i am confused,lmao
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Think i will stick to my TB's
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walrus, yes Frank does much better in workers. but then they are less wowed by a welsh trot. Also think she would look better in a wide flat hunter noseband, like on Frank in my sig as he has quite a bit of white. Although it is correct to show mares in hand in a white halter think you could use a bridle locally.

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I am welsh dim,but would have spotted him as welsh a mile off
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he is lurvely btw
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and i like tb's,lol!!
 
that bridle she is wearing was just something i had lying in my tackroom, i have just been using it to get her started under saddle, she has been fab to break although she has a bit of a stubborn streak and has a huge buck if she doesnt want to play
 
ah thanks hadfos, pic taken tonight. he looks more welsh cos he is standing like one (he doesn't very often- mum out of pic had grass!) he is my do everything pone.

mum could have been a C if she was too short for a D I think

Normally locally (though it always changes- one v bad show recently) he would be placed below anything that goes county but above anything local

We do very well workers as he is keen but quite mannerly (I say quite, have to be careful not to go too near the jumps in ind show as he has a tendency to lock on!)
 
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that bridle she is wearing was just something i had lying in my tackroom, i have just been using it to get her started under saddle, she has been fab to break although she has a bit of a stubborn streak and has a huge buck if she doesnt want to play

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Sounds familiar! The Welsh D I ride has such an innocent face but he can throw in some delightful monster bucks when he has a toddler style tantrum (at the age of 8
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lol....sounds like a star
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,jumping machine if he locks on like that
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I know what ya mean though,they tend to go for the dished face look dont they??
 
twisteddiamond just trying to come up with some useful suggestions to get her looking her best! I would also discreetly trim her jowl and chin, I missed that you were only just backing her!

more fine heads in hand than ridden I think, frank and genie are old fashioned types!

http://www.welshwelshcobs.co.uk/

royal welsh this year

lol at jumping machine- when he wants to, and there is a certain technique to getting him at his best he can be a bit spooky welsh with fillers but good day will jump anything!
 
You will need to tidy the mane and get rid of the banged tail!! Muscle her up, put a plain broad, flat noseband and lose the coloured browband, go and have a bash, but you may struggle in welsh classes above local.....hogging and trimming for cob classes may be her forte.
this is my welsh D, as you can see he is not very typey so doesn't do very well as a D, the judges seem to prefer the lighter type.....have a go and see what happens!!
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Can i ask...Do those cobs that are show quality suffer with dodgy backs when they get older???surely those show cobs cant carry any substanial amount of weight for long periods of time over yrs and yrs
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,only ask(lol)as stood in the ring their backs are dipped to the point of being what you wouldnt touch in a normal riding horse with a bargepole???I am learning soo much here:)
Thankyou to you welshie owners for putting up with my idot questions
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the judges seem to prefer the lighter type.....

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Not all judges! Genie's a more traditional heavier D and we've had a fab season this year.
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I'm not that much of a fan of the 'light' D's myself lol.
 
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